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Anonymous wrote:We just finished episode 9. I didn’t see anything to suggest Will is gay. Where did this come from? Wishful thinking?

It’s the scene where he looks away in the van and sobs after telling Mike the point behind his drawing. I thought it was very moving and I hope they handle it well in the next season. I am really surprised by the homophobia in this thread. I mean, some people may think it’s not homophobia by casually saying that it’s “obligatory” and such nonsense, but that’s really what it is. If three seconds of emotion spark this kind of response, the overreaction tells you something. Anyway, let’s not spoil this thread by this stupidity. One other awesome thing about Season 4 (notwithstanding all of the faults noted by this thread, some of which I agree with) is how hot that fellow Russian prisoner is. Am I wrong?

A poster is correct.

Um, speaking of hot… hello Hop! And demo-bat fighting Steve?? Wow!!

Yeahhhh…. I mean, I kind of want Steve and Nance to happen again. He looked so hot. Ever since that dish towel casually draped across his shoulder in Season 3 (or 2?)

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Anonymous wrote:So is Will gay and he has a crush on Mike?

Probably. Somebody must be gay or gender-fluid on every show.

I just wish they would give him a better haircut and wardrobe. Nobody looked like that in the mid/late 80s. Nobody.

Obligatory.

Y'all realize that there are actual gay people in real life, right? And to be realistic, there would be a gay character in every show?

Not every show, and not one of the main characters in every show. This is for the purpose of planting a seed, not representing what is already there.

Wow you’re paranoid. How long have you been fighting these feelings? Have you tried asking the Lord for help?

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Anonymous wrote:We just finished episode 9. I didn’t see anything to suggest Will is gay. Where did this come from? Wishful thinking?

It’s the scene where he looks away in the van and sobs after telling Mike the point behind his drawing. I thought it was very moving and I hope they handle it well in the next season. I am really surprised by the homophobia in this thread. I mean, some people may think it’s not homophobia by casually saying that it’s “obligatory” and such nonsense, but that’s really what it is. If three seconds of emotion spark this kind of response, the overreaction tells you something. Anyway, let’s not spoil this thread by this stupidity. One other awesome thing about Season 4 (notwithstanding all of the faults noted by this thread, some of which I agree with) is how hot that fellow Russian prisoner is. Am I wrong?

A poster is correct.

Um, speaking of hot… hello Hop! And demo-bat fighting Steve?? Wow!!

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like we need “an agenda” if people still think having two gay characters in a large cast seems notable.

Whatever you’re trying to accomplish here with the “agenda,” it’s obnoxious and will backfire. It’s overdone and too in your face.

?? How in the world is gay stuff on Stranger things overdone and in your face???

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Anonymous wrote:We just finished episode 9. I didn’t see anything to suggest Will is gay. Where did this come from? Wishful thinking?

It’s the scene where he looks away in the van and sobs after telling Mike the point behind his drawing. I thought it was very moving and I hope they handle it well in the next season. I am really surprised by the homophobia in this thread. I mean, some people may think it’s not homophobia by casually saying that it’s “obligatory” and such nonsense, but that’s really what it is. If three seconds of emotion spark this kind of response, the overreaction tells you something. Anyway, let’s not spoil this thread by this stupidity. One other awesome thing about Season 4 (notwithstanding all of the faults noted by this thread, some of which I agree with) is how hot that fellow Russian prisoner is. Am I wrong?

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Anonymous wrote:We just finished episode 9. I didn’t see anything to suggest Will is gay. Where did this come from? Wishful thinking?

There's been a number of pretty clear hints all season (and in past seasons as well).

Very disappointed by the homophobia in this thread. Surprised, too.

Anonymous wrote:We just finished episode 9. I didn’t see anything to suggest Will is gay. Where did this come from? Wishful thinking?

It’s the scene where he looks away in the van and sobs after telling Mike the point behind his drawing. I thought it was very moving and I hope they handle it well in the next season. I am really surprised by the homophobia in this thread. I mean, some people may think it’s not homophobia by casually saying that it’s “obligatory” and such nonsense, but that’s really what it is. If three seconds of emotion spark this kind of response, the overreaction tells you something. Anyway, let’s not spoil this thread by this stupidity. One other awesome thing about Season 4 (notwithstanding all of the faults noted by this thread, some of which I agree with) is how hot that fellow Russian prisoner is. Am I wrong?

