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Anonymous wrote:I tend to think there’s either something wrong with Charles or something wrong with Queen Elizabeth. She treats him like dirt making him sit on the sidelines while she celebrates her 75th “Jubilee”. There’s a time to step aside.

Eh. The thing that is “wrong” with him is that he is a thin skinned and charmless man. And she knows that the whole shebang is going to become a lot less popular when she’s gone.

Anonymous wrote:I know I'm in the minority but my ex cheated on me and I deeply understand the pain it causes. Independent of all other circumstances, she deeply hurt Diana, William and Harry who are innocent parties. I could never do that. I'm sure most of you couldn't, either. It's truly scumbag behavior.

Anonymous wrote:I’m neutral to slightly positive. I strongly disliked her during the Diana days but have realized she and Charles were the victims of time and circumstances beyond their control. I admire her for taking a backseat, not seeking the limelight and paying her dues with her charity work, unlike the Meghan Markles of the world. She’s never complained publicly and has always been supportive of the BRF, even though they treated her like a second-class citizen for years and didn’t consider her good enough to be a marriage prospect for Charles. She held her head high despite being one of the most despised woman in the world. You’ve got to admire her for that, if nothing else.

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Anonymous wrote:All else aside, I think Charles is besotted with her and always has been. She's luckier than most of us will ever be.

I read he was cheating on her at one point.

PP is delusional. He was banging a bunch of women and then decided to marry someone way younger than Camila. And even when he was getting a divorce Camilla still had to worry he would ditch her for the boys nanny. Charles is a hoe whose libido simply decreased with age.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm neutral on her. The whole situation was incredibly messed up and the result of Charles and Diana being trapped by life circumstances beyond their control based on incredibly old-fashioned strictures that applied to no one else on the planet and should have died off in the early 19th century. And in fact did start dying off shortly after Charles and Diana became trapped by them. Under literally any other circumstances, they would never have married. And they were both emotionally messed up by those same strictures. It was never going to be anything other than what it was. This stuff has always gone on, it's just we know more about it now with the state of the media. George IV, for example, was totally debauched. Camilla was just a side show.


I pity Charles, honestly. Money doesn't buy happiness. He has his houses and his Aston Martins and whatever but those are ornaments on a life of basically aimless waiting. 73 years worth of loitering. He's older than most reigning European monarchs and is still waiting. There's a photo of him with the Spanish royals on Mallorca in the '80s, almost 40 years old and sitting near a teenaged Prince Felipe. Well, Felipe VI has been on the throne for 8 years now and Charles is still waiting. Same deal with Willem-Alexander. That must be really galling.

+1 to the bolded. These aren't the circumstances of almost any other marriage on the planet.

I used to dislike Camilla, but then I warmed to her when she and Charles married. It was clearly love. She's his rock. He seems to have his own rigid way of doing things and she accommodates him in a way that most women wouldn't. She does her work and doesn't complain or stir up drama. She gets that it's an institution and her job is to fit in. Like other pp's, I strongly prefer someone like this to a Markle manipulator who expects everything to change for her or a nitwit, unstable, dishonest Harry who takes, takes, takes, but then plans a coup when he's expected to do his job and play by the rules in return.

That said, I don't really like anyone in the BRF except possibly Kate Middleton.

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Anonymous wrote:Could Charles be essentially skipped over for William??

Does Charles even want to be king? Does William for that matter? Maybe they’ll just dissolve the whole antiquated institution when the queen passes.

Can’t be skipped. Plus once they start monkeying with everything people might start questioning whether having a RF is worth it. There biggest asset is history and tradition.

Anonymous wrote:I'm neutral on her. The whole situation was incredibly messed up and the result of Charles and Diana being trapped by life circumstances beyond their control based on incredibly old-fashioned strictures that applied to no one else on the planet and should have died off in the early 19th century. And in fact did start dying off shortly after Charles and Diana became trapped by them. Under literally any other circumstances, they would never have married. And they were both emotionally messed up by those same strictures. It was never going to be anything other than what it was. This stuff has always gone on, it's just we know more about it now with the state of the media. George IV, for example, was totally debauched. Camilla was just a side show.


I pity Charles, honestly. Money doesn't buy happiness. He has his houses and his Aston Martins and whatever but those are ornaments on a life of basically aimless waiting. 73 years worth of loitering. He's older than most reigning European monarchs and is still waiting. There's a photo of him with the Spanish royals on Mallorca in the '80s, almost 40 years old and sitting near a teenaged Prince Felipe. Well, Felipe VI has been on the throne for 8 years now and Charles is still waiting. Same deal with Willem-Alexander. That must be really galling.

Anonymous wrote:Could Charles be essentially skipped over for William??

Does Charles even want to be king? Does William for that matter? Maybe they’ll just dissolve the whole antiquated institution when the queen passes.

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Anonymous wrote:All else aside, I think Charles is besotted with her and always has been. She's luckier than most of us will ever be.

I read he was cheating on her at one point.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I'm in the minority but my ex cheated on me and I deeply understand the pain it causes. Independent of all other circumstances, she deeply hurt Diana, William and Harry who are innocent parties. I could never do that. I'm sure most of you couldn't, either. It's truly scumbag behavior.

Yep. Spot on.

+1 she is and will always be the other woman/marriage wrecker.

PC doesn’t get off Scott free. This thread just isn’t about him.

But Diana had multiple affairs with married men.

Anonymous wrote:I think Charles was pretty obsessed with Camilla, but I'm honestly not sure she felt the same way. I honestly think she might've felt like it was her duty to keep the relationship (with the future King) alive if that's what he wanted. I'm not sure she really likes him that much (he's a very awkward person).

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Anonymous wrote:Neutral. I think that there has been a lot of whitewashing about her and Charles’ story. Namely that she was one of a bunch of other women in the picture and she was more or less the last one standing. I also think that she chose to marry Bowles because she preferred him to Charles and that she really only picked back up with Charles because her husband was boning his sister. That said I think Camilla and Charles are well matched. And Camilla knows to stay in her lane in a way neither Kate or Meghan do. She also works a lot which is admirable.

Hang on, what??

Anonymous wrote:I tend to think there’s either something wrong with Charles or something wrong with Queen Elizabeth. She treats him like dirt making him sit on the sidelines while she celebrates her 75th “Jubilee”. There’s a time to step aside.

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Anonymous wrote:She is immoral:cheating on her husband, and with a married man. Doing that to a young girl, who was in love and trying to start a family. I have zero respect for her…and a long memory.

Cheating is repugnant in any case, but the bolded is so

Oh come on. I agree cheating is repugnant but it’s different if everyone agrees they’re in an arrangement. No one told Diana she was in one.