Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 12:53     Subject: Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of BS stuff about social emotional learning and nothing about how they are going to close the achievement gap and the learning loss.


plan is to lower the standards enough so that everyone can perform at same level. Highly abled need to slow down and chill out. not work so hard on subjects so that others can catch up.


This is a false narrative designed to sow seeds of dissent among different groups within MCPS. We need to collaborate as a community and work together to solve myriad issues within MCPS. The Princeton-bound kid is not suffering because another child is 15 and functionally illiterate. Both are important for the future of our community.


Agree sure I hear this all the time BUT my own kids have had many wonderful opportunities to achieve and be challenged. One had around 30 college credits from APs and the other is on track to do similarly.


We're also happy. Many just enjoy complaining, but in my experience, MCPS is made up of many teachers and administrators who have gone above and beyond to put kids first.


+1. This board would have you believing MCPS is horrible. Its not. Sure there are a few bad apples here and there but that would be true anywhere. Are there things that MCPS can improve upon, sure but this is true anywhere. Whats really needed is community engagement, support, and effort. But many just like engaging in complaint. Ask them to run for the school PTA, MCCPTA, attend community meetings about BOE and county council candidates, or do extra homework/practice with their kids and you’ll get crickets.


Crickets who do all that you listed and end up with a child behind years and needing remediation to go to college. Why don't you pull up the numbers for what happens when MCPS children graduate. The data doesn't lie.


+1 MSDE and OCR have open cases before them for discrimination and retaliation against students and families. Letters of Findings are being handed down and Resolution Agreements have been signed by MCPS for violations that students are deserving of remediation. Many students have waited two schools years for remedies and MCPS is still dragging its feet with compliance.

Current Pending OCR Cases: https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/investigations/open-investigations/index.html

* search by protected class and state

The Letters of Findings and Resolution Agreements are accessible with a FOIA request.

These are data points to show how little MCPS puts students first and how they discriminate against students. The deceptive practices and retaliation families have experienced will cause these crickets to complain till MCPS becomes compliant.

I guess MCPS needs to hire a bunch more central office staff.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 11:32     Subject: Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of BS stuff about social emotional learning and nothing about how they are going to close the achievement gap and the learning loss.


plan is to lower the standards enough so that everyone can perform at same level. Highly abled need to slow down and chill out. not work so hard on subjects so that others can catch up.


This is a false narrative designed to sow seeds of dissent among different groups within MCPS. We need to collaborate as a community and work together to solve myriad issues within MCPS. The Princeton-bound kid is not suffering because another child is 15 and functionally illiterate. Both are important for the future of our community.


Agree sure I hear this all the time BUT my own kids have had many wonderful opportunities to achieve and be challenged. One had around 30 college credits from APs and the other is on track to do similarly.


We're also happy. Many just enjoy complaining, but in my experience, MCPS is made up of many teachers and administrators who have gone above and beyond to put kids first.


+1. This board would have you believing MCPS is horrible. Its not. Sure there are a few bad apples here and there but that would be true anywhere. Are there things that MCPS can improve upon, sure but this is true anywhere. Whats really needed is community engagement, support, and effort. But many just like engaging in complaint. Ask them to run for the school PTA, MCCPTA, attend community meetings about BOE and county council candidates, or do extra homework/practice with their kids and you’ll get crickets.


Exactly, then they'll sock puppet a torrent of posts on their pet issue drowning out any dissent.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 11:31     Subject: Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of BS stuff about social emotional learning and nothing about how they are going to close the achievement gap and the learning loss.


plan is to lower the standards enough so that everyone can perform at same level. Highly abled need to slow down and chill out. not work so hard on subjects so that others can catch up.


This is a false narrative designed to sow seeds of dissent among different groups within MCPS. We need to collaborate as a community and work together to solve myriad issues within MCPS. The Princeton-bound kid is not suffering because another child is 15 and functionally illiterate. Both are important for the future of our community.


Agree sure I hear this all the time BUT my own kids have had many wonderful opportunities to achieve and be challenged. One had around 30 college credits from APs and the other is on track to do similarly.


We're also happy. Many just enjoy complaining, but in my experience, MCPS is made up of many teachers and administrators who have gone above and beyond to put kids first.


+1. This board would have you believing MCPS is horrible. Its not. Sure there are a few bad apples here and there but that would be true anywhere. Are there things that MCPS can improve upon, sure but this is true anywhere. Whats really needed is community engagement, support, and effort. But many just like engaging in complaint. Ask them to run for the school PTA, MCCPTA, attend community meetings about BOE and county council candidates, or do extra homework/practice with their kids and you’ll get crickets.


