Anonymous wrote:These schools do not have a big sports culture -

Northwestern
Vanderbilt
UCLA
Cal
Stanford
Duke
UNC

Rallying around one sport like Duke and UNC does not qualify as a big sports culture. Northwestern and Vanderbilt are solely in their conferences so their commissioners can say they care are about academics. The Pac-12 is the conference of champions of sports nobody cares about or actually watches. Pac-12 has not been relevant in major sports in years.

As if splitting hairs on academic reputation wasn't bad enough ....

These schools do not have a big sports culture -

Northwestern
Vanderbilt
UCLA
Cal
Stanford
Duke
UNC

Rallying around one sport like Duke and UNC does not qualify as a big sports culture. Northwestern and Vanderbilt are solely in their conferences so their commissioners can say they care are about academics. The Pac-12 is the conference of champions of sports nobody cares about or actually watches. Pac-12 has not been relevant in major sports in years.

Anonymous wrote:Why has nobody pointed out that Stanford does not have "sports focus -- like where the whole school gets into it" vibe. People just go to football games to drink and watch the band do stupid stuff. Women's basketball gets a following during playoffs. The average student isn't attending tennis matches or baseball games. We had tons of athletes but the other students don't prioritize watching their games. The swimmers are up early to do their workouts but the rest of the school is sleeping in if they don't have a morning class. You're more likely to watch a campus singing group perform than a game.

I agree. Stanford is superlative all around, but the big sports culture is definitely lacking.

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Anonymous wrote:Florida and MI. It is not even close.

The next tier would be Texas, ND

Vandy, UVA, USC, Berkeley, Northwestern, Duke, and Stanford disqualified for not being big sport schools. Not even remotely big sport schools.

Sorry. Again, the OP said "rigorous" schools. ND has all of these beat and was in top 10 football rankings. Not second tier by any means.

And your head coach still left for a better opportunity at LSU.

LOL, yes, where players are recruited as long as they can sign their name...no academic requirements. Makes Kelly's job easier.

So not that different.

Umm...OK? Maybe lay off the next glass of wine...it's a work night.

In Kelly’s conversation with Sports Illustrated, Notre Dame’s head coach pegged the average GPA of his incoming freshman class at 2.8 with a score of 24 on the ACT.

So true! The dormers actually believe they get smarter athletes than other schools. ND will take the best players available more times than not. That they brag about how high the GPA is of their players is a testament to how easy it is to get a high grade at the school. 2.8 high school students with 24 ACT scores don’t suddenly score 3.4 GPA’s in college. Remember this scandal a few years ago?:

https://nypost.com/2016/11/22/notre-dame-football-punished-for-cheating-scandal/

Academic cheating. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re still at it.

Oh come on, you can't do better than an article from 2016? LOL

6 years ago isn’t ancient history. ND devotees are under the delusion that their program is smarter than everyone else’s. You don’t have a top football program year after year by recruiting “smart” athletes. That they have a fairly recent history of cheating and getting caught only proves that it’s been probably been going on there for many years. Their bragging about having high GPA scores rings hollow with me. Northwestern, on the other hand, is totally believable. Football brought Notre Dane fame and helped to upgrade its profile. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you don’t cheat to get there.

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Anonymous wrote:Florida and MI. It is not even close.

The next tier would be Texas, ND

Vandy, UVA, USC, Berkeley, Northwestern, Duke, and Stanford disqualified for not being big sport schools. Not even remotely big sport schools.

Sorry. Again, the OP said "rigorous" schools. ND has all of these beat and was in top 10 football rankings. Not second tier by any means.

And your head coach still left for a better opportunity at LSU.

LOL, yes, where players are recruited as long as they can sign their name...no academic requirements. Makes Kelly's job easier.

So not that different.

Umm...OK? Maybe lay off the next glass of wine...it's a work night.

In Kelly’s conversation with Sports Illustrated, Notre Dame’s head coach pegged the average GPA of his incoming freshman class at 2.8 with a score of 24 on the ACT.

Not accurate.

2.8 was the high school GPA. 3.4 was the Notre Dame GPA. So Notre Dame is easier than high school.

Stop lying.

No lie.

