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Anonymous wrote:No because our grocery stores are filled with “food” that is loaded with chemicals and preservatives that destroy peoples gut health. And because for many overeating and obesity are symptomatic of greater issues that diet itself cannot resolve.

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This is reality. I wonder how the Pharm. D lol poster would explain the obesity rate in US tripling over the last 50 years. I'm sure there is newly discovered ailment responsible for the increase lmao

It's just insane that you are labeled a fat shamer if you point out that most people are obese because they fail to change their diet and exercise habits.

It’s not so much that you are a fat shaker. It’s just that you are extremely ignorant.

Please take responsibility for your health instead of looking for quick fixes. Some people are mentally stronger and more disciplined than others, so YMMV.

No thanks. I’m going to continue taking Ozempic. And I’m on Medicaid—so thank you specifically, taxpayer, for footing the bill!!

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Anonymous wrote:Why are these threads in "diet and exercise" when they have nothing to do with either? Move it to health, or maybe beauty.

Were you born stupid or just dropped on your head as a baby or something?

Maybe you should exercise for weight loss, since you clearly have a lot of pent up anger?

That isn’t anger, toots. That’s putting someone in their place. Big difference.

Oh sweetheart, the drugs may help you get the weight off, but at some point you're going to have to address the underlying issues that caused you to get obese in the first place. Those aren't going to go away just because you lost some lbs with drugs.

Not very pleasant, but true.

Oh sweetheart, every major medical professional association recognizes obesity as a disease with a very strong genetic component. I'm very sorry it doesn't fit your narrative that it's just too much McDonald's.

It is a disease, but somehow it has dramatically increased in the population in the last 50 years. There is more to that than genetics. But treating the root cause is complicated.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic how those who always said d it’s a moral/mental failing to be fat are now faced with a physiological treatment/cure refuse to acknowledge that indicates it’s primarily a physiological/genetic predisposition.

It isn’t moral. But it is discipline. No one absolutely has to overeat unless they take drugs

Their natural brain chemistry is the “drug”

It isn’t fentanyl. No one is going through DTs if they skip McDonalds or stop at one scoop of ice cream.

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Anonymous wrote:No because our grocery stores are filled with “food” that is loaded with chemicals and preservatives that destroy peoples gut health. And because for many overeating and obesity are symptomatic of greater issues that diet itself cannot resolve.

+1

This is reality. I wonder how the Pharm. D lol poster would explain the obesity rate in US tripling over the last 50 years. I'm sure there is newly discovered ailment responsible for the increase lmao

It's just insane that you are labeled a fat shamer if you point out that most people are obese because they fail to change their diet and exercise habits.

It’s not so much that you are a fat shaker. It’s just that you are extremely ignorant.

Please take responsibility for your health instead of looking for quick fixes. Some people are mentally stronger and more disciplined than others, so YMMV.

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Anonymous wrote:No because our grocery stores are filled with “food” that is loaded with chemicals and preservatives that destroy peoples gut health. And because for many overeating and obesity are symptomatic of greater issues that diet itself cannot resolve.

+1

This is reality. I wonder how the Pharm. D lol poster would explain the obesity rate in US tripling over the last 50 years. I'm sure there is newly discovered ailment responsible for the increase lmao

It's just insane that you are labeled a fat shamer if you point out that most people are obese because they fail to change their diet and exercise habits.

It’s not so much that you are a fat shaker. It’s just that you are extremely ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic how those who always said d it’s a moral/mental failing to be fat are now faced with a physiological treatment/cure refuse to acknowledge that indicates it’s primarily a physiological/genetic predisposition.

It isn’t moral. But it is discipline. No one absolutely has to overeat unless they take drugs

Their natural brain chemistry is the “drug”

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Anonymous wrote:Why are these threads in "diet and exercise" when they have nothing to do with either? Move it to health, or maybe beauty.

Were you born stupid or just dropped on your head as a baby or something?

Maybe you should exercise for weight loss, since you clearly have a lot of pent up anger?

That isn’t anger, toots. That’s putting someone in their place. Big difference.

Oh sweetheart, the drugs may help you get the weight off, but at some point you're going to have to address the underlying issues that caused you to get obese in the first place. Those aren't going to go away just because you lost some lbs with drugs.

Not very pleasant, but true.

Oh sweetheart, every major medical professional association recognizes obesity as a disease with a very strong genetic component. I'm very sorry it doesn't fit your narrative that it's just too much McDonald's.

Anonymous wrote:No because our grocery stores are filled with “food” that is loaded with chemicals and preservatives that destroy peoples gut health. And because for many overeating and obesity are symptomatic of greater issues that diet itself cannot resolve.

It is also filled with plenty of other foods that are perfectly heathy. I do agree that over eating is often a
symptom of something else going on. But just as it won’t provide a solution to those issues, it also doesn’t need to be the only coping mechanism either. People can learn healthier habits to cope with their problems

Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic how those who always said d it’s a moral/mental failing to be fat are now faced with a physiological treatment/cure refuse to acknowledge that indicates it’s primarily a physiological/genetic predisposition.

It isn’t moral. But it is discipline. No one absolutely has to overeat unless they take drugs

Anonymous wrote:No because our grocery stores are filled with “food” that is loaded with chemicals and preservatives that destroy peoples gut health. And because for many overeating and obesity are symptomatic of greater issues that diet itself cannot resolve.

