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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I missed this earlier in the thread - this percentage is reflective of a bunch of teachers and kids who may be back at school tomorrow (having completed their isolation over break). Or they will return in the next few days - having exposed absolutely no one in school.

One would HOPE it reflects the % of the school population that will be infectious as of the next school day. But at the very least as of the day it's released. Although it's true some cases will fall off, given the trajectory of omicron it's much more likely those cases will be replaced and added to as every day passes. At least in the next week or two.

I hope so but I’m skeptical about that. But even if kids are still finishing quarantine they should not be counted since they aren’t contributing to in school spread which is what the metric was originally supposed to be about.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll just say that my HS kid is already telling me that kids their age are talking about how to use the form to get their schools to close down. So MCPS might want to find a better system to verify information quickly.

And I'll just say that I hate wild conspiracy theories and conjecture about what seems like it could be possible (if you're dumb teen or a sociopath).

Everyone could have all of their mail stolen every single day. I mean, in theory! If it's not locked up!

Everyone with a recently deceased parent could commit voter fraud!

Etc.

But it almost never happens, even though we can easily imagine how "easy" it would be.

Pray tell, how would this work, PP?

Walk me through it.

Tell me about how it's actually happened or could happen on a significant scale and it's not just being bandied about by random teens your teen has supposedly heard of discussing it, probably.

On the form, you say you tested positive (regardless of whether you took a test or not). The end.

Oh, dear, you didn't show your work. You didn't walk me through it. You only gave me the first step.

I'm not going to even check that this premise is even correct, because I'm not trying to even partially fill out the form. Though I do notice that the very first page requires an email address, so right away a mismatch between that and school records could at least be a flag to investigate further.

But PP already summed this up. IF (BIG IF) it is true that "all you have to do" is fill out a Google form, then what?

Are you claiming, with any evidence whatsoever, that this case is added automatically to the count, without any human following up with a phone call?

How about contact tracers? How are the crafty teens planning on dealing with them?

Let's say that you would concede that these teens will soon be found out, because they're idiots without the ability to foresee rather severe personal consequences (not entirely implausible in some cases).

The only way that this even temporarily games numbers is if form goes click and spreadsheet goes brrrrrr with zero human intervention.

If teens are depending on that, then they are taking an incredible risk for very little reward.

After all, if their school's numbers are so close to 5% that a case or even 10 cases will push them over, they will reach 5% in a day or two anyway.

I mean, teens can be dumb, but I'll believe this has happened on any significant scale when I see the proof.

This is labeled 6am yesterday. So almost 36 hours have passed, including about two business days. This is old data. By a lot as far as this stuff goes.

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Anonymous wrote:When you look at the dashboard some of the schools going virtual have a similar number of cases to schools that are open.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/coronavirus/dashboard/index.aspx

This is a joke. We are relying on imperfect data (parent self-report). Parents who are unable to secure home tests or get tested aren't able to report + cases. Many parents purposely will not report to avoid school quarantine. What a mess.

This is why we need mandatory weekly testing.

What did MCPS do with the money it got from the Biden administration to be used to keep schools open and safe?

My school had a huge back pile of masks and cleaning supplies that I suppose were purchased with federal funds. But we can't use that money to purchase tests and the tests that are given to us by the county cannot be used by teachers

Ask uncle Joe where your Tesser he was going to solve everything wasn’t he?

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Anonymous wrote:When you look at the dashboard some of the schools going virtual have a similar number of cases to schools that are open.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/coronavirus/dashboard/index.aspx

This is a joke. We are relying on imperfect data (parent self-report). Parents who are unable to secure home tests or get tested aren't able to report + cases. Many parents purposely will not report to avoid school quarantine. What a mess.

This is why we need mandatory weekly testing.

What did MCPS do with the money it got from the Biden administration to be used to keep schools open and safe?