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford. Not Michigan or Ohio, I went to a game once and people were FIGHTING. Physically.

Passions run very high at most of the elite football schools. Of course those in the DMV area wouldn’t understand that at all.

Holy cow.

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Anonymous wrote:Florida and MI. It is not even close.

The next tier would be Texas, ND

Vandy, UVA, USC, Berkeley, Northwestern, Duke, and Stanford disqualified for not being big sport schools. Not even remotely big sport schools.

Sorry. Again, the OP said "rigorous" schools. ND has all of these beat and was in top 10 football rankings. Not second tier by any means.

And your head coach still left for a better opportunity at LSU.

LOL, yes, where players are recruited as long as they can sign their name...no academic requirements. Makes Kelly's job easier.

So not that different.

Umm...OK? Maybe lay off the next glass of wine...it's a work night.

In Kelly’s conversation with Sports Illustrated, Notre Dame’s head coach pegged the average GPA of his incoming freshman class at 2.8 with a score of 24 on the ACT.

So true! The dormers actually believe they get smarter athletes than other schools. ND will take the best players available more times than not. That they brag about how high the GPA is of their players is a testament to how easy it is to get a high grade at the school. 2.8 high school students with 24 ACT scores don’t suddenly score 3.4 GPA’s in college. Remember this scandal a few years ago?:

https://nypost.com/2016/11/22/notre-dame-football-punished-for-cheating-scandal/

Academic cheating. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re still at it.

Oh come on, you can't do better than an article from 2016? LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Florida and MI. It is not even close.

The next tier would be Texas, ND

Vandy, UVA, USC, Berkeley, Northwestern, Duke, and Stanford disqualified for not being big sport schools. Not even remotely big sport schools.

Sorry. Again, the OP said "rigorous" schools. ND has all of these beat and was in top 10 football rankings. Not second tier by any means.

And your head coach still left for a better opportunity at LSU.

LOL, yes, where players are recruited as long as they can sign their name...no academic requirements. Makes Kelly's job easier.

So not that different.

Umm...OK? Maybe lay off the next glass of wine...it's a work night.

In Kelly’s conversation with Sports Illustrated, Notre Dame’s head coach pegged the average GPA of his incoming freshman class at 2.8 with a score of 24 on the ACT.

Not accurate.

2.8 was the high school GPA. 3.4 was the Notre Dame GPA. So Notre Dame is easier than high school.

Stop lying.

Why has nobody pointed out that Stanford does not have "sports focus -- like where the whole school gets into it" vibe. People just go to football games to drink and watch the band do stupid stuff. Women's basketball gets a following during playoffs. The average student isn't attending tennis matches or baseball games. We had tons of athletes but the other students don't prioritize watching their games. The swimmers are up early to do their workouts but the rest of the school is sleeping in if they don't have a morning class. You're more likely to watch a campus singing group perform than a game.

Anonymous wrote:UNCHEAT had 20 years of academic fraud for both athletes and regular students.

That’s true. Still doesn’t excuse ND.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a niece and nephew who both attended Northwestern as scholarship athletes. They were excellent students as well. Both would also have attended Michigan over NU if they were recruited by the school. Both would also have been excellent students at Michigan. Northwestern gets better students overall in their sports because most of them weren’t good enough to play for higher rated teams.

Hahahaha, sure Jan, sure.

You need to apologize to whoever Jan is. I also stand by my statement.

Anonymous wrote:UNCHEAT had 20 years of academic fraud for both athletes and regular students.

Still better than Duke.

UNCHEAT had 20 years of academic fraud for both athletes and regular students.

Anonymous wrote:I have a niece and nephew who both attended Northwestern as scholarship athletes. They were excellent students as well. Both would also have attended Michigan over NU if they were recruited by the school. Both would also have been excellent students at Michigan. Northwestern gets better students overall in their sports because most of them weren’t good enough to play for higher rated teams.

Hahahaha, sure Jan, sure.

Anonymous wrote:Stanford. Not Michigan or Ohio, I went to a game once and people were FIGHTING. Physically.

Passions run very high at most of the elite football schools. Of course those in the DMV area wouldn’t understand that at all.