Anonymous
Post 01/11/2022 13:35     Subject: Re:So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are fine. I had my first for medical reasons and had a scheduled C for my second by choice.


No, not “they are fine.” They can be fine. And if you had one that you would describe as “fine,” you should be grateful for it, but aware that you got lucky.


Really? I think the majority are fine. I would never elect for one without medical necessity, but no need to fear monger.

I had two. With my first, I never went into labor and my cervix never dilated, and it was 12 days after my due date. They offered to induce labor but were clear that I was likely to end up with an emergency c-section anyway. It turned out that my baby was happily floating in an abundance of amniotic fluid so labor wouldn’t have occurred in its own.

The second was a scheduled c-section because a VBAC would’ve had a low likelihood of success. I’m grateful we made that choice because when they went in they discovered a hole in my uterus that would have made natural childbirth very dangerous.


You were fine, so all C-sections are smooth with no complications, and to say otherwise is to fear-monger. Got it. So your experience = valid and mine = not valid. Got it.


That's not what PP said. She said "the majority are fine" and then shared her experiences. People are allowed to share their experiences. Your bad experience doesn't make everyone's experience bad. I'm sorry you have lasting trauma from your c-section, perhaps you need to see a counselor to get over that.


NP. Wow. And the Women Supporting Women Poster of the Day goes to...well, not you. You really just said that? Are you proud of yourself?
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2022 13:34     Subject: So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we can't just all share our experiences and not yell at other people about theirs.

Oh, yes, I do, because the sanctimommies out there who think the way they did it is right.



That's the way it is here in the DC bubble. Whether you are far left or far right, your way is the right way, the only way. No discussion needed because you are an idiot if you disagree with me

We are soon moving back to the midwest where most people have brains, not just opinions. Will be a breath of fresh air.


The Midwest? LOL
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 18:30     Subject: So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we can't just all share our experiences and not yell at other people about theirs.

Oh, yes, I do, because the sanctimommies out there who think the way they did it is right.



That's the way it is here in the DC bubble. Whether you are far left or far right, your way is the right way, the only way. No discussion needed because you are an idiot if you disagree with me

We are soon moving back to the midwest where most people have brains, not just opinions. Will be a breath of fresh air.


I enjoyed my time in the Midwest but the locals were hardly the intelligentsia.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2022 15:00     Subject: So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we can't just all share our experiences and not yell at other people about theirs.

Oh, yes, I do, because the sanctimommies out there who think the way they did it is right.



That's the way it is here in the DC bubble. Whether you are far left or far right, your way is the right way, the only way. No discussion needed because you are an idiot if you disagree with me

We are soon moving back to the midwest where most people have brains, not just opinions. Will be a breath of fresh air.


LOL
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 20:17     Subject: So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
If I could have had uncomplicated vaginal births I would prefer it. I had 40 hours of labor followed by an emergency C section and then a second 10 hour labor with zero progress…when I found out I hadn’t dilated at all…AGAIN…I went for the C section before I got too exhausted like the first time.

Recovery was much easier second time around but fine both times. I was in good shape physically both times, work out a lot, etc. I have a funky scar and twisty lower stomach but it’s super low and I can still wear a bikini so I truly don’t care. The biggest downside is that I have a lot of pelvic pain and bladder issues now, which I think might be caused by scar tissue. I have had endometriosis my whole life though so it could also be that, or a combo.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 18:55     Subject: So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we can't just all share our experiences and not yell at other people about theirs.

Oh, yes, I do, because the sanctimommies out there who think the way they did it is right.



That's the way it is here in the DC bubble. Whether you are far left or far right, your way is the right way, the only way. No discussion needed because you are an idiot if you disagree with me

We are soon moving back to the midwest where most people have brains, not just opinions. Will be a breath of fresh air.


The somewhat hilarious and self evident hypocrisy in this comment is amusing
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 18:01     Subject: So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we can't just all share our experiences and not yell at other people about theirs.

Oh, yes, I do, because the sanctimommies out there who think the way they did it is right.



That's the way it is here in the DC bubble. Whether you are far left or far right, your way is the right way, the only way. No discussion needed because you are an idiot if you disagree with me

We are soon moving back to the midwest where most people have brains, not just opinions. Will be a breath of fresh air.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 15:29     Subject: So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
Not sure why we can't just all share our experiences and not yell at other people about theirs.

Oh, yes, I do, because the sanctimommies out there who think the way they did it is right.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 15:28     Subject: Re:So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are fine. I had my first for medical reasons and had a scheduled C for my second by choice.


No, not “they are fine.” They can be fine. And if you had one that you would describe as “fine,” you should be grateful for it, but aware that you got lucky.


Really? I think the majority are fine. I would never elect for one without medical necessity, but no need to fear monger.

I had two. With my first, I never went into labor and my cervix never dilated, and it was 12 days after my due date. They offered to induce labor but were clear that I was likely to end up with an emergency c-section anyway. It turned out that my baby was happily floating in an abundance of amniotic fluid so labor wouldn’t have occurred in its own.

The second was a scheduled c-section because a VBAC would’ve had a low likelihood of success. I’m grateful we made that choice because when they went in they discovered a hole in my uterus that would have made natural childbirth very dangerous.


You were fine, so all C-sections are smooth with no complications, and to say otherwise is to fear-monger. Got it. So your experience = valid and mine = not valid. Got it.


