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Anonymous wrote:I disagree with people saying she is a nobody. She's not that well known of an actress, for sure, but she's worked enough and has enough of a presence to have 1.5 million followers on insta, which means she can make good money posting. She gets a lot of paid appearance gigs. It's obvious from her social media and features in magazines and stuff.

It's not the 90s anymore. A lot actresses make a ton of money not acting but through social, appearances, etc.

I don't have an opinion on the whole surrogacy thing one way or the other cause I just don't know care enough about this situation to ponder it, but saying she doesn't have a career just case you don't know what she's up to isn't accurate.

Tons of nobodies are TikTok or Insta famous and get paid. A million followers isn’t really a lot. It doesn’t make them celebs, and it certainly doesn’t prompt them to go the surrogacy route to protect their “career.”

If only one or two people on dcum recognized her name, then she isn’t truly famous.

Her surrogacy and ppd stories smack of a desperate pr move.

She’s trying really hard to make fetch happen.

Right, but Jaime is interviewed all the time in People and Us. I subscribe to both and regularly see her, and in fact knew all about the fact that she was prepping for IVF or whatever. She's on a lot of red carpets etc. It's pretty clear companies pay her to wear their stuff, post and talk about it, or whatever.

And it's a fact that having over a million followers means you get paid for certain posts. There are a lot of mommy bloggers making a good living who are a lot less famous than Jaimie (she also has a celeb husband which I'm sure helps).

Anonymous wrote:I disagree with people saying she is a nobody. She's not that well known of an actress, for sure, but she's worked enough and has enough of a presence to have 1.5 million followers on insta, which means she can make good money posting. She gets a lot of paid appearance gigs. It's obvious from her social media and features in magazines and stuff.

It's not the 90s anymore. A lot actresses make a ton of money not acting but through social, appearances, etc.

I don't have an opinion on the whole surrogacy thing one way or the other cause I just don't know care enough about this situation to ponder it, but saying she doesn't have a career just case you don't know what she's up to isn't accurate.

Tons of nobodies are TikTok or Insta famous and get paid. A million followers isn’t really a lot. It doesn’t make them celebs, and it certainly doesn’t prompt them to go the surrogacy route to protect their “career.”

If only one or two people on dcum recognized her name, then she isn’t truly famous.

Her surrogacy and ppd stories smack of a desperate pr move.

She’s trying really hard to make fetch happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Chances are, her husband wanted kids badly and she was ambivalent. This was the compromise they reached. Good for them.

Or she's too damn old and couldn't have kids and didn't even have viable eggs. Wasted 20 years of her life to be a reality TV has-been and D list actress instead of having babies naturally, at an age her body could have easily bounced back from.

I usually think that’s harsh but Chung is 39 and Asians have documented studies showing it’s harder for them to conceive as their fertile eggs are in shorter supply.

All of my Korean friends who had babies in their 20s bounced back immediately and are still skinny and adorable and still get carded for wine.

What does that have to do with their egg supply? Nothing. You have to rush to pop out babies early if your fertility rates are super pitiful post 29.

Asian American women have 33% lower successful pregnancy rates after IVF treatment compared to Caucasian women⁵. Multiple studies have affirmed the need for further research to better understand why.

Studies have found lower pregnancy rates, both with and without fertility treatments, among Asian women compared to their Caucasian counterparts without clear causes

https://www.mochimag.com/lifestyle/health/is-asian-fertility-a-thing/

Um most Asian American women I know had babies in their mid-30s. I’m not questioning the study, but very few educated women in big cities have in their 20s.

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And that is the real issue.

American women were sold a lie that they could have it all. The reality is you are likely to struggle with fertility if you wait until your 40s to have a baby. You are more fertile in your 20s. You also have a better chance of landing a good husband in your 20s.

There was an excellent npr segment a million years ago on the topic. It not only focused on fertility, but on the economics of marrying and having babies after college. The study focused on women staying home for several years after college to have kids before seriously entering the workforce.

But Jaime and her husband started dating in 2012, when she was 28/29. They decided early on they wanted to do this - it's well documented. So she wasn't sold a lie - she knew she didn't want to get pregnant and they froze embryos at 35 - this is well documented if you google them. She's been super upfront about this all. She didn't "wait until she was 40" and she did land a husband in her 20s.

What career? Never heard of her.

I disagree with people saying she is a nobody. She's not that well known of an actress, for sure, but she's worked enough and has enough of a presence to have 1.5 million followers on insta, which means she can make good money posting. She gets a lot of paid appearance gigs. It's obvious from her social media and features in magazines and stuff.

It's not the 90s anymore. A lot actresses make a ton of money not acting but through social, appearances, etc.

I don't have an opinion on the whole surrogacy thing one way or the other cause I just don't know care enough about this situation to ponder it, but saying she doesn't have a career just case you don't know what she's up to isn't accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:Chances are, her husband wanted kids badly and she was ambivalent. This was the compromise they reached. Good for them.

Or she's too damn old and couldn't have kids and didn't even have viable eggs. Wasted 20 years of her life to be a reality TV has-been and D list actress instead of having babies naturally, at an age her body could have easily bounced back from.

