Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Like, you would rather get it repeatedly even if it's going to take 20 years off your life? Because you don't want to mask? Even if it takes 40 years off your life? Even if it makes you have a heart attack in 2 years? Because you don't like masking THAT much?
It's a strange hill to die on, but okay.
If I thought masks would do what you seem to think they do, I’d mask too. But since they don’t…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you want to know why everyone is getting so sick so often these past few months, this is why. Even mild cases of Covid cause immune system damage that shares some similarities to HIV (in that it destroys T cells) and may be permanent. Repeat infections increase the damage. People think because they feel fine after they recover, that Covid is nothing. But people felt fine after they were infected with HIV too, often for a couple of years. The damage is cumulative and takes some time to emerge. https://nationalpost.com/health/is-covid-prematurely-aging-our-immune-systems
Study is interesting. But conclusion could be dead wrong. It will take years to know this.
Anonymous wrote:If you want to know why everyone is getting so sick so often these past few months, this is why. Even mild cases of Covid cause immune system damage that shares some similarities to HIV (in that it destroys T cells) and may be permanent. Repeat infections increase the damage. People think because they feel fine after they recover, that Covid is nothing. But people felt fine after they were infected with HIV too, often for a couple of years. The damage is cumulative and takes some time to emerge. https://nationalpost.com/health/is-covid-prematurely-aging-our-immune-systems
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.
It only feels "sudden" in the DC area because people kept wearing them for so long here. Go almost anywhere else in the country and masks fell away a while ago.
But yeah, if you're high risk, you need to keep up the social distancing, avoid crowded places like event venues, airplanes, Disney etc.
We went to Disney recently, wore masks everywhere, ate outside, and didn’t get Covid. Masks work if you wear them consistently and properly.
I’ve been to Europe three times in the last 7 months, 9 flights, train rides, use metro frequently and never wear a mask. Not masking works too.
Exactly. The PP who is on her high horse about masking at Disney and therefore not getting sick is misguided. Just because you didn't get sick doesn't mean your mask worked. You could've not worn the mask and not have gotten sick too, ya know.
DP. I didn’t hear a high horse. But I heard more logic from PP than whatever you are smoking. Risks are much higher for transmission for those who do nothing. It doesn’t mean you will get sick, but odds are much greater.
What you will never acknowledge is that the benefit of masking in specific environments is pretty much unknown and also varies depending on factors like case levels, ventilation, how far you are from people and the infectiousness of the variants. It's not that there is no benefit, we just don't know what that benefit is.
To me, a masked trip to Disney sounds horrible. I would never pay that amount of money to walk around masked.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.
It only feels "sudden" in the DC area because people kept wearing them for so long here. Go almost anywhere else in the country and masks fell away a while ago.
But yeah, if you're high risk, you need to keep up the social distancing, avoid crowded places like event venues, airplanes, Disney etc.
We went to Disney recently, wore masks everywhere, ate outside, and didn’t get Covid. Masks work if you wear them consistently and properly.
I’ve been to Europe three times in the last 7 months, 9 flights, train rides, use metro frequently and never wear a mask. Not masking works too.
Exactly. The PP who is on her high horse about masking at Disney and therefore not getting sick is misguided. Just because you didn't get sick doesn't mean your mask worked. You could've not worn the mask and not have gotten sick too, ya know.
DP. I didn’t hear a high horse. But I heard more logic from PP than whatever you are smoking. Risks are much higher for transmission for those who do nothing. It doesn’t mean you will get sick, but odds are much greater.
What you will never acknowledge is that the benefit of masking in specific environments is pretty much unknown and also varies depending on factors like case levels, ventilation, how far you are from people and the infectiousness of the variants. It's not that there is no benefit, we just don't know what that benefit is.
To me, a masked trip to Disney sounds horrible. I would never pay that amount of money to walk around masked.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.
It only feels "sudden" in the DC area because people kept wearing them for so long here. Go almost anywhere else in the country and masks fell away a while ago.
But yeah, if you're high risk, you need to keep up the social distancing, avoid crowded places like event venues, airplanes, Disney etc.
We went to Disney recently, wore masks everywhere, ate outside, and didn’t get Covid. Masks work if you wear them consistently and properly.
I’ve been to Europe three times in the last 7 months, 9 flights, train rides, use metro frequently and never wear a mask. Not masking works too.
Exactly. The PP who is on her high horse about masking at Disney and therefore not getting sick is misguided. Just because you didn't get sick doesn't mean your mask worked. You could've not worn the mask and not have gotten sick too, ya know.
DP. I didn’t hear a high horse. But I heard more logic from PP than whatever you are smoking. Risks are much higher for transmission for those who do nothing. It doesn’t mean you will get sick, but odds are much greater.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.
It only feels "sudden" in the DC area because people kept wearing them for so long here. Go almost anywhere else in the country and masks fell away a while ago.
But yeah, if you're high risk, you need to keep up the social distancing, avoid crowded places like event venues, airplanes, Disney etc.
We went to Disney recently, wore masks everywhere, ate outside, and didn’t get Covid. Masks work if you wear them consistently and properly.
I’ve been to Europe three times in the last 7 months, 9 flights, train rides, use metro frequently and never wear a mask. Not masking works too.
Exactly. The PP who is on her high horse about masking at Disney and therefore not getting sick is misguided. Just because you didn't get sick doesn't mean your mask worked. You could've not worn the mask and not have gotten sick too, ya know.