That's not what PP said. She said "the majority are fine" and then shared her experiences. People are allowed to share their experiences. Your bad experience doesn't make everyone's experience bad. I'm sorry you have lasting trauma from your c-section, perhaps you need to see a counselor to get over that.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 15:26     Subject: So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Curious why C-Sections are seen as such a bad thing. I delivered vaginally for my first and it was awful. My care team was great, I just hated everything about the entire process. Seemed like a whole lot of waiting around and being in pain. And I ended up needing an episiotomy and extraction anyway, which then resulted in a bunch of scar tissue that caused problems.

Now that I'm pregnant with my second, a C section sounds pretty darn good. No labor, just go in and get the whole thing done and over with in 15 minutes. I know there's recovery, but recovery from vaginal birth sucked, too. And I know it's surgery, so there are risks associated with that, but from talking with my OB it sounds like it's a very, very small increase of risk.

So why exactly are c-sections seen as so horrible?


Ummm I’m sorry but …unless you’ve had a c section you don’t get to say it’s easy. I’m 4 weeks postpartum still can’t walk right or bend or go up the stairs and get gas pains. Oh and I can’t lift my toddler and I can’t nurse right or sneeze or cough right. So they’re not bad, they’re just incredibly freaking difficult on the mom. And only when you’ve had one do you know what a shit show it is.


Ummm I'm sorry but...that's YOUR experience not all experiences. I was back to almost all normal activities at two weeks post c-section. Just b/c it sucks for you doesn't mean it sucks for everyone. Stop generalizing and maybe next time say something like "this is MY experience, YMMV"
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2022 19:01     Subject: So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Curious why C-Sections are seen as such a bad thing. I delivered vaginally for my first and it was awful. My care team was great, I just hated everything about the entire process. Seemed like a whole lot of waiting around and being in pain. And I ended up needing an episiotomy and extraction anyway, which then resulted in a bunch of scar tissue that caused problems.

Now that I'm pregnant with my second, a C section sounds pretty darn good. No labor, just go in and get the whole thing done and over with in 15 minutes. I know there's recovery, but recovery from vaginal birth sucked, too. And I know it's surgery, so there are risks associated with that, but from talking with my OB it sounds like it's a very, very small increase of risk.

So why exactly are c-sections seen as so horrible?


Ummm I’m sorry but …unless you’ve had a c section you don’t get to say it’s easy. I’m 4 weeks postpartum still can’t walk right or bend or go up the stairs and get gas pains. Oh and I can’t lift my toddler and I can’t nurse right or sneeze or cough right. So they’re not bad, they’re just incredibly freaking difficult on the mom. And only when you’ve had one do you know what a shit show it is.


Your experience sounds unusually bad. I'm also 4 weeks postpartum and I've been champing at the bit to get back to exercise since week 2. The first four days were painful, but I've been pain-free for weeks.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2022 13:32     Subject: So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
I had one vaginal birth with a bad tear (but recovery was easy and no lingering issues) and two easy, fast vaginal births. I have no problem with elective c sections, but most of the people I know who had emergency c sections had a bad experience. I think that's what people want to avoid. Worst care scenario is a lengthy labor + emergency c section. So, for me, the best outcomes in order are:

1. Easy vaginal birth/induction
2. Scheduled c section
. . .
100. Everything else
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2022 13:31     Subject: So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:C-Section are convenient for stockers to make that tee time. The cost is nearly double for the hospital revenue. This is not for the mother or child wellbeing but profit over people.


Doctor^


This is BS. C sections are either necessary or preferred for most people who get them, especially in this area where there are lots of places that are willing to support a vaginal birth if you want it.

-2 super easy unmedicated vaginal deliveries if you want to play more-crunchy-than-thou
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2022 13:21     Subject: So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:C-Section are convenient for stockers to make that tee time. The cost is nearly double for the hospital revenue. This is not for the mother or child wellbeing but profit over people.


Doctor^


My vaginal birth was 35K but I had multiple follow ups to urogynecologists and pelvic floor PT that probably cost upwards of 25,000 and I’m looking at prolapse repair surgery now which is easily 50,000. My scheduled c section was 45,000 and I have no long term ill effects. If you take into account the additional costs for vag births that result in maternal/fetal injury and require follow up and surgical repair (whether now or
Years later) my guess is that the numbers are not so
Black and white. How many hysterectomies and bladder slings and mesh surgeries are happening because of vaginal deliveries?
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2022 12:22     Subject: So what exactly is the problem with C-Sections?
Anonymous wrote:There's no problem y c-sections, it's just that a bunch of sanctimonious holier-than-thou women want to find a way to feel like they are better than someone else, so they say pushed a baby out of their vagina and that makes them a better mom.

I had two c-sections b/c my babies were breech. I had two VERY easy recoveries. I didn't tear and don't pee when I laugh or sneeze, I consider this a HUGE WIN over everyone I know that gave birth vaginally, LOL! Really the only downside is the scar, but it's covered even with the smallest bikini.


Absolutely agree, as someone who delivered vaginally with a second degree tear. It’s all bad news down there. I was so afraid of being cut open. Watch a video (a real video) of repair of a vaginal tear. It makes c-sections look positively civilized, and in real life, the doctors don’t take anywhere near the time and care they do in the videos. Would definitely go back in time and request an elective c if I could.