I usually think that’s harsh but Chung is 39 and Asians have documented studies showing it’s harder for them to conceive as their fertile eggs are in shorter supply.

All of my Korean friends who had babies in their 20s bounced back immediately and are still skinny and adorable and still get carded for wine.

What does that have to do with their egg supply? Nothing. You have to rush to pop out babies early if your fertility rates are super pitiful post 29.

Asian American women have 33% lower successful pregnancy rates after IVF treatment compared to Caucasian women⁵. Multiple studies have affirmed the need for further research to better understand why.

Studies have found lower pregnancy rates, both with and without fertility treatments, among Asian women compared to their Caucasian counterparts without clear causes

https://www.mochimag.com/lifestyle/health/is-asian-fertility-a-thing/

Um most Asian American women I know had babies in their mid-30s. I’m not questioning the study, but very few educated women in big cities have in their 20s.

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And that is the real issue.

American women were sold a lie that they could have it all. The reality is you are likely to struggle with fertility if you wait until your 40s to have a baby. You are more fertile in your 20s. You also have a better chance of landing a good husband in your 20s.

There was an excellent npr segment a million years ago on the topic. It not only focused on fertility, but on the economics of marrying and having babies after college. The study focused on women staying home for several years after college to have kids before seriously entering the workforce.

More like 30. Fertility falls off a cliff at 30, especially if you've never had a child.

That is just not true.

A) Infertility is very dependent on race and genetic makeup. Some races do more poorly than others at a younger age.

https://ovarianresearch.biomedcentral.com/track/pdf/10.1186/s13048-021-00928-4.pdf



B) Having a child does not prevent secondary infertility or ensure fertility stability at a certain age.

She’s so dumb. And she has no “career” she’s a literal nobody. But obviously rich enough to avoid getting gasp …pregnant fat! enjoy that postpartum depression that doesn’t exist bee cause you’re not postpartum.

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Anonymous wrote:Chances are, her husband wanted kids badly and she was ambivalent. This was the compromise they reached. Good for them.

Or she's too damn old and couldn't have kids and didn't even have viable eggs. Wasted 20 years of her life to be a reality TV has-been and D list actress instead of having babies naturally, at an age her body could have easily bounced back from.

I usually think that’s harsh but Chung is 39 and Asians have documented studies showing it’s harder for them to conceive as their fertile eggs are in shorter supply.

All of my Korean friends who had babies in their 20s bounced back immediately and are still skinny and adorable and still get carded for wine.

What does that have to do with their egg supply? Nothing. You have to rush to pop out babies early if your fertility rates are super pitiful post 29.

Asian American women have 33% lower successful pregnancy rates after IVF treatment compared to Caucasian women⁵. Multiple studies have affirmed the need for further research to better understand why.

Studies have found lower pregnancy rates, both with and without fertility treatments, among Asian women compared to their Caucasian counterparts without clear causes

https://www.mochimag.com/lifestyle/health/is-asian-fertility-a-thing/

Um most Asian American women I know had babies in their mid-30s. I’m not questioning the study, but very few educated women in big cities have in their 20s.

^^^^^

And that is the real issue.

American women were sold a lie that they could have it all. The reality is you are likely to struggle with fertility if you wait until your 40s to have a baby. You are more fertile in your 20s. You also have a better chance of landing a good husband in your 20s.

There was an excellent npr segment a million years ago on the topic. It not only focused on fertility, but on the economics of marrying and having babies after college. The study focused on women staying home for several years after college to have kids before seriously entering the workforce.

Meh. I landed a great husband in my 30s. He’s a million times better than the men I knew in my 20s. 20-something men are usually losers and kind of gross. Got pregnant with both kids literally on the first try.

I would have been miserable if I had stayed with my college boyfriend and had kids with him. Good guy, not the right one for me.

You sound very unhappy with your choice. Happy people don’t try to force everyone else to make the same choices as them. How’s your marriage?

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I merely commented about an npr segment based on research and data (which tends to dig deeper than anecdotes like your own individual story).

But since you asked, I’ve been happily married for 25 years. Got married in my early/mid 20s. First of four kids born before I turned 30.

Both DH and I have advanced degrees and nice six figure white collar jobs in DC.

FTR (since dcum is obsessed with this): we are not super religious or from the Midwest. Typical east coast liberals.

But I didn’t follow the research exactly either. I worked despite having young kids. (And, no, they weren’t raised by a nanny. We have flexible hours and were fortunate to have grandparents help with the kids).

I think the actress might have had other issues. There might be genetic issues on one or both sides. Using a surrogate because you are worried about your career is a sign of deeper MH issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you can hire a surrogate just because you don’t want to be pregnant. There are laws around this. A doctor has to certify that you can’t carry. My friend tried to use surrogacy because her first pregnancy was really hard with nausea etc but none of her doctors (OB, cardiologist, other specialists she has for pre-existing conditions) would write the letter she needed for Shady Grove.

Celebrities (yes even ones as barely famous as this) have access to doctors who will say what they want.

