Anonymous
12/29/2021 12:54
Subject: What colleges get the most hate on this board?
I had never heard of Vandy and Northwestern during the 1980s, but I had heard of Tufts.
Anonymous
12/29/2021 12:30
Subject: Re:What colleges get the most hate on this board?
Vandy is no better than WashU or Emory. Tufts and Case I agree are a step below.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:duke
Duke envy! Honest persons admit Duke is an elite institution with a consistently great basketball team.
Much UVA hate which seems in response to UVA boosters trying to elevate the brand higher than reality.
I’m not a hater. My feeling is that any school outside my neighborhood that I’ve heard about at all can do great things for the right students.
But, when I was applying to college, back in the 1980s, and wanting to major in physics, I assumed that Duke, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame and Northwestern were all weaker than places like Tufts, Emory, Wash. U. or Case Western *because* they had Division I sports. It wasn’t till I started reading DCUM, as a parent, that I learned that people thought of Duke, Notre Dame and Vanderbilt as prestigious.
It could be that, outside of the Southeast, Duke takes a hit, with respect to perceptions of academic prestige, because it looks like a basketball team with a university attached.
You have got to be kidding. Duke, Northwestern and Vandy have always been stronger schools than WashU, Tufts and Case Western. Even back in the ‘80s.
Anonymous
12/29/2021 09:55
Subject: Re:What colleges get the most hate on this board?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:duke
Duke envy! Honest persons admit Duke is an elite institution with a consistently great basketball team.
Much UVA hate which seems in response to UVA boosters trying to elevate the brand higher than reality.
I’m not a hater. My feeling is that any school outside my neighborhood that I’ve heard about at all can do great things for the right students.
But, when I was applying to college, back in the 1980s, and wanting to major in physics, I assumed that Duke, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame and Northwestern were all weaker than places like Tufts, Emory, Wash. U. or Case Western *because* they had Division I sports. It wasn’t till I started reading DCUM, as a parent, that I learned that people thought of Duke, Notre Dame and Vanderbilt as prestigious.
It could be that, outside of the Southeast, Duke takes a hit, with respect to perceptions of academic prestige, because it looks like a basketball team with a university attached.
You have got to be kidding. Duke, Northwestern and Vandy have always been stronger schools than WashU, Tufts and Case Western. Even back in the ‘80s.
Anonymous
12/29/2021 09:52
Subject: Re:What colleges get the most hate on this board?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:duke
Duke envy! Honest persons admit Duke is an elite institution with a consistently great basketball team.
Much UVA hate which seems in response to UVA boosters trying to elevate the brand higher than reality.
I’m not a hater. My feeling is that any school outside my neighborhood that I’ve heard about at all can do great things for the right students.
But, when I was applying to college, back in the 1980s, and wanting to major in physics, I assumed that Duke, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame and Northwestern were all weaker than places like Tufts, Emory, Wash. U. or Case Western *because* they had Division I sports. It wasn’t till I started reading DCUM, as a parent, that I learned that people thought of Duke, Notre Dame and Vanderbilt as prestigious.
It could be that, outside of the Southeast, Duke takes a hit, with respect to perceptions of academic prestige, because it looks like a basketball team with a university attached.
Anonymous
12/28/2021 23:33
Subject: Re:What colleges get the most hate on this board?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Hands down - UVA - the Harvard of the South
The Harvard of the South would be Duke
UVA is the Tufts of the South
UVA is much better than Tufts at its best.
No. UVA is relentlessly oversold.
It might be but it's still much better than Tufts.
Tufts ROI is $1.54M vs. $1.29M for UVA. Tufts value add over expected earnings is +$5,700 per year. UVA's is -$2,400 per year.
https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/college-rankings/#interactivehttps://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/collegeroi/
And do you know why? Think about it.
There are many ways in which Tufts may have advantages, and this was an example, yet you in your typical UVA supporter fashion are quick to blithely dismiss it.
Not UVA. harvard. But the reason should be clear. Tufts is a private university and can do whatever it wants and creates whatever majors it wants. UVA is a state flagship. It's role is different - it is supposed t provide the Commonwealth with workers trained in a number of fields such as nursing, education, library science and many others. Those are traditionally low paying careers. There are many such majors at UVA.
UVA doesn't have library science. Only 3.4% of undergraduates are in nursing, and starting salaries for nursing are actually on the higher end for UVA undergraduates.