Crickets who do all that you listed and end up with a child behind years and needing remediation to go to college. Why don't you pull up the numbers for what happens when MCPS children graduate. The data doesn't lie.


+1 MSDE and OCR have open cases before them for discrimination and retaliation against students and families. Letters of Findings are being handed down and Resolution Agreements have been signed by MCPS for violations that students are deserving of remediation. Many students have waited two schools years for remedies and MCPS is still dragging its feet with compliance.

Current Pending OCR Cases: https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/investigations/open-investigations/index.html

* search by protected class and state

The Letters of Findings and Resolution Agreements are accessible with a FOIA request.

These are data points to show how little MCPS puts students first and how they discriminate against students. The deceptive practices and retaliation families have experienced will cause these crickets to complain till MCPS becomes compliant.


Unbelievable! What about putting these students first?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 11:14     Subject: Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lot of BS stuff about social emotional learning and nothing about how they are going to close the achievement gap and the learning loss.


plan is to lower the standards enough so that everyone can perform at same level. Highly abled need to slow down and chill out. not work so hard on subjects so that others can catch up.


This is a false narrative designed to sow seeds of dissent among different groups within MCPS. We need to collaborate as a community and work together to solve myriad issues within MCPS. The Princeton-bound kid is not suffering because another child is 15 and functionally illiterate. Both are important for the future of our community.


Agree sure I hear this all the time BUT my own kids have had many wonderful opportunities to achieve and be challenged. One had around 30 college credits from APs and the other is on track to do similarly.


We're also happy. Many just enjoy complaining, but in my experience, MCPS is made up of many teachers and administrators who have gone above and beyond to put kids first.


+1. This board would have you believing MCPS is horrible. Its not. Sure there are a few bad apples here and there but that would be true anywhere. Are there things that MCPS can improve upon, sure but this is true anywhere. Whats really needed is community engagement, support, and effort. But many just like engaging in complaint. Ask them to run for the school PTA, MCCPTA, attend community meetings about BOE and county council candidates, or do extra homework/practice with their kids and you’ll get crickets.


Crickets who do all that you listed and end up with a child behind years and needing remediation to go to college. Why don't you pull up the numbers for what happens when MCPS children graduate. The data doesn't lie.


+1 MSDE and OCR have open cases before them for discrimination and retaliation against students and families. Letters of Findings are being handed down and Resolution Agreements have been signed by MCPS for violations that students are deserving of remediation. Many students have waited two schools years for remedies and MCPS is still dragging its feet with compliance.

Current Pending OCR Cases: https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/investigations/open-investigations/index.html

* search by protected class and state

The Letters of Findings and Resolution Agreements are accessible with a FOIA request.

These are data points to show how little MCPS puts students first and how they discriminate against students. The deceptive practices and retaliation families have experienced will cause these crickets to complain till MCPS becomes compliant.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 11:04     Subject: Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Lot of BS stuff about social emotional learning and nothing about how they are going to close the achievement gap and the learning loss.


plan is to lower the standards enough so that everyone can perform at same level. Highly abled need to slow down and chill out. not work so hard on subjects so that others can catch up.


This is a false narrative designed to sow seeds of dissent among different groups within MCPS. We need to collaborate as a community and work together to solve myriad issues within MCPS. The Princeton-bound kid is not suffering because another child is 15 and functionally illiterate. Both are important for the future of our community.


Agree sure I hear this all the time BUT my own kids have had many wonderful opportunities to achieve and be challenged. One had around 30 college credits from APs and the other is on track to do similarly.


We're also happy. Many just enjoy complaining, but in my experience, MCPS is made up of many teachers and administrators who have gone above and beyond to put kids first.


+1. This board would have you believing MCPS is horrible. Its not. Sure there are a few bad apples here and there but that would be true anywhere. Are there things that MCPS can improve upon, sure but this is true anywhere. Whats really needed is community engagement, support, and effort. But many just like engaging in complaint. Ask them to run for the school PTA, MCCPTA, attend community meetings about BOE and county council candidates, or do extra homework/practice with their kids and you’ll get crickets.


Crickets who do all that you listed and end up with a child behind years and needing remediation to go to college. Why don't you pull up the numbers for what happens when MCPS children graduate. The data doesn't lie.


