Anonymous wrote:If you're loaded and really want the "M" sweatshirt/bumper sticker, then sure Michigan is worth $16K/year more than Wisconsin or IU, $20K/year more than UMN, $23K/year more than Iowa, $25K/year more than Georgia, or $27K/year more than Florida. (Since Michigan gives less "merit" aid than any of those other flagships, I guess there should be an "at least" before each of the preceding dollar figures.) Pretty expensive hoodie, though...

For some on here, that's a rounding error. If they can afford it, then go for it.

If you're loaded and really want the "M" sweatshirt/bumper sticker, then sure Michigan is worth $16K/year more than Wisconsin or IU, $20K/year more than UMN, $23K/year more than Iowa, $25K/year more than Georgia, or $27K/year more than Florida. (Since Michigan gives less "merit" aid than any of those other flagships, I guess there should be an "at least" before each of the preceding dollar figures.) Pretty expensive hoodie, though...

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they be better off at Colorado?

Lifestyle, maybe. Winter is more fun in Colorado than Michigan, if you're into winter sports.

I thought this was about choosing a college, not a vacation destination

Well, if you have to live in a place for 4 years, it helps not to hate it. Michigan winters can be pretty brutal, so I could see it being an issue for someone coming from San Diego or Hawaii.

I never heard any graduates of Michigan saying that they hated their four years in Ann Arbor. Perhaps your comment was a bit off?

PP. I went to Michigan, so I'm not complaining about Ann Arbor, it's probably the best college town in the US. But, I grew up in Canada and my family lived in Michigan at the time, so I was used to the cold and gloomy darkness. There are probably a number of people from warmer states that might forego applying to schools like Michigan that are located in such cold locations. Our friend's daughter, who is graduating from Thomas Jefferson HS this year applied only to schools in warmer places.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they be better off at Colorado?

Lifestyle, maybe. Winter is more fun in Colorado than Michigan, if you're into winter sports.

I thought this was about choosing a college, not a vacation destination

Well, if you have to live in a place for 4 years, it helps not to hate it. Michigan winters can be pretty brutal, so I could see it being an issue for someone coming from San Diego or Hawaii.

I never heard any graduates of Michigan saying that they hated their four years in Ann Arbor. Perhaps your comment was a bit off?

That’s a lie. Most think the state is a boring dump. Kids flee the second graduate, they don’t even stay through the weekend of graduation. It’s increasingly popular to finish in three or three and a half years and skip town months before you graduate.

So, everyone hates it and nobody stays for graduation. Riiiight.....

This thread has gone off the rails.

It’s just one troll that constantly denigrates the Midwest in general and Michigan in particular. Michigan has a huge endowment that is fed by satisfied graduates. Very few state schools can say the same thing.

I just don't get why folks who have a beef with Michigan/state schools/large publics even post here. If you think Michigan doesn't match the hype, then you have plenty of options. No one is forcing you or your DCs to apply there or even to read this thread. My mom would say you are telling on yourself and it is not good.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they be better off at Colorado?

Lifestyle, maybe. Winter is more fun in Colorado than Michigan, if you're into winter sports.

I thought this was about choosing a college, not a vacation destination

Well, if you have to live in a place for 4 years, it helps not to hate it. Michigan winters can be pretty brutal, so I could see it being an issue for someone coming from San Diego or Hawaii.

I never heard any graduates of Michigan saying that they hated their four years in Ann Arbor. Perhaps your comment was a bit off?

That’s a lie. Most think the state is a boring dump. Kids flee the second graduate, they don’t even stay through the weekend of graduation. It’s increasingly popular to finish in three or three and a half years and skip town months before you graduate.

So, everyone hates it and nobody stays for graduation. Riiiight.....

This thread has gone off the rails.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they be better off at Colorado?

More chill, prettier town, 300 days of sunshine a year, better looking student body

And a 6 year graduation rate that is more than 20 percentage points lower than Michigan (70's vs. 90's). I'm sure it has nothing to do with the drug culture in Boulder.

Why would a strong student obsess over the grad rate? Strong students always finish in 4 or fewer years with AP credits.