+2 and also I don’t think a doctor has to certify anything. Maybe that’s the rule at some fertility clinics, but it’s not a law, at least not in every state. Celebs and people really in the public eye use surrogates all the time. If they need to find a sympathetic doctor, they can, but they can also just pony up the large amount of money and medical treatments with private, sympathetic doctors for a private surrogacy arrangement.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you can hire a surrogate just because you don’t want to be pregnant. There are laws around this. A doctor has to certify that you can’t carry. My friend tried to use surrogacy because her first pregnancy was really hard with nausea etc but none of her doctors (OB, cardiologist, other specialists she has for pre-existing conditions) would write the letter she needed for Shady Grove.

Surrogacy laws vary from state to state. Virginia's law does require certification that the mother is infertile or that a pregnancy would be a risk to her physical or mental health. Maryland seems less restrictive. There is no uniform set of laws or rules. It would also be completely legal for Shady Grove to have their own policies restricting the use of surrogacy as long as they don't violate any state or federal laws by doing so.

In any case, people with money and resources can find a friendly venue to contract with a surrogate.

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Anonymous wrote:Chances are, her husband wanted kids badly and she was ambivalent. This was the compromise they reached. Good for them.

Or she's too damn old and couldn't have kids and didn't even have viable eggs. Wasted 20 years of her life to be a reality TV has-been and D list actress instead of having babies naturally, at an age her body could have easily bounced back from.

I usually think that’s harsh but Chung is 39 and Asians have documented studies showing it’s harder for them to conceive as their fertile eggs are in shorter supply.

All of my Korean friends who had babies in their 20s bounced back immediately and are still skinny and adorable and still get carded for wine.

What does that have to do with their egg supply? Nothing. You have to rush to pop out babies early if your fertility rates are super pitiful post 29.

Asian American women have 33% lower successful pregnancy rates after IVF treatment compared to Caucasian women⁵. Multiple studies have affirmed the need for further research to better understand why.

Studies have found lower pregnancy rates, both with and without fertility treatments, among Asian women compared to their Caucasian counterparts without clear causes

https://www.mochimag.com/lifestyle/health/is-asian-fertility-a-thing/

Um most Asian American women I know had babies in their mid-30s. I’m not questioning the study, but very few educated women in big cities have in their 20s.

^^^^^

And that is the real issue.

American women were sold a lie that they could have it all. The reality is you are likely to struggle with fertility if you wait until your 40s to have a baby. You are more fertile in your 20s. You also have a better chance of landing a good husband in your 20s.

There was an excellent npr segment a million years ago on the topic. It not only focused on fertility, but on the economics of marrying and having babies after college. The study focused on women staying home for several years after college to have kids before seriously entering the workforce.

Meh. I landed a great husband in my 30s. He’s a million times better than the men I knew in my 20s. 20-something men are usually losers and kind of gross. Got pregnant with both kids literally on the first try.

I would have been miserable if I had stayed with my college boyfriend and had kids with him. Good guy, not the right one for me.

You sound very unhappy with your choice. Happy people don’t try to force everyone else to make the same choices as them. How’s your marriage?

Guys, this has been in the works for years, if you follow news on Jamie at all, which I do because I think her husband Bryan Greenberg is hot as hell.

Those of you are saying she is too old - no. She's 39, twins were born when she was 38. Actually the surrogate got pregnant when Jamie was 37. Going back years you can see well before then she was freezing embryos. So she and Bryan discussed this in early 30s at latest, and then went through the procedure probably when she was 35 if not earlier. Not too old for most women to have babies.

She has been discussing freezing eggs/embryos for years and this is not a surprise for fans who follow them.

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Anonymous wrote:Chances are, her husband wanted kids badly and she was ambivalent. This was the compromise they reached. Good for them.

Or she's too damn old and couldn't have kids and didn't even have viable eggs. Wasted 20 years of her life to be a reality TV has-been and D list actress instead of having babies naturally, at an age her body could have easily bounced back from.

She’s worth $5 million. How much were you worth at 39?

I’m 39 with 3 children (all of whom I gave birth to) and my nw is $10M.

No one cares

+1. I was born with a trust and had two - one without epidural because I made it to the hospital too late - and I don't need a medal based on the method of breeding. PP should have stopped at 2, she's polluting the world with an extra spawn.

Anonymous wrote:https://people.com/parents/jamie-chung-decision-to-use-surrogate-terrified-of-putting-life-on-hold/

“I was terrified of putting my life on hold for two plus years...I don’t want to lose opportunities. I don’t want to become resentful.”

Thoughts?

2+ years? She's in for a rude awakening

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Anonymous wrote:Chances are, her husband wanted kids badly and she was ambivalent. This was the compromise they reached. Good for them.

Or she's too damn old and couldn't have kids and didn't even have viable eggs. Wasted 20 years of her life to be a reality TV has-been and D list actress instead of having babies naturally, at an age her body could have easily bounced back from.

She’s worth $5 million. How much were you worth at 39?

I’m 39 with 3 children (all of whom I gave birth to) and my nw is $10M.

No one cares