Yes pull up data. Data is a really interesting thing, in that if you don’t understand it, the source and how it was sliced it can make you believe a lot of things. So please, show us the data of all these families monitoring their kids K-12 education, being involved in the school community and running for PTA board whose kid graduated and then needed remedial classes in college. I’ll wait…..
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 10:58     Subject: Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lot of BS stuff about social emotional learning and nothing about how they are going to close the achievement gap and the learning loss.


plan is to lower the standards enough so that everyone can perform at same level. Highly abled need to slow down and chill out. not work so hard on subjects so that others can catch up.


This is a false narrative designed to sow seeds of dissent among different groups within MCPS. We need to collaborate as a community and work together to solve myriad issues within MCPS. The Princeton-bound kid is not suffering because another child is 15 and functionally illiterate. Both are important for the future of our community.


Agree sure I hear this all the time BUT my own kids have had many wonderful opportunities to achieve and be challenged. One had around 30 college credits from APs and the other is on track to do similarly.


We're also happy. Many just enjoy complaining, but in my experience, MCPS is made up of many teachers and administrators who have gone above and beyond to put kids first.


+1. This board would have you believing MCPS is horrible. Its not. Sure there are a few bad apples here and there but that would be true anywhere. Are there things that MCPS can improve upon, sure but this is true anywhere. Whats really needed is community engagement, support, and effort. But many just like engaging in complaint. Ask them to run for the school PTA, MCCPTA, attend community meetings about BOE and county council candidates, or do extra homework/practice with their kids and you’ll get crickets.


Crickets who do all that you listed and end up with a child behind years and needing remediation to go to college. Why don't you pull up the numbers for what happens when MCPS children graduate. The data doesn't lie.


Only if someone care to look at the data. No one looks at it and they will continue to discourage parents from looking at it.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 10:38     Subject: Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lot of BS stuff about social emotional learning and nothing about how they are going to close the achievement gap and the learning loss.


plan is to lower the standards enough so that everyone can perform at same level. Highly abled need to slow down and chill out. not work so hard on subjects so that others can catch up.


This is a false narrative designed to sow seeds of dissent among different groups within MCPS. We need to collaborate as a community and work together to solve myriad issues within MCPS. The Princeton-bound kid is not suffering because another child is 15 and functionally illiterate. Both are important for the future of our community.


Agree sure I hear this all the time BUT my own kids have had many wonderful opportunities to achieve and be challenged. One had around 30 college credits from APs and the other is on track to do similarly.


We're also happy. Many just enjoy complaining, but in my experience, MCPS is made up of many teachers and administrators who have gone above and beyond to put kids first.


+1. This board would have you believing MCPS is horrible. Its not. Sure there are a few bad apples here and there but that would be true anywhere. Are there things that MCPS can improve upon, sure but this is true anywhere. Whats really needed is community engagement, support, and effort. But many just like engaging in complaint. Ask them to run for the school PTA, MCCPTA, attend community meetings about BOE and county council candidates, or do extra homework/practice with their kids and you’ll get crickets.


Crickets who do all that you listed and end up with a child behind years and needing remediation to go to college. Why don't you pull up the numbers for what happens when MCPS children graduate. The data doesn't lie.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 10:13     Subject: Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lot of BS stuff about social emotional learning and nothing about how they are going to close the achievement gap and the learning loss.


plan is to lower the standards enough so that everyone can perform at same level. Highly abled need to slow down and chill out. not work so hard on subjects so that others can catch up.


This is a false narrative designed to sow seeds of dissent among different groups within MCPS. We need to collaborate as a community and work together to solve myriad issues within MCPS. The Princeton-bound kid is not suffering because another child is 15 and functionally illiterate. Both are important for the future of our community.


Agree sure I hear this all the time BUT my own kids have had many wonderful opportunities to achieve and be challenged. One had around 30 college credits from APs and the other is on track to do similarly.


We're also happy. Many just enjoy complaining, but in my experience, MCPS is made up of many teachers and administrators who have gone above and beyond to put kids first.


+1. This board would have you believing MCPS is horrible. Its not. Sure there are a few bad apples here and there but that would be true anywhere. Are there things that MCPS can improve upon, sure but this is true anywhere. Whats really needed is community engagement, support, and effort. But many just like engaging in complaint. Ask them to run for the school PTA, MCCPTA, attend community meetings about BOE and county council candidates, or do extra homework/practice with their kids and you’ll get crickets.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 07:35     Subject: Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lot of BS stuff about social emotional learning and nothing about how they are going to close the achievement gap and the learning loss.


plan is to lower the standards enough so that everyone can perform at same level. Highly abled need to slow down and chill out. not work so hard on subjects so that others can catch up.