+1

This is reality. I wonder how the Pharm. D lol poster would explain the obesity rate in US tripling over the last 50 years. I'm sure there is newly discovered ailment responsible for the increase lmao

It's just insane that you are labeled a fat shamer if you point out that most people are obese because they fail to change their diet and exercise habits.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are these threads in "diet and exercise" when they have nothing to do with either? Move it to health, or maybe beauty.

Were you born stupid or just dropped on your head as a baby or something?

Maybe you should exercise for weight loss, since you clearly have a lot of pent up anger?

That isn’t anger, toots. That’s putting someone in their place. Big difference.

Oh sweetheart, the drugs may help you get the weight off, but at some point you're going to have to address the underlying issues that caused you to get obese in the first place. Those aren't going to go away just because you lost some lbs with drugs.

Not very pleasant, but true.

? The underlying issue for most obese people is insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome. The Ozempic does address the underlying issues. That’s why they work so well.

It's more complicated that IR and metabolics. I'm taking semaglutide and my mental difference is boggling - I'm assuming because I'm finally reacting to insulin as a normal person does. But once I stop, if I don't relearn some behaviors, I won't keep the weight off. Food is so complicated. The pp might be coarse and making comments out of hatred rather than from a helpful place, but they're not totally wrong. I need to figure out why my brain wants the warm hug from a bag of potato chips and address it, or I'll need to stay on semaglutide forever.

Right, you’re supposed to stay on it forever. It only treats the underlying issues while you’re taking it. This is not shocking or scandalous. I plan to be on it for life.

Hmm, that's interesting. I look at medication as a way to overcome an illness, not as a way to live with an illness. Maybe I need to rethink that, as I know there are some meds people take forever to exist. But never have any docs said to me "you'll do this for life", and I never assumed I would. Are other doctors prescribing this as a lifetime treatment?

That’s not a very smart way of looking at it. Type 1 diabetics, for example. You think they should just use a little insulin to overcome their total and complete lack of insulin and then… see how they do?

I said I needed to rethink it, geesh, no need for all the rude comments! I literally have not heard this is a lifetime drug - I'm willing to rethink that if that's the way it's being prescribed though.

Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic how those who always said d it’s a moral/mental failing to be fat are now faced with a physiological treatment/cure refuse to acknowledge that indicates it’s primarily a physiological/genetic predisposition.

I know, right. I am on Ozempic and in order to lose any significant amount of weight I have to eat fewer calories and exercise, but it's making it possible to lose the weight instead of an insurmountable task. I guess all of those experts just have to put their $.2 without having the first clue about how those meds actually work.

It’s ironic how those who always said d it’s a moral/mental failing to be fat are now faced with a physiological treatment/cure refuse to acknowledge that indicates it’s primarily a physiological/genetic predisposition.

No one grows to be 100+ lbs overweight on a regular 1500 calorie diet (or whatever is reasonable for their age/height). It isn’t a metabolic disorder that causes obesity. It is chronic overeating for years and years. Then the metabolic issues come as the fat cells accumulate. Yes it is near impossible to lose a very large amount of weight and keep it off because the calorie deficit has to be very large and sustained for a very very long time. And your brain just doesn’t want to do that. So…these drugs help the brain come to terms with eating a lot less. But if you ever want to come off them, yes you do need to be able to overcome the urge to overeat. I’m glad there is something to help people, but I highly doubt this will move the needle much on obesity. Since those at highest risk are those who don’t/can’t see their Dr regularly or pay for medical costs associated with them

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Anonymous wrote:Why are these threads in "diet and exercise" when they have nothing to do with either? Move it to health, or maybe beauty.

Were you born stupid or just dropped on your head as a baby or something?

Maybe you should exercise for weight loss, since you clearly have a lot of pent up anger?

That isn’t anger, toots. That’s putting someone in their place. Big difference.

Oh sweetheart, the drugs may help you get the weight off, but at some point you're going to have to address the underlying issues that caused you to get obese in the first place. Those aren't going to go away just because you lost some lbs with drugs.

Not very pleasant, but true.

? The underlying issue for most obese people is insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome. The Ozempic does address the underlying issues. That’s why they work so well.

It's more complicated that IR and metabolics. I'm taking semaglutide and my mental difference is boggling - I'm assuming because I'm finally reacting to insulin as a normal person does. But once I stop, if I don't relearn some behaviors, I won't keep the weight off. Food is so complicated. The pp might be coarse and making comments out of hatred rather than from a helpful place, but they're not totally wrong. I need to figure out why my brain wants the warm hug from a bag of potato chips and address it, or I'll need to stay on semaglutide forever.

Right, you’re supposed to stay on it forever. It only treats the underlying issues while you’re taking it. This is not shocking or scandalous. I plan to be on it for life.

Hmm, that's interesting. I look at medication as a way to overcome an illness, not as a way to live with an illness. Maybe I need to rethink that, as I know there are some meds people take forever to exist. But never have any docs said to me "you'll do this for life", and I never assumed I would. Are other doctors prescribing this as a lifetime treatment?

long term depression, anxiety, diabetes, BP meds? Lots of those are for life. Nothing strange about that.