That's true - so it shows that Michigan has a very high percentage of strong students. Much better peer group than schools where 25-30% don't graduate.

Anonymous wrote:I actually think Michigan is the perfect school for someone who isn’t quite sure what appeals to them yet. You can be sporty, nerdy, Greek, into student government, or all or none of the above; you can change your major a dozen times and you will still find your people and end up in a highly ranked program. It’s a great place to have a ton of options and learn more about what you want and your next step.

You’re describing literally every state flagship. You can get all of that with better weather and more dynamic local economies at coastal and southern flagships.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think Michigan is the perfect school for someone who isn’t quite sure what appeals to them yet. You can be sporty, nerdy, Greek, into student government, or all or none of the above; you can change your major a dozen times and you will still find your people and end up in a highly ranked program. It’s a great place to have a ton of options and learn more about what you want and your next step.

Just like every other B1G school.

Hardly. You missed the highly ranked program comment.

Naw, I gave it all the weight it deserved.

Jealousy is not a good look.

There is no reason to be jealous of an enormous state school. A state school...is just a state school.

Seriously. At least state schools like UC Santa Barb and UCLA have gorgeous surroundings and sun you could be jealous of. Wolverines thinking anyone is jealous of their blizzards, grey skies, and game day blackout binge drinking with smeared face paint makes me laugh.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they be better off at Colorado?

More chill, prettier town, 300 days of sunshine a year, better looking student body

And a 6 year graduation rate that is more than 20 percentage points lower than Michigan (70's vs. 90's). I'm sure it has nothing to do with the drug culture in Boulder.

Why would a strong student obsess over the grad rate? Strong students always finish in 4 or fewer years with AP credits.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they be better off at Colorado?

Lifestyle, maybe. Winter is more fun in Colorado than Michigan, if you're into winter sports.

I thought this was about choosing a college, not a vacation destination

Well, if you have to live in a place for 4 years, it helps not to hate it. Michigan winters can be pretty brutal, so I could see it being an issue for someone coming from San Diego or Hawaii.

I never heard any graduates of Michigan saying that they hated their four years in Ann Arbor. Perhaps your comment was a bit off?

That’s a lie. Most think the state is a boring dump. Kids flee the second graduate, they don’t even stay through the weekend of graduation. It’s increasingly popular to finish in three or three and a half years and skip town months before you graduate.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they be better off at Colorado?

More chill, prettier town, 300 days of sunshine a year, better looking student body

And a 6 year graduation rate that is more than 20 percentage points lower than Michigan (70's vs. 90's). I'm sure it has nothing to do with the drug culture in Boulder.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think Michigan is the perfect school for someone who isn’t quite sure what appeals to them yet. You can be sporty, nerdy, Greek, into student government, or all or none of the above; you can change your major a dozen times and you will still find your people and end up in a highly ranked program. It’s a great place to have a ton of options and learn more about what you want and your next step.

Just like every other B1G school.

Hardly. You missed the highly ranked program comment.

Naw, I gave it all the weight it deserved.

Jealousy is not a good look.

It's eye-rolling, actually.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think Michigan is the perfect school for someone who isn’t quite sure what appeals to them yet. You can be sporty, nerdy, Greek, into student government, or all or none of the above; you can change your major a dozen times and you will still find your people and end up in a highly ranked program. It’s a great place to have a ton of options and learn more about what you want and your next step.

Just like every other B1G school.

Hardly. You missed the highly ranked program comment.

Naw, I gave it all the weight it deserved.

Jealousy is not a good look.

There is no reason to be jealous of an enormous state school. A state school...is just a state school.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they be better off at Colorado?

Lifestyle, maybe. Winter is more fun in Colorado than Michigan, if you're into winter sports.

I thought this was about choosing a college, not a vacation destination

Well, if you have to live in a place for 4 years, it helps not to hate it. Michigan winters can be pretty brutal, so I could see it being an issue for someone coming from San Diego or Hawaii.

I never heard any graduates of Michigan saying that they hated their four years in Ann Arbor. Perhaps your comment was a bit off?