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Anonymous wrote:This is why journalism is important, kids. Also, where was the Democratic Party opposition research? Red lights were blinking everywhere - https://dccc.org/the-case-against-george-santos/

Really nice to learn about this a month AFTER the election.

What stupid, lazy F**ks are staffing the NYT these days.

Dan Diamond with the Washington Post has an interesting read on this, I think it’s that reporters are busy looking at the big picture and not on the little details? The tiny local paper had suspicions but not enough reach or funds to dig into everything.

“The Santos story unfolded on Long Island, in the shadow of the nation's largest city. His district is a 45-minute car drive from Brooklyn, which surely ranks high for U.S. journalists per capita.

And Santos' problems did get flagged by local media, as Semafor reports. It's just that no one followed up on the breadcrumbs.

Via Semafor:

The Leader, a local news outlet that covers Long Island’s North Shore, reported Santos’ filings in 2020 were $5,000 and then leaped to $11 million. The article quoted an anonymous Republican leader asking: “Are we being played as extras in 'The Talented Mr Santos'?"

I didn’t think that was interesting.

Eh, maybe I will listen to any reporter who can possibly explain how this giant blunder happened in hopes of it not happening again.

It wasn’t a “blunder.” Choices were made that resulted in oppo - at least some of which was confirmed before the election - not being published. That was a choice to not release anything till after the election.

No reputable media organization is going to run with opposition research without independently verifying every bit of it. And every bit of what reporters and researchers find is then reviewed by lawyers to make sure they can’t be sued for it.

There is often conflict between reporters who want to publish, and lawyers who say it’s not airtight enough yet.

It’s not rocket science. A few phone calls to academic institutions and places of employment to verify attendance and jobs are what it takes. And if the places reveal that there is no record of the individual …. the reporter reports that.

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The claim is that his grandparents were Jews who left Ukraine prior to WWII due to persecution and resettled somewhere in Belgium before emigrating to Brazil during the war. And yet the surname of his grandparents — DeVolder — is uniquely Belgian or Dutch, as opposed to Eastern European. The story starts to fall apart with his grandmother being named Rosalina, again not terribly common for a Jew born in Ukraine.

While not entirely improbable that his grandparents were Jews who fled to Brazil from Belgium prior to the Holocaust, and named their daughter Fatima when she was born in 19-fricking-62, the story doesn’t add up. Just as with every other part of his life story.

“His mother, Fatima Devolder, was descended from migrants who fled Jewish persecution in Ukraine and World War II strife in Belgium.”

Probably her father and grandparents. Her mother was likely Rosalina Caruso.

Anonymous wrote:To recap:

The claim is that his grandparents were Jews who left Ukraine prior to WWII due to persecution and resettled somewhere in Belgium before emigrating to Brazil during the war. And yet the surname of his grandparents — DeVolder — is uniquely Belgian or Dutch, as opposed to Eastern European. The story starts to fall apart with his grandmother being named Rosalina, again not terribly common for a Jew born in Ukraine.

While not entirely improbable that his grandparents were Jews who fled to Brazil from Belgium prior to the Holocaust, and named their daughter Fatima when she was born in 19-fricking-62, the story doesn’t add up. Just as with every other part of his life story.

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Anonymous wrote:Fatima’s Jewish-Ukrainian parents, by way of Belgium, were named Paul and Rosalina Devolder.

It’s early but Paul doesn’t strike me as a common name for Jewish people.

JTA is skeptical:

“Not addressed in the article: Was he lying about his Jewish background? As with so much else in his personal narrative, there’s little to suggest truth beyond his own past comments.

The Times noted that Santos, 34, has identified to Jewish Insider as Jewish through his mother and Catholic through his father. Both parents were born in Brazil. Santos has said on Twitter that he is a practicing Catholic — and it is not unusual for some Americans to identify as ethnically Jewish and religiously Christian.

“Whether my mother’s Jewish background beliefs, which are mine or my father’s Roman Catholic beliefs, which are also mine, are represented or not,” he told Jewish Insider after his election, “I want to represent everyone else that practices every other religion to make sure everybody feels like they have a partner in me.”
https://www.jta.org/2022/12/19/politics/congressman-elect-george-santos-campaigned-as-a-jewish-republican-was-he-lying

Fatima isn't a Jewish or Ukrainian name, either.

In Brazil, it’s just dated. NBD.

The point you missed is that it is more commonly a Portuguese name, as opposed to Ukrainian, much less Jewish, in the 1920s or 1930s. DeVolder certainly would be common among the Flemish in Belgium but that doesn’t dovetail with the Ukrainian origin story. It’s a fabrication.

Tell me you know nothing about Brazil without telling me you know nothing about Brazil. The story is likely a fabrication, but his mother’s name is typical.

Typical for a Roman Catholic family, not emigre refugees from Eastern Europe by way of Belgium.

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Anonymous wrote:Fatima’s Jewish-Ukrainian parents, by way of Belgium, were named Paul and Rosalina Devolder.

It’s early but Paul doesn’t strike me as a common name for Jewish people.