This is a false narrative designed to sow seeds of dissent among different groups within MCPS. We need to collaborate as a community and work together to solve myriad issues within MCPS. The Princeton-bound kid is not suffering because another child is 15 and functionally illiterate. Both are important for the future of our community.


Agree sure I hear this all the time BUT my own kids have had many wonderful opportunities to achieve and be challenged. One had around 30 college credits from APs and the other is on track to do similarly.


We're also happy. Many just enjoy complaining, but in my experience, MCPS is made up of many teachers and administrators who have gone above and beyond to put kids first.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 06:56     Subject: Re:Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

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Anonymous wrote:Name a staff member who puts students first. I challenge someone to provide a concrete example.

"puts students first" in a list of what, exactly? Everything? LOL.


How about she starts with the Complaints from the Public? Maybe the open DofEd OCR cases? Why did she, in my opinion, blatantly discriminate against the Asian community in the magnet program? She and the board even went so far as to sign off on a clear case of discrimination where an AA magnet kid's grades were tampered with when the parent clearly documented the discriminatory techniques used. That P and teacher are still there. Lucky for her it never made the press.

She has a history of AA (and only AA, but not all AA - just her friends) first. Those are the ONLY students she cares about, imho.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 06:37     Subject: Re:Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

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Anonymous wrote:Name a staff member who puts students first. I challenge someone to provide a concrete example.

"puts students first" in a list of what, exactly? Everything? LOL.


I guess ask Dr. McKnight. It’s her slogan.

However, as a parent of a student with a disability, every IEP meeting this year has failed to put his needs first. He needed support in a class but was denied because the school doesn’t support the class with support staff. My child qualified for compensatory services. We have been waiting five months for services to begin. My child has been bullied which interferes with his engagement at school and desirability to attend school. School staff did nothing to stop the bullying or even apply restorative justice practices. My child has gaps in learning from online learning but his teachers are not helping to fill in the gaps so his track of progression has stalled.

Dr. McKnight has had the putting students first as a slogan since July. My question how have MCPS staff been trained to put the slogan into practice?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 06:28     Subject: Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lot of BS stuff about social emotional learning and nothing about how they are going to close the achievement gap and the learning loss.


plan is to lower the standards enough so that everyone can perform at same level. Highly abled need to slow down and chill out. not work so hard on subjects so that others can catch up.


This is a false narrative designed to sow seeds of dissent among different groups within MCPS. We need to collaborate as a community and work together to solve myriad issues within MCPS. The Princeton-bound kid is not suffering because another child is 15 and functionally illiterate. Both are important for the future of our community.

So, then why wasn't any of the learning loss or achievement gap issues addressed?


The kids who struggled often were the ones who did not participate so calling it learning loss is a bit deceiving. But, yes, the princeton bound child is suffering, especially in ES and MS when their needs aren't met and they only get basic classes in English and other areas.

Then they had even more learning loss. Even MCPS found that virtual caused an even larger achievement gap.

I don't understand why that is not a priority for a school district.


Virtual worked well for my kids but they also had involved parents.


By involved are you saying that you don’t have a child with a disability who was denied services and accommodations and you also had a parent who didn’t have a job to supervise the child all day?

Great for you but your ignorant post doesn’t reflect that many students who struggled with online learning also had involved parents.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 23:07     Subject: Re:Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

Anonymous wrote:Name a staff member who puts students first. I challenge someone to provide a concrete example.

"puts students first" in a list of what, exactly? Everything? LOL.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 22:06     Subject: Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lot of BS stuff about social emotional learning and nothing about how they are going to close the achievement gap and the learning loss.


plan is to lower the standards enough so that everyone can perform at same level. Highly abled need to slow down and chill out. not work so hard on subjects so that others can catch up.


This is a false narrative designed to sow seeds of dissent among different groups within MCPS. We need to collaborate as a community and work together to solve myriad issues within MCPS. The Princeton-bound kid is not suffering because another child is 15 and functionally illiterate. Both are important for the future of our community.

So, then why wasn't any of the learning loss or achievement gap issues addressed?


The kids who struggled often were the ones who did not participate so calling it learning loss is a bit deceiving. But, yes, the princeton bound child is suffering, especially in ES and MS when their needs aren't met and they only get basic classes in English and other areas.

Then they had even more learning loss. Even MCPS found that virtual caused an even larger achievement gap.

I don't understand why that is not a priority for a school district.


Virtual worked well for my kids but they also had involved parents.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2022 22:00     Subject: Re:Putting Students First Community Engagement Events

Name a staff member who puts students first. I challenge someone to provide a concrete example.