Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The link didn't work for me but this one does:https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/we-are-reinstating-our-sat-act-requirement-for-future-admissions-cycles/Yes, it makes hiring so much easier. We have to thoroughly test applicants ourselves from more racist, cultural fit type colleges in IT as they have just been good at taking nine classes and dropping all but the gut classes. The objective result also helps us find often overlooked, underrepresented candidates from poorer more disadvantaged areas who put the work in individually. A wonderful reprieve after having to deal with an enormous ego and corresponding finger-pointing to deal with the "shock" of how weak they really are in spite of their genitalia/skin/daddy/delusion. MIT using data-driven correlation for more fair entry is awesome!Anonymous wrote:good
I can definitely believe that MIT found that requiring the SAT helped better select high school students who will do well at MIT.
But for companies hiring MIT graduates, wouldn't grades and internships and research tell you way more about the applicant than a single test taken in high school? That is, even if the admissions office picked some students who won't do well in college, can't employees tell who didn't do well in college?
Well I think you're the only one asking this question, but in fact DE Shaw famously has required all standardized test scores as part of their hiring process. Don't know if they still do. What do you think -- do you think the SAT still has predictive power for applicant quality controlling for other observables? Personally, I suspect that it does.
Interesting bc the Shaw dad actually gave multi-million dollar donations to multiple Ivies to ensure his kids could get in. The ‘22 grad chose Yale. Guess his own kids don’t need those pesky standardized tests.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:See Harvard.
Test optional will be much more prevalent.
Nope. Test optional will begin to disappear.
It was a trend that was never going to catch on for the masses.
Harvard and pretty much the entire California public college system disagrees.
One highly rejective college reverting back to a standardized test. Not exactly earth shattering news.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:See Harvard.
Test optional will be much more prevalent.
People can slide through Harvard without actually being smart. That's much more difficult at a school like MIT, or alot of other schools. I think more schools will be returning to test required.
How many times does this have to be explained to you: standardized admissions tests do not measure intelligence.
And, you need much more than intelligence to do well in college.
IQ test should be part of the package
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:See Harvard.
Test optional will be much more prevalent.
People can slide through Harvard without actually being smart. That's much more difficult at a school like MIT, or alot of other schools. I think more schools will be returning to test required.
How many times does this have to be explained to you: standardized admissions tests do not measure intelligence.
And, you need much more than intelligence to do well in college.
IQ test should be part of the package
Tell that to my “highly gifted” 20-something cousin who is the laziest human I’ve ever known. He works 20 hours a week at a grocery store and smokes pot in his mom’s basement.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The SAT is highly correlated to household income.
The majority of MIT students come from high income households.
Not surprised.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FO9NAQFXsAkMWK3?format=jpg&name=large
Well, kind of. It’s actually correlated to parental education which tends to be correlated with SES.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The SAT is highly correlated to household income.
The majority of MIT students come from high income households.
Not surprised.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FO9NAQFXsAkMWK3?format=jpg&name=large
Well, kind of. It’s actually correlated to parental education which tends to be correlated with SES.
Not always the case. Parent (NMF) admitted to MIT from a working class family.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:See Harvard.
Test optional will be much more prevalent.
Nope. Test optional will begin to disappear.
It was a trend that was never going to catch on for the masses.
Harvard and pretty much the entire California public college system disagrees.
One highly rejective college reverting back to a standardized test. Not exactly earth shattering news.
I believe Princeton has said it is going back to test required for the class of 2024. Let’s see what the next few weeks bring.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The SAT is highly correlated to household income.
The majority of MIT students come from high income households.
Not surprised.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FO9NAQFXsAkMWK3?format=jpg&name=large
Well, kind of. It’s actually correlated to parental education which tends to be correlated with SES.
Not always the case. Parent (NMF) admitted to MIT from a working class family.
correlation doesn't mean 100%
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:See Harvard.
Test optional will be much more prevalent.
People can slide through Harvard without actually being smart. That's much more difficult at a school like MIT, or alot of other schools. I think more schools will be returning to test required.
How many times does this have to be explained to you: standardized admissions tests do not measure intelligence.
And, you need much more than intelligence to do well in college.
IQ test should be part of the package