We just finished episode 9. I didn’t see anything to suggest Will is gay. Where did this come from? Wishful thinking?

Anonymous wrote:I'm also unexpectedly rooting for Steve and Nancy. I love Steve, I really hope they're not killing him off.

I secretly hoped for this too until I found out that Jonathan and Nancy have been dating in ‘real life’ since 2016. It is obvious they are totally smitten 🥰 with each other.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe it’s 2022 and we still need to analyze every gay or possibly gay character to determine if their existence is realistic and ok or superfluous and done for an agenda. Gay people exist. Many, many more than you think. Surprise!

I have several LGBTQ friends and family members. That said, they are less than 5% of the people I know. So yes, having 2 gay main characters (that aren’t a couple) seems to be an agenda, not representation.
They did plant the seed early in season 1 with Will was being teased for being gay.
I don’t mind - but it is obviously an agenda.

OMG stop watching if you can't handle having TWO gay characters on a show

Can you read? I don’t care, but it’s obviously an agenda.
FWIW, one of my brothers is gay and be is trans. They are in their 50s. Being gay in the 1980s was SCARY. As in beat them to death scary. No one would casually be “out” in Indiana. They would be in super denial. Robin and Harrington aren’t that close when she discloses, which would never happen.
The way Will is playing it is more spot on based on my ACTUAL experience watching my siblings.

I was alive in the 80s, too, so you don't need to lecture me as if you're the only one who knew what it was like. People complaining about TWO gay characters on a TV show have an easy way to prevent themselves the displeasure of that experience.

Will explain further since you’re either dim or being deliberately obtuse. It’s not just one show, it’s every recent show. New kids movies must have the obligatory gay trope. It’s trite. Predictable.

This. Whatever else it may be it is becoming very lazy and manipulative storytelling.

This show spent HOURS on Hopper and Joyce, the Steve-Nancy-Jonathan triangle, Lucas and Max, Dustin and Suzie, Mike and Eleven. They haven’t even said outright that Will and gay, and Robin just had a few minutes of staring longingly at a girl. If you think that is “in your face” or imbalanced then you are prejudiced and not actually an ally to the gay people in your life.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe it’s 2022 and we still need to analyze every gay or possibly gay character to determine if their existence is realistic and ok or superfluous and done for an agenda. Gay people exist. Many, many more than you think. Surprise!

I have several LGBTQ friends and family members. That said, they are less than 5% of the people I know. So yes, having 2 gay main characters (that aren’t a couple) seems to be an agenda, not representation.
They did plant the seed early in season 1 with Will was being teased for being gay.
I don’t mind - but it is obviously an agenda.

OMG stop watching if you can't handle having TWO gay characters on a show

NP. I'm not bothered by it at all, I love both characters, have gay friends and relations, but I can still acknowledge there is an agenda these days.

Please tell your gay friends and family about "the agenda" you keep seeing in shows so they know they can just cut you out of their life and be done with you.

A real friend would be celebrating the representation.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like we need “an agenda” if people still think having two gay characters in a large cast seems notable.

Whatever you’re trying to accomplish here with the “agenda,” it’s obnoxious and will backfire. It’s overdone and too in your face.

DP. What is in your face? That people are gay? Most of the romance in the show is focused on heterosexuals. Was that "in your face" as well? What about the black kid and white girl kissing? That probably bothered you a lot, didn't it.

And how, exactly, will it "backfire"? Please tell me, specifically.

You're disgusting.

Anonymous wrote:The “agenda” is representation. Full stop. We exist, don’t hide us. That’s all. If you have no issues with LGBTQ+ people, then you’d support that “agenda” and seeing two on one show won’t make you roll your eyes or question it.

+1. These gay characters haven’t even had relationships or a kiss with anyone. Yet a certain poster who claims not to have a problem with gay people thinks it’s too “in his/her face.” At least be honest about your homophobia.

The “agenda” is representation. Full stop. We exist, don’t hide us. That’s all. If you have no issues with LGBTQ+ people, then you’d support that “agenda” and seeing two on one show won’t make you roll your eyes or question it.