This report takes into account expected salary by major when calculating the value add for given schools. In other words, do graduates earn more or less than would be expected based on the majors they choose and by how much? UVA's "Value Add" is NEGATIVE $2,400. Tufts is PLUS $5,700.
https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/college-rankings/#interactive
https://career.virginia.edu/library-info-science
It is not an undergraduate major option. No undergraduates receive degrees in library science.
https://www.virginia.edu/academics/majors
https://ira.virginia.edu/cds-2020-21
Anonymous
12/28/2021 22:00
Subject: Re:What colleges get the most hate on this board?
Anonymous
12/28/2021 15:40
Subject: Re:What colleges get the most hate on this board?
It’s funny to me that someone has an axe to grind with my non prestigious alma mater (it’s several hours away from dc!)
Anonymous
12/28/2021 15:33
Subject: Re:What colleges get the most hate on this board?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:duke
Duke envy! Honest persons admit Duke is an elite institution with a consistently great basketball team.
Much UVA hate which seems in response to UVA boosters trying to elevate the brand higher than reality.
No, it's actually the reverse. Usually, on this board someone makes the stupid "UVA is overrated" comment, thinking they are being clever, when we all know they are a student from a rival school like VTech or UMD pr a parent or student who is bitter because they didn't get in or, as in the case of my DC, didn't even have the stats to apply. Then someone who actually knows something about UVA posts the stats required to attend or something positive with a link. I rarely see a booster here go first, like the funny "Roll Tide" booster. It's pure envy and sadly because this is anonymous, the bitter people post first. For example, just a few posts above someone said out of the blue "UVA because NOVA parents are so obnoxious" which is fallacious for a number of reasons not even worth addressing but supports my point that the bitter posters go first.
Lol I'm sorry but truly no one thinks that highly of UVA. This is what is so comical.
Google is your friend: I
Is UVA considered prestigious?
The University of Virginia [40] is located in Charlottesville, Virginia. One of the most prestigious public universities in the country, "UVA" was founded by Thomas Jefferson, author of the U.S. Declaration of Independence and two-term U.S. President.
Touring prestigious universities in the U.S. - Wikitravel
Anonymous
12/28/2021 15:13
Subject: What colleges get the most hate on this board?
Re the Curry School of Education at UVA - multiple degrees can be had at undergrad, grad, and Ph.D level. Here are just a few. https://education.virginia.edu/academic-programs?type=degrees. It's a good double major as well
Anonymous
12/28/2021 15:10
Subject: Re:What colleges get the most hate on this board?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Hands down - UVA - the Harvard of the South
The Harvard of the South would be Duke
UVA is the Tufts of the South
UVA is much better than Tufts at its best.
No. UVA is relentlessly oversold.
It might be but it's still much better than Tufts.
Tufts ROI is $1.54M vs. $1.29M for UVA. Tufts value add over expected earnings is +$5,700 per year. UVA's is -$2,400 per year.
https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/college-rankings/#interactivehttps://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/collegeroi/
And do you know why? Think about it.
There are many ways in which Tufts may have advantages, and this was an example, yet you in your typical UVA supporter fashion are quick to blithely dismiss it.
Not UVA. harvard. But the reason should be clear. Tufts is a private university and can do whatever it wants and creates whatever majors it wants. UVA is a state flagship. It's role is different - it is supposed t provide the Commonwealth with workers trained in a number of fields such as nursing, education, library science and many others. Those are traditionally low paying careers. There are many such majors at UVA.
UVA doesn't have library science. Only 3.4% of undergraduates are in nursing, and starting salaries for nursing are actually on the higher end for UVA undergraduates.
This report takes into account expected salary by major when calculating the value add for given schools. In other words, do graduates earn more or less than would be expected based on the majors they choose and by how much? UVA's "Value Add" is NEGATIVE $2,400. Tufts is PLUS $5,700.
https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/college-rankings/#interactive
https://career.virginia.edu/library-info-science
Anonymous
12/27/2021 16:30
Subject: Re:What colleges get the most hate on this board?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Hands down - UVA - the Harvard of the South
The Harvard of the South would be Duke
UVA is the Tufts of the South
UVA is much better than Tufts at its best.
No. UVA is relentlessly oversold.
It might be but it's still much better than Tufts.
Tufts ROI is $1.54M vs. $1.29M for UVA. Tufts value add over expected earnings is +$5,700 per year. UVA's is -$2,400 per year.
https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/college-rankings/#interactivehttps://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/collegeroi/
And do you know why? Think about it.
There are many ways in which Tufts may have advantages, and this was an example, yet you in your typical UVA supporter fashion are quick to blithely dismiss it.
