Anonymous wrote:Why such disdain for those majoring in “vocational” degrees? I majored in accounting because as someone with few means, I needed something that would get me straight into a job. I didn’t have much room for error or creativity.

They are telling us we are supposed to know our place.

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Anonymous wrote:We will have an oversupply of CS people, like we had librarians, pharmacists, and nurses in the past. The top ones, with keen business sense and strong interpersonal relationships, will make top $ and know which startup to join. The rest will end up at Accenture, writing code and building databases for some tired federal agency, and getting paid $150K/year.

Getting a $150k starting salary with only a bachelors is a huge deal.

Whose getting that!?!

Starting salary at most consulting firms like Bain, McKinsey and Accenture is above $100k plus joining bonus.

One of these things is not like the other.

This is hilarious with Accenture on the list. My H started at Bain after Ivy and his salary was 180k. I was at Lehman (I know, I'm old) and my first year salary with bonus was 220k. This was decades ago.

Maybe Bain Capital, but Bain & Co (the consulting firm) does not and has not ever paid $180k right out of college (not even in the golden years that preceded the financial crisis). Or are you referring to post-MBA comp?

Yeah, marital connections, too!

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Anonymous wrote:The better the college, the less important the major. Easy to find employment as a humanities major if you went to HYP or AWS, much harder if you went to a relatively lower ranked school. Then again, a high percentage of graduates from these top schools go on to graduate school, so having a philosophy or theology degree is less important in terms of income than getting accepted into a top law school.

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Only for the first job. After that it is your work history.

I work with people who went to a large range of undergrad universities and many at the top have average state university degrees.

This is true, as people frequently get into traditionally selective companies (FAANG, Microsoft, consulting firms) as experienced hires years after undergrad. But it can take a while to develop the work experience needed to get there.

I’ve seen mediocre kids who barely got into state school get jobs at Microsoft, Amazon and IBM with family connections.

Anonymous wrote:It amazes me how many many high achieving individuals break from the money worshipping herd and go for public service, non profit or other ideological jobs. What drives them to think and act different?

We both have family $. I went into public service, H is the corporate world.

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Anonymous wrote:It amazes me how many many high achieving individuals break from the money worshipping herd and go for public service, non profit or other ideological jobs. What drives them to think and act different?

The cushion they have to fall back on. Period.

My spouse and I took the safe route. Friends from wealthy parents don’t have to worry that one mishap and they are sleeping in their car because they can’t afford rent.

Nope. I grew up in a family that had little money (dad was a teacher, mom a SAHM) and they've given me very little over the years. Yet I still decided to go into the non-profit field. Why? Because of the particular values my parents instilled in me, which derived from their faith. My spouse, from a MC family, also chose to into public service rather than a higher paying field, because of ideals.

Did I have years where I worked 2 jobs? Yes. Did I spend my 20s eating rama noodles, living in a small apartment, and without a car? Yes. Do I now have the biggest house in a fancy neighborhood? Nope. Does that bother me? No. I love my job, which gives me a lot of personal satisfaction. I earn enough to have a house in a vibrant community, and have savings.

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Anonymous wrote:funny thing is how many board members at my (major) university run big corporations or otherwise make a lot of money and were humanities majors.

Yes, humanities majors from top schools.

DP.. it's the networking and connections through the alumni, not the major.

Yes, which you’re most likely by a mile to get use out of from top schools.

Which is why legacies want to keep legacy admissions, even though getting rid of it would open up more/better opportunities to grads whose families don't have the connections.

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Anonymous wrote:The better the college, the less important the major. Easy to find employment as a humanities major if you went to HYP or AWS, much harder if you went to a relatively lower ranked school. Then again, a high percentage of graduates from these top schools go on to graduate school, so having a philosophy or theology degree is less important in terms of income than getting accepted into a top law school.

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Only for the first job. After that it is your work history.

I work with people who went to a large range of undergrad universities and many at the top have average state university degrees.

This is true, as people frequently get into traditionally selective companies (FAANG, Microsoft, consulting firms) as experienced hires years after undergrad. But it can take a while to develop the work experience needed to get there.

Anonymous wrote:It amazes me how many many high achieving individuals break from the money worshipping herd and go for public service, non profit or other ideological jobs. What drives them to think and act different?

The cushion they have to fall back on. Period.

My spouse and I took the safe route. Friends from wealthy parents don’t have to worry that one mishap and they are sleeping in their car because they can’t afford rent.

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Anonymous wrote:The better the college, the less important the major. Easy to find employment as a humanities major if you went to HYP or AWS, much harder if you went to a relatively lower ranked school. Then again, a high percentage of graduates from these top schools go on to graduate school, so having a philosophy or theology degree is less important in terms of income than getting accepted into a top law school.

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Only for the first job. After that it is your work history.

I work with people who went to a large range of undergrad universities and many at the top have average state university degrees.

Money matters for individuals, ideology matters for all. We should thank and respect people who sacrifice for collective instead of being impressed with people’s cars, homes, vacations and such which is just for themselves.

It amazes me how many many high achieving individuals break from the money worshipping herd and go for public service, non profit or other ideological jobs. What drives them to think and act different?

Anonymous wrote:It’s sad how obsession with money and prestige is narrowing down human potential.

I have the time and money to work in my arts field now because of savings I banked from my previous intense career.

It’s sad how obsession with money and prestige is narrowing down human potential.

Anonymous wrote:There is always a good percentage of people who want to go into public service or non profits, not every student is driven by $$$$$, ideology, empathy, ingenuity, interest and creativity still drives many. Thank goodness for that.

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