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Anonymous wrote:This is going around FB today

Virginia’s new Governor Youngkin has established a tip line to report teachers. I recommend you report:
- Who was your favorite teacher and what did they teach?
- What teacher had the most positive impact on your life?
-What does your child like about their current teacher?
- How has your school or your child’s school had a positive impact on your life?
- What are some of your fondest memories about school?
You can report these to: helpeducation@governor.virginia.gov
And be sure to #ThankATeacher 🙏🏽

This is a really juvenile way to handle what is should be treated in a serious manner, given its seriousness. Maybe someday when we act like adults and protest like adults, our society will start to function again.

Setting up a hotline so parents can complain that the history curriculum doesn't just cover white people and demand various books be banned isn't a serious endeavour and shouldn't be treated as such.

It reminds me of when Trump tried to set up a hotline so people could report suspected illegals living in their neighbourhood.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems are not banning racisim, but rather calling it out when it is expressed. People are free to show their ignorance however they wish. But they are also responsible for their words and actions.

There is a difference between that and curtailing speech in school that is associated with teaching about slavery and MLK.

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No nit me. OP’s post is TLDNR. You realize you are defending the governor of a state creating a tip line for political thought? You really need to get some awareness of the way the world works. Youngkin is not long for Virginia. The next governor will be a democrats and he or she may keep the line but use it against your party. You cool with that?

Actually, he is trying to stop inappropriate indoctrination in the classroom. Where would you suggest parents go with their complaints?

Who defines what that means?

PS. You are not well. Get some help.

Pot, meet kettle. JFC.
DP

The tip line is “for parents to send us any instances where they feel their fundamental rights are being violated, where their children are not being respected [and] where there are inherently divisive practices in their schools.”

A Dem could have said this, and it would be perfectly fine by most here.

No Dem would say that. We don’t want a police state that panders to ignorant racists. It’s not remotely the Governor’s job to set up a fascist operation to ban black points of view from schools.

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No nit me. OP’s post is TLDNR. You realize you are defending the governor of a state creating a tip line for political thought? You really need to get some awareness of the way the world works. Youngkin is not long for Virginia. The next governor will be a democrats and he or she may keep the line but use it against your party. You cool with that?

Actually, he is trying to stop inappropriate indoctrination in the classroom. Where would you suggest parents go with their complaints?

Who defines what that means?

PS. You are not well. Get some help.

Pot, meet kettle. JFC.
DP

The tip line is “for parents to send us any instances where they feel their fundamental rights are being violated, where their children are not being respected [and] where there are inherently divisive practices in their schools.”

A Dem could have said this, and it would be perfectly fine by most here.

Anonymous wrote:The 1984 references are rich, given leftists are turning in 'unmasked disease-ridden people' in droves in DC

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Anonymous wrote:You can debate education policy all you want. The fact that there is a line where you report people who think differently to the government should really give you pause.

Get real. OP said Thought Crime. It just leaves it open to report indoctrination in the classroom. Not personal beliefs. In other words, you cannot say ACAB.

How about if someone says Blue Lives Matter? They'll be investigated and disciplined, right?

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Exactly. The "truth" is usually much more nuanced than what is taught in our schools. Schools should be teaching critical thinking skills, not circumscribing the bounds of acceptable thought.

This is true, but you cannot teach all the nuance in elementary school.

Thanksgiving in schools traditionally has revolved around the Pilgrim story. There is some truth to it--they did have a Thanksgiving and Indigenous people did help them learn to do some farming. They did come for religious freedom, as well. Was Thanksgiving a happy harvest feast with the Indians? Probably not. But there is some basis to the story.

Same with a lot of the other "facts" listed. Some basis. Not necessarily the whole truth. Columbus was an important figure and I'm pretty sure I learned that he never really got to mainland "America." I always thought that he "discovered" the world was round as his claim to fame. And, that was because he was headed to India and ran into America.

As for "isolationism," there is also some truth to that. We did not enter war until we were attacked by Japan. But, we did have "Lend/Lease."

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Anonymous wrote:I could see this result in a mass exodus of teachers,

It will undermine the entire public school system, at least in places like Fairfax...which of course, is what the GOP wants.

Parents could and have brought to light problems with teachers before.

Teachers are employees, and accountable to the people who employ them... and they can't say anything they want in class, just like I can't at work either.

Oh, I’m comfortable with teachers not being accountable to white hood wearing jerks. I want my children to get an education, not a RWNJ indoctrination.

Yes, all those white hood wearing jerks in NOVA. Look what they're trying to do. Live in reality, it will help you.

Exactly. The "truth" is usually much more nuanced than what is taught in our schools. Schools should be teaching critical thinking skills, not circumscribing the bounds of acceptable thought.

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Anonymous wrote:I will call in my objection to the following "facts" being taught in our public schools:

--Columbus "discovered" America
--the first Thanksgiving was a peaceful gathering
--the first European settlers came here for religious freedom
--the civil war was fought to end slavery
--America was isolationist between WWI and WWII
--slavery existed mostly in southern states

That's a weird mix of things. This may be closer to the truth:

- Columbus wasn't the discoverer, not even the first European.

- Thanksgiving is a mess, yes, there needs to be better teaching for this

- The first European settlers came here to try and exploit new lands. Some fled religious oppression by others but weren't exactly proponents of religious freedom either.

- Civil war was fought for a number of reasons, but one reason was *definitely* slavery. Just look at the contemporary debates leading up to the Civil War in Congress, the Missouri Compromise, Bleeding Kansas, the violent attack on abolitionist Senator Sumner by southern pro-slave Preston Brooks, and so on.

- America wasn't "isolationist" - it had muddled international goals and objectives, some companies and industrialists were invested in Nazi Germany at the time.

- Slavery existed at some point in all states, nobody denies that - but in 1790, the overwhelming majority of slaves were concentrated in the south, with most in Virginia and South Carolina, and then slavery expanded further west and south, whereas by the 1820s, well prior to the civil war it was largely phased out in the northern states. It's also a common misconception that white people were all slaveowners. Even at the peak of slavery in 1840, less than 10% of whites owned slaves.