Not UVA. harvard. But the reason should be clear. Tufts is a private university and can do whatever it wants and creates whatever majors it wants. UVA is a state flagship. It's role is different - it is supposed t provide the Commonwealth with workers trained in a number of fields such as nursing, education, library science and many others. Those are traditionally low paying careers. There are many such majors at UVA.
UVA doesn't have library science. Only 3.4% of undergraduates are in nursing, and starting salaries for nursing are actually on the higher end for UVA undergraduates.
This report takes into account expected salary by major when calculating the value add for given schools. In other words, do graduates earn more or less than would be expected based on the majors they choose and by how much? UVA's "Value Add" is NEGATIVE $2,400. Tufts is PLUS $5,700.
https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/college-rankings/#interactive
Ouch , can someone explain further. Is it true?
Anonymous
12/27/2021 16:13
Subject: Re:What colleges get the most hate on this board?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Hands down - UVA - the Harvard of the South
The Harvard of the South would be Duke
UVA is the Tufts of the South
UVA is much better than Tufts at its best.
No. UVA is relentlessly oversold.
It might be but it's still much better than Tufts.
Tufts ROI is $1.54M vs. $1.29M for UVA. Tufts value add over expected earnings is +$5,700 per year. UVA's is -$2,400 per year.
https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/college-rankings/#interactivehttps://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/collegeroi/
And do you know why? Think about it.
There are many ways in which Tufts may have advantages, and this was an example, yet you in your typical UVA supporter fashion are quick to blithely dismiss it.
Not UVA. harvard. But the reason should be clear. Tufts is a private university and can do whatever it wants and creates whatever majors it wants. UVA is a state flagship. It's role is different - it is supposed t provide the Commonwealth with workers trained in a number of fields such as nursing, education, library science and many others. Those are traditionally low paying careers. There are many such majors at UVA.
UVA doesn't have library science. Only 3.4% of undergraduates are in nursing, and starting salaries for nursing are actually on the higher end for UVA undergraduates.
This report takes into account expected salary by major when calculating the value add for given schools. In other words, do graduates earn more or less than would be expected based on the majors they choose and by how much? UVA's "Value Add" is NEGATIVE $2,400. Tufts is PLUS $5,700.
https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/college-rankings/#interactive
Anonymous
12/27/2021 15:50
Subject: Re:What colleges get the most hate on this board?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Hands down - UVA - the Harvard of the South
The Harvard of the South would be Duke
UVA is the Tufts of the South
UVA is much better than Tufts at its best.
No. UVA is relentlessly oversold.
It might be but it's still much better than Tufts.
Tufts ROI is $1.54M vs. $1.29M for UVA. Tufts value add over expected earnings is +$5,700 per year. UVA's is -$2,400 per year.
https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/college-rankings/#interactivehttps://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/collegeroi/
And do you know why? Think about it.
They forgot the UVA rules. If a ranking or measure has UVA behind another school, it is an invalid measure. If UVA is in front of the other school, it is a definitive measure.
Anonymous
12/27/2021 15:49
Subject: Re:What colleges get the most hate on this board?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Hands down - UVA - the Harvard of the South
The Harvard of the South would be Duke
UVA is the Tufts of the South
UVA is much better than Tufts at its best.
No. UVA is relentlessly oversold.
It might be but it's still much better than Tufts.
Tufts ROI is $1.54M vs. $1.29M for UVA. Tufts value add over expected earnings is +$5,700 per year. UVA's is -$2,400 per year.
https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/college-rankings/#interactivehttps://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/collegeroi/
And do you know why? Think about it.
There are many ways in which Tufts may have advantages, and this was an example, yet you in your typical UVA supporter fashion are quick to blithely dismiss it.
Not UVA. harvard. But the reason should be clear. Tufts is a private university and can do whatever it wants and creates whatever majors it wants. UVA is a state flagship. It's role is different - it is supposed t provide the Commonwealth with workers trained in a number of fields such as nursing, education, library science and many others. Those are traditionally low paying careers. There are many such majors at UVA.
Anonymous
12/27/2021 12:56
Subject: Re:What colleges get the most hate on this board?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA
Hands down - UVA - the Harvard of the South
The Harvard of the South would be Duke
UVA is the Tufts of the South
UVA is much better than Tufts at its best.
No. UVA is relentlessly oversold.
It might be but it's still much better than Tufts.
Tufts ROI is $1.54M vs. $1.29M for UVA. Tufts value add over expected earnings is +$5,700 per year. UVA's is -$2,400 per year.
https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/college-rankings/#interactivehttps://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/collegeroi/
And do you know why? Think about it.
There are many ways in which Tufts may have advantages, and this was an example, yet you in your typical UVA supporter fashion are quick to blithely dismiss it.