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Anonymous wrote:Deferred from Nova HS 4.1 w, 1450 SAT, lots of ECs, white male, applied to Pamplin
Afraid we are on the deferred/waitlist/deny train.

So Va Tech is harder to get into than William & Mary? I just read the William & Mary ED thread and almost all the accepted stats are around 4.1 or 4.2 weighted with lower SAT. Some 4.0 weighted.

The demand for VT ComSci/Eng. is greater than the demand for W&M (anything). Yes, there are people who really prefer what W&M offers, but their numbers are significantly less than the number of people who want a CS/Eng degree from VT.

The world is being taken over (has been taken over) by CS people. I don't even thing Engineering is really very hot. If you look at what the TJHSST graduates are planning to study in college it seems that the VAST VAST majority are all planning to study CS in college. You don't see hardly any actual Engineering majors, doctors, Physics, Chemistry. It's scary and depressing that the kids who would have been going into those majors 15 yrs ago are almost ALL pursuing computer science now. We still need people in the hard sciences (and the soft sciences too!).

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Anonymous wrote:I think as a general rule many people don’t realize how competitive some programs are to get into at VT in state. Not just VT engineering. The admit rate for something like BIT is substantially lower than the overall in state admit rate for W&M and isn’t much higher than the UVA early action rate. About equal to the UVA early decision offer rate.

People might realize this, but reading a lot of posts in VT threads I don’t think many do.

It's probably because there are a lot of students who really don't have the grades or aptitude for a "tech" school who apply to VT, but don't attempt W&M or UVA. Anecdotally, I have math students every year who tell me they're applying to VT and I'm always surprised because I know they're not going to end up majoring in a technical field unless something changes dramatically about their aptitude for STEM and/or their work habits.

But again, there are several other colleges at VT that have majors which have nothing to do with "tech". Their liberal arts college is fantastic - and many students prefer it *over* UVA or W&M.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t able to find it online. But if you go to VT school specific information sessions and ask they will tell you the cutoff to submit for SAT for the program you want. Could never get UVA or WM to do that but VT will. They will also give you the median SAT etc. if you ask. GPA they aren’t going to be able to answer in a meaningful fashion because high schools vary.

At UVA and W&M kids don't apply by major. UVA is by college (A&S, Engineering, etc.). Median SATs, etc. are on the SCHEV website and also in common data sets. UVA also has data available by college on its website (applied, accepted, SAT, ACT, GPA).

Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t able to find it online. But if you go to VT school specific information sessions and ask they will tell you the cutoff to submit for SAT for the program you want. Could never get UVA or WM to do that but VT will. They will also give you the median SAT etc. if you ask. GPA they aren’t going to be able to answer in a meaningful fashion because high schools vary.

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Anonymous wrote:I think as a general rule many people don’t realize how competitive some programs are to get into at VT in state. Not just VT engineering. The admit rate for something like BIT is substantially lower than the overall in state admit rate for W&M and isn’t much higher than the UVA early action rate. About equal to the UVA early decision offer rate.

People might realize this, but reading a lot of posts in VT threads I don’t think many do.

It's probably because there are a lot of students who really don't have the grades or aptitude for a "tech" school who apply to VT, but don't attempt W&M or UVA. Anecdotally, I have math students every year who tell me they're applying to VT and I'm always surprised because I know they're not going to end up majoring in a technical field unless something changes dramatically about their aptitude for STEM and/or their work habits.

Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t able to find it online. But if you go to VT school specific information sessions and ask they will tell you the cutoff to submit for SAT for the program you want. Could never get UVA or WM to do that but VT will. They will also give you the median SAT etc. if you ask. GPA they aren’t going to be able to answer in a meaningful fashion because high schools vary.

Anonymous wrote:I think as a general rule many people don’t realize how competitive some programs are to get into at VT in state. Not just VT engineering. The admit rate for something like BIT is substantially lower than the overall in state admit rate for W&M and isn’t much higher than the UVA early action rate. About equal to the UVA early decision offer rate.

People might realize this, but reading a lot of posts in VT threads I don’t think many do.

Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t able to find it online. But if you go to VT school specific information sessions and ask they will tell you the cutoff to submit for SAT for the program you want. Could never get UVA or WM to do that but VT will. They will also give you the median SAT etc. if you ask. GPA they aren’t going to be able to answer in a meaningful fashion because high schools vary.

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Anonymous wrote:I think as a general rule many people don’t realize how competitive some programs are to get into at VT in state. Not just VT engineering. The admit rate for something like BIT is substantially lower than the overall in state admit rate for W&M and isn’t much higher than the UVA early action rate. About equal to the UVA early decision offer rate.

People might realize this, but reading a lot of posts in VT threads I don’t think many do.

+1
All we ever hear about is how difficult it is to get into VT Engineering - but there are plenty of other very competitive majors at VT that have nothing to do with engineering. It's getting harder and harder to get in every year.

Anonymous wrote:I think as a general rule many people don’t realize how competitive some programs are to get into at VT in state. Not just VT engineering. The admit rate for something like BIT is substantially lower than the overall in state admit rate for W&M and isn’t much higher than the UVA early action rate. About equal to the UVA early decision offer rate.

People might realize this, but reading a lot of posts in VT threads I don’t think many do.