My school had a huge back pile of masks and cleaning supplies that I suppose were purchased with federal funds. But we can't use that money to purchase tests and the tests that are given to us by the county cannot be used by teachers

This also makes no sense because those kids and staff have presumably been in quarantine and are not anywhere near the schools. That tells you nothing about the potential for transmission when those doors open tomorrow morning.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll just say that my HS kid is already telling me that kids their age are talking about how to use the form to get their schools to close down. So MCPS might want to find a better system to verify information quickly.

And I'll just say that I hate wild conspiracy theories and conjecture about what seems like it could be possible (if you're dumb teen or a sociopath).

Everyone could have all of their mail stolen every single day. I mean, in theory! If it's not locked up!

Everyone with a recently deceased parent could commit voter fraud!

Etc.

But it almost never happens, even though we can easily imagine how "easy" it would be.

Pray tell, how would this work, PP?

Walk me through it.

Tell me about how it's actually happened or could happen on a significant scale and it's not just being bandied about by random teens your teen has supposedly heard of discussing it, probably.

My guess is that the teenagers are assuming that if they fill out the saying that Bobby Joey and Susie all have covid that no one from the school will follow up and verify that with their parents and verify that they have to qurrantine fir x number of days

This is all wrong. They should calculate the percentage of the students. And separately calculate the percentage of staff. If either of those is above 5% they should close.

This makes no sense otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll just say that my HS kid is already telling me that kids their age are talking about how to use the form to get their schools to close down. So MCPS might want to find a better system to verify information quickly.

Back to sleeping in and cheating for a grade. These high school kids have already had their school experience destroyed over the past couple of years, so now it's just about checking a box to get out of it.

MCPS grade inflates so much anyway it doesn’t even matter

Anonymous wrote:I know there are a ton of doctors and scientists on this forum. Question - does anyone know the county level incidence over the last 14 days? And does it track these school wide metrics? Is the county reporting, say, 1% over the last 14 days but the schools are reporting close to 5%? or vice versa?

NY Times has county level data with 14 day trends.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll just say that my HS kid is already telling me that kids their age are talking about how to use the form to get their schools to close down. So MCPS might want to find a better system to verify information quickly.

And I'll just say that I hate wild conspiracy theories and conjecture about what seems like it could be possible (if you're dumb teen or a sociopath).

Everyone could have all of their mail stolen every single day. I mean, in theory! If it's not locked up!

Everyone with a recently deceased parent could commit voter fraud!

Etc.

But it almost never happens, even though we can easily imagine how "easy" it would be.

Pray tell, how would this work, PP?

Walk me through it.

Tell me about how it's actually happened or could happen on a significant scale and it's not just being bandied about by random teens your teen has supposedly heard of discussing it, probably.

On the form, you say you tested positive (regardless of whether you took a test or not). The end.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe I missed this earlier in the thread - this percentage is reflective of a bunch of teachers and kids who may be back at school tomorrow (having completed their isolation over break). Or they will return in the next few days - having exposed absolutely no one in school.

One would HOPE it reflects the % of the school population that will be infectious as of the next school day. But at the very least as of the day it's released. Although it's true some cases will fall off, given the trajectory of omicron it's much more likely those cases will be replaced and added to as every day passes. At least in the next week or two.

I know there are a ton of doctors and scientists on this forum. Question - does anyone know the county level incidence over the last 14 days? And does it track these school wide metrics? Is the county reporting, say, 1% over the last 14 days but the schools are reporting close to 5%? or vice versa?

Anonymous wrote:I'll just say that my HS kid is already telling me that kids their age are talking about how to use the form to get their schools to close down. So MCPS might want to find a better system to verify information quickly.

Back to sleeping in and cheating for a grade. These high school kids have already had their school experience destroyed over the past couple of years, so now it's just about checking a box to get out of it.

Maybe I missed this earlier in the thread - this percentage is reflective of a bunch of teachers and kids who may be back at school tomorrow (having completed their isolation over break). Or they will return in the next few days - having exposed absolutely no one in school.