Anonymous
Post 06/26/2022 15:21     Subject: Re:Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
Blame religion-

A partnership between Calvin University and Calvin Theological Seminary, the Calvin Prison Initiative (CPI) is a unique program that provides a Christian liberal arts education to inmates at the Richard A. Handlon Correctional Facility in Ionia, MI. This five-year program results in a bachelor of arts degree from Calvin University in Faith and Community Leadership.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2022 14:57     Subject: Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you start these posts to test ideas for how to get Americans into dumb fights, or just to try to build time on site and get more clicks for the ads?


It is perfectly natural to be upset that convicted felons are getting free degrees, while the same college has no issue putting middle class students $20,000 to $30,000 in debt.


It's logical to infer the middle class students' loans are likely partially subsidizing the 66% off tuition discount the university gives the felons.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2022 10:31     Subject: Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
Anonymous wrote:Do you start these posts to test ideas for how to get Americans into dumb fights, or just to try to build time on site and get more clicks for the ads?


It is perfectly natural to be upset that convicted felons are getting free degrees, while the same college has no issue putting middle class students $20,000 to $30,000 in debt.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2022 10:28     Subject: Re:Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
I have no idea about fair but I totally support it.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2022 10:27     Subject: Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
Anonymous wrote:According to gov scorecard, the average LAB-ABIDING middle class kid leaves Calvin University with $23,000 in student loans.

While CONVICTED CRIMINALS get a free bachelor's degree.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?169080-Calvin-University


Why won’t the university give middle class students the same 66% off tuition discount they’re giving convicted felons?
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2022 00:26     Subject: Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
I looked, and, to its credit, my alma mater, Wash. U., does this, too. I’m really proud of that.

If prison classes crowded my son out of Wash. U.: boo hoo hoo. Maybe video games did more damage to his admissions chances than the prison program.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2022 00:21     Subject: Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
Do you start these posts to test ideas for how to get Americans into dumb fights, or just to try to build time on site and get more clicks for the ads?

Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 19:13     Subject: Re:Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
Boo hoo.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 18:52     Subject: Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
Yes it is unfair.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 10:26     Subject: Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look OP. Somebody thought it would be a good idea for inmates to get college degrees, then they got some momentum going and made it happen. If you think something needs to change, do the same thing. Make it happen. There are already lots of people trying to change the problems oriole have identified on this thread about college accessibility for various groups. Figure out what cause you want to support and go support it.


It's called virtue signaling, likely funded by a handful of millionaires plus a steep discount to the prisoners. Millionaires and Ivory Tower elites have compassion for convicted criminals than low and middle class kids. Period. It's honestly disgusting!


Wow, that's a really big leap to implying that all wealthy people have more compassion for criminals than for low and middle class kids. And why do you want to argue with someone who's done well for themselves over how they choose to give back to the world? How do you know the donor wasn't themselves the beneficiary of someone who helped them improve themselves after they made a mistake that landed them in prison? Cynicism and smug judgmentalism aren't very attractive, either.


Youre shouting in to the wind, reasonable person.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 10:25     Subject: Re:Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
I would SO much rather have these guys getting an education - when they get out of jail, less likely to return to the criminal lifestyle that could be a danger to my family or community
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 10:17     Subject: Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
But this is wonderful
Prisoners are going to be let out eventually, some time. They will have skills to get a job
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 06:26     Subject: Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
Anonymous wrote:This is why president Biden needs to forgive all UNDERGRADUATE federal student loans.


And what message does that send to those who have already paid off their loans?

Why would anyone now entering college give any forethought to how much they're spending if they think the government will pay off all their debt someday?

Student loans for those who are making $100+ a year should be forgiven?

It's not as simple as you make it out to be.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 06:17     Subject: Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look OP. Somebody thought it would be a good idea for inmates to get college degrees, then they got some momentum going and made it happen. If you think something needs to change, do the same thing. Make it happen. There are already lots of people trying to change the problems oriole have identified on this thread about college accessibility for various groups. Figure out what cause you want to support and go support it.


It's called virtue signaling, likely funded by a handful of millionaires plus a steep discount to the prisoners. Millionaires and Ivory Tower elites have compassion for convicted criminals than low and middle class kids. Period. It's honestly disgusting!


Wow, that's a really big leap to implying that all wealthy people have more compassion for criminals than for low and middle class kids. And why do you want to argue with someone who's done well for themselves over how they choose to give back to the world? How do you know the donor wasn't themselves the beneficiary of someone who helped them improve themselves after they made a mistake that landed them in prison? Cynicism and smug judgmentalism aren't very attractive, either.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 01:18     Subject: Isn't this unfair? Prisoners getting free bachelor's degrees from a private college
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not really. Prison is a huge taxpayer expense, and private prison lobbies work with Republicans to keep imprisoning many non-violent offenders, at taxpayer expense. So if some of those can do something useful with their time, paid for by YOU, and be less of a burden to society in the future instead of going back to a life of crime, that's ultimately to your benefit, OP.

Until we can ban guns. That will clear out a TON of prisons and lower costs! Obviously the NRA and prison lobbies don't want that.

Yes, they should be doing things to ease the burden of taxpayers. Like doing road projects or making things to help victims. They can better themselves through this work.


Ah, you think they should be slaves. Got it.