Anonymous wrote:Like, how do you anti-maskers think masks are supposed to work, exactly? You realize that air is supposed to go in and out of the mask, right? To allow you to breathe? Otherwise you would be breathing the same air over and over and would die of oxygen deprivation. The mask is just supposed to trap the aerosol particles. But air is supposed to come in and air is supposed to come out through the mask!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.
Why would you go to the Kennedy Center at all if you consider it so high risk? Masks only take you so far. People don't wear them because they hate wearing masks. Going to the Kennedy Center is totally optional, they are not going to pay to be uncomfortable for hours.
But that’s my points. I’m living life pretty much as I normally would and it’s so easy to throw on a mask when there’s no downside to me. Even if it gives me incremental benefit, the cost is almost nothing. Why not do it? Fwiw, I’ve been living normally for a while now, traveling, take metro nearly every day, etc. I did get covid once from my kid who was eating indoors in a crowded school cafeteria every day so that was largely unavoidable. I’m really surprised so many people view it as a hardship. I have asthma and it doesn’t bother me unless I’m exercising or walking hard. Just sitting in a theater or on metro, it’s zero hardship.
It's zero hardship for you. I find it incredibly uncomfortable. I find wearing a good mask limits my field of vision (which is important when you have a toddler in crowded places). It fogs up my glasses. Luckily I am past this stage but for many people it gives them horrible acne (which can cause permanent facial scars). Just saying since you are so confused why everyone (most people) do not act like you do.
+1, especially to fogged glasses. If I thought I needed to wear a mask to the Kennedy Center, I wouldn't go, and I didn't do things like that when they were required. The experience wouldn't be worth it if I had to wear a mask.
Right? Like some people will pretend it's our fault for wearing the wrong type of mask. But the fogging happens with the best N95 masks (I've tried different sizes) especially in certain types of weather.
This is a big problem for me too, regardless of the type of mask.
My nose also itches near constantly, regardless of the mask. Cloth, surgical, N95.
If eyeglasses are fogging (mine do too), isn't that a clear indication that our breath is escaping the mask and therefore the mask isn't doing much?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Like, you would rather get it repeatedly even if it's going to take 20 years off your life? Because you don't want to mask? Even if it takes 40 years off your life? Even if it makes you have a heart attack in 2 years? Because you don't like masking THAT much?
It's a strange hill to die on, but okay.
If I thought masks would do what you seem to think they do, I’d mask too. But since they don’t…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.
Why would you go to the Kennedy Center at all if you consider it so high risk? Masks only take you so far. People don't wear them because they hate wearing masks. Going to the Kennedy Center is totally optional, they are not going to pay to be uncomfortable for hours.
But that’s my points. I’m living life pretty much as I normally would and it’s so easy to throw on a mask when there’s no downside to me. Even if it gives me incremental benefit, the cost is almost nothing. Why not do it? Fwiw, I’ve been living normally for a while now, traveling, take metro nearly every day, etc. I did get covid once from my kid who was eating indoors in a crowded school cafeteria every day so that was largely unavoidable. I’m really surprised so many people view it as a hardship. I have asthma and it doesn’t bother me unless I’m exercising or walking hard. Just sitting in a theater or on metro, it’s zero hardship.
It's zero hardship for you. I find it incredibly uncomfortable. I find wearing a good mask limits my field of vision (which is important when you have a toddler in crowded places). It fogs up my glasses. Luckily I am past this stage but for many people it gives them horrible acne (which can cause permanent facial scars). Just saying since you are so confused why everyone (most people) do not act like you do.
+1, especially to fogged glasses. If I thought I needed to wear a mask to the Kennedy Center, I wouldn't go, and I didn't do things like that when they were required. The experience wouldn't be worth it if I had to wear a mask.
Right? Like some people will pretend it's our fault for wearing the wrong type of mask. But the fogging happens with the best N95 masks (I've tried different sizes) especially in certain types of weather.
This is a big problem for me too, regardless of the type of mask.
My nose also itches near constantly, regardless of the mask. Cloth, surgical, N95.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Like, you would rather get it repeatedly even if it's going to take 20 years off your life? Because you don't want to mask? Even if it takes 40 years off your life? Even if it makes you have a heart attack in 2 years? Because you don't like masking THAT much?
It's a strange hill to die on, but okay.
If I thought masks would do what you seem to think they do, I’d mask too. But since they don’t…
DCUM is such a strange world. People here are in complete denial that a lot of transmission is inevitable. Not all of it, but most of it.
And yet, we mask with N95s and are the healthiest weve been in years.
And if/when you remove your mask, you will be China - just delaying the inevitable.
Why would we need to remove them if they help keep us healthy? If it's NBD after close to 3 years of wearing, what is the downside to wear them in perpetuity? Like are there actually any documented risks to oral health, etc. from long-term mask usage? My dentist told me there have been studies showing that the bacterial "biome" in our mouths shifted slightly due to masking, but nothing necessarily negative. He still wears masks when seeing patients.
Dentists have been wearing masks when seeing patients since long before Covid. It’s the standard of care.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.
It only feels "sudden" in the DC area because people kept wearing them for so long here. Go almost anywhere else in the country and masks fell away a while ago.
But yeah, if you're high risk, you need to keep up the social distancing, avoid crowded places like event venues, airplanes, Disney etc.
We went to Disney recently, wore masks everywhere, ate outside, and didn’t get Covid. Masks work if you wear them consistently and properly.
I’ve been to Europe three times in the last 7 months, 9 flights, train rides, use metro frequently and never wear a mask. Not masking works too.