JTA is skeptical:

“Not addressed in the article: Was he lying about his Jewish background? As with so much else in his personal narrative, there’s little to suggest truth beyond his own past comments.

The Times noted that Santos, 34, has identified to Jewish Insider as Jewish through his mother and Catholic through his father. Both parents were born in Brazil. Santos has said on Twitter that he is a practicing Catholic — and it is not unusual for some Americans to identify as ethnically Jewish and religiously Christian.

“Whether my mother’s Jewish background beliefs, which are mine or my father’s Roman Catholic beliefs, which are also mine, are represented or not,” he told Jewish Insider after his election, “I want to represent everyone else that practices every other religion to make sure everybody feels like they have a partner in me.”
https://www.jta.org/2022/12/19/politics/congressman-elect-george-santos-campaigned-as-a-jewish-republican-was-he-lying

Fatima isn't a Jewish or Ukrainian name, either.

In Brazil, it’s just dated. NBD.

The point you missed is that it is more commonly a Portuguese name, as opposed to Ukrainian, much less Jewish, in the 1920s or 1930s. DeVolder certainly would be common among the Flemish in Belgium but that doesn’t dovetail with the Ukrainian origin story. It’s a fabrication.

Tell me you know nothing about Brazil without telling me you know nothing about Brazil. The story is likely a fabrication, but his mother’s name is typical.

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Anonymous wrote:Fatima’s Jewish-Ukrainian parents, by way of Belgium, were named Paul and Rosalina Devolder.

It’s early but Paul doesn’t strike me as a common name for Jewish people.

JTA is skeptical:

“Not addressed in the article: Was he lying about his Jewish background? As with so much else in his personal narrative, there’s little to suggest truth beyond his own past comments.

The Times noted that Santos, 34, has identified to Jewish Insider as Jewish through his mother and Catholic through his father. Both parents were born in Brazil. Santos has said on Twitter that he is a practicing Catholic — and it is not unusual for some Americans to identify as ethnically Jewish and religiously Christian.

“Whether my mother’s Jewish background beliefs, which are mine or my father’s Roman Catholic beliefs, which are also mine, are represented or not,” he told Jewish Insider after his election, “I want to represent everyone else that practices every other religion to make sure everybody feels like they have a partner in me.”
https://www.jta.org/2022/12/19/politics/congressman-elect-george-santos-campaigned-as-a-jewish-republican-was-he-lying

Fatima isn't a Jewish or Ukrainian name, either.

In Brazil, it’s just dated. NBD.

The point you missed is that it is more commonly a Portuguese name, as opposed to Ukrainian, much less Jewish, in the 1920s or 1930s. DeVolder certainly would be common among the Flemish in Belgium but that doesn’t dovetail with the Ukrainian origin story. It’s a fabrication.

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Anonymous wrote:Fatima’s Jewish-Ukrainian parents, by way of Belgium, were named Paul and Rosalina Devolder.

It’s early but Paul doesn’t strike me as a common name for Jewish people.

JTA is skeptical:

“Not addressed in the article: Was he lying about his Jewish background? As with so much else in his personal narrative, there’s little to suggest truth beyond his own past comments.

The Times noted that Santos, 34, has identified to Jewish Insider as Jewish through his mother and Catholic through his father. Both parents were born in Brazil. Santos has said on Twitter that he is a practicing Catholic — and it is not unusual for some Americans to identify as ethnically Jewish and religiously Christian.

“Whether my mother’s Jewish background beliefs, which are mine or my father’s Roman Catholic beliefs, which are also mine, are represented or not,” he told Jewish Insider after his election, “I want to represent everyone else that practices every other religion to make sure everybody feels like they have a partner in me.”
https://www.jta.org/2022/12/19/politics/congressman-elect-george-santos-campaigned-as-a-jewish-republican-was-he-lying

Fatima isn't a Jewish or Ukrainian name, either.

In Brazil, it’s just dated. NBD.

The point you missed is that it is more commonly a Portuguese name, as opposed to Ukrainian, much less for Jewish parents born, in the 1920s or 1930s. DeVolder certainly would be common among the Flemish in Belgium but that doesn’t dovetail with the Ukrainian origin story. It’s a fabrication.

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Anonymous wrote:A guy who didn’t pay multiple landlords, bounced bad checks, had a fake charity that just hovered up donations for personal expenses, no money to his name…..then suddenly he gets $750K salary and a “dividend” of $1m-$5m from a phony consulting company he owns with no clients in the months leading up to the general election.

Who owns Santos? This is disgusting.

The FTX guys gave him a lot of money, because of course.

https://www.theleaderonline.com/single-post/the-golden-age-of-the-grifter

Now I'm just laughing!

Whoa, hold up. He was bank rolled by FTX? I thought they sponsored D candidates?

FTX has a super weird timeline if you look into it. They went from nothing to being a Formula 51 sponsor and in talks to have naming rights to an arena in mere months. There are already a lot of questions about FTX but I havent seen any press delve into their implausible timeline yet.

Check the FTX thread, SBF said in an interview that he gave just as much money to Republicans as Democrats, but the Republicans got dark money. And Ryan Salame only gave to Republicans.