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Anonymous wrote:I have many thoughts. I totally get representation and diversity. And the movie was great for that. I also love Lin Manuel Miranda and think some of the songs are really, really good.

But after watching it I just thought the story was little weak and thin. Bruno lives in the walls for YEARS? What about the sister with the bionic hearing, she doesn't know he's there? Why was his vision about her? Why DOESN'T she have a power, or a room? Just from a story perspective a little weak.

She does hear him. She sings about it in We Don’t Talk About Bruno. She doesn’t tell people he’s there because they don’t walk about it .

Yeah, I thought that made it even worse. She knows her uncle is going crazy living inside the walls of he houses because grandma drove him away but doesn’t think to tell her mother, who is probably desperately worried about her missing triplet, or go find him to maybe share some kind words with him? That’s next level family dysfunction.

I had to watch it a few times to pick up on it, but I think the answer is Dolores just likes to cause trouble while seeming totally innocent. She outed Mirabel for not having a gift, she blabbed about the prophecy at dinner, and if you watch closely when she tells Isabella that the hot guy wants 5 babies, she gives a small smirk when she sees Isabella's reaction. She didn't blab about Bruno because it caused more trouble to just spread rumors about him and watch everyone freak out with the whole "we don't talk about Bruno" thing. Plus she may have found it funny to hear him go crazy in the walls.

Which makes this whole family absolutely horrible.

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Anonymous wrote:I have many thoughts. I totally get representation and diversity. And the movie was great for that. I also love Lin Manuel Miranda and think some of the songs are really, really good.

But after watching it I just thought the story was little weak and thin. Bruno lives in the walls for YEARS? What about the sister with the bionic hearing, she doesn't know he's there? Why was his vision about her? Why DOESN'T she have a power, or a room? Just from a story perspective a little weak.

She does hear him. She sings about it in We Don’t Talk About Bruno. She doesn’t tell people he’s there because they don’t walk about it .

Yeah, I thought that made it even worse. She knows her uncle is going crazy living inside the walls of he houses because grandma drove him away but doesn’t think to tell her mother, who is probably desperately worried about her missing triplet, or go find him to maybe share some kind words with him? That’s next level family dysfunction.

I had to watch it a few times to pick up on it, but I think the answer is Dolores just likes to cause trouble while seeming totally innocent. She outed Mirabel for not having a gift, she blabbed about the prophecy at dinner, and if you watch closely when she tells Isabella that the hot guy wants 5 babies, she gives a small smirk when she sees Isabella's reaction. She didn't blab about Bruno because it caused more trouble to just spread rumors about him and watch everyone freak out with the whole "we don't talk about Bruno" thing. Plus she may have found it funny to hear him go crazy in the walls.

I was rescued from watching this movie by this whole thread, and by this OP in another thread that is now locked

I love most Pixar and Disney movies but this was a big miss for me. Worse than Luca.
The story was not engaging and the verbal abuse was never addressed. A guy lived in the walls because this family and grandma were so bad. What was the point of this horrid film? Be like everyone else or get ostracized?

I was really, really looking forward to going for this movie, but this is the EXACT kind of bs that I am not interested in.

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I also really loved that she looked like an actual person, curls and glasses and not just skinny with big princess eyes! There was great body diversity which is not something I expect from Disney.

Yes, they look like people. My kids put eyes the size of Elsa's on their own pictures. They looked like aliens or a praying mantis.

My 12 year old ordered this movie last night, and this morning, took me by the hand and asked me to sit down with him to watch it. He hash't done that kind of thing in years. Halfway through, he lay down with his head in my lap to watch the rest.

I had never even heard about this movie. However adults perceive it, if my son's reaction is any evidence, this movie really resonates with kids.

I did think the music was terrific! I wondered "was Lin Manuel Miranda involved with this" when I heard one of the ballads interspersed with some rapping.

The story and message were also great. The best Disney I've seen in many many years.

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Anonymous wrote:I totally didn't understand the movie and neither did my kids. Why was Bruno banished to the walls?? What did his vision mean other than the magic may come to an end one day? I guess I just don't understand. And I do agree that the main character looked like either baby from dirty dancing or Andrea from 90210. So much so it was a bit distracting. And she still lives in the nursery?!?! The entire movie was weird and none of the characters were memorable and the grandma and the entire family seemed overly mean and abusive.

It wasn’t difficult to understand so if I were you, I’d be a bit concerned about your lack of comprehension.

Ok. On that. 🤪
The movie was quite weak, characters were shallow and unlikable and the message was cloudy and abusive.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw it for the second time today and loved it even more. The music, animation, and story are all fantastic. Loved all the positive messages, like we shouldn't have to be strong or perfect all the time.

***Spoiler alert***

But omg, the scene where it shows Abuela & her husband fleeing with their babies, and then when he sacrificed himself to save his family....I was ugly crying so hard. Like, loud, audible sobs. Almost as bad with the raccoon short before the movie, that had tears streaming down my face. Disney's hitting hard with the emotion.

Watched it three times and heard the soundtrack many more. Even hearing the song makes me sob.

Oh come on! You’re sobbing over this movie? The characters were so unlikeable.

Anonymous wrote:I totally didn't understand the movie and neither did my kids. Why was Bruno banished to the walls?? What did his vision mean other than the magic may come to an end one day? I guess I just don't understand. And I do agree that the main character looked like either baby from dirty dancing or Andrea from 90210. So much so it was a bit distracting. And she still lives in the nursery?!?! The entire movie was weird and none of the characters were memorable and the grandma and the entire family seemed overly mean and abusive.

It wasn’t difficult to understand so if I were you, I’d be a bit concerned about your lack of comprehension.

Anonymous wrote:My family all liked it, my kids really liked it, but I didn't think it was amazing, just pretty good. I'd rank it below Frozen, Tangled and the best of Pixar, but above films like Luca, Soul, Raya and the Last Dragon, Onward, and such.

We like Raya better but it suffers from no music.

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Anonymous wrote:I have many thoughts. I totally get representation and diversity. And the movie was great for that. I also love Lin Manuel Miranda and think some of the songs are really, really good.

But after watching it I just thought the story was little weak and thin. Bruno lives in the walls for YEARS? What about the sister with the bionic hearing, she doesn't know he's there? Why was his vision about her? Why DOESN'T she have a power, or a room? Just from a story perspective a little weak.

She does hear him. She sings about it in We Don’t Talk About Bruno. She doesn’t tell people he’s there because they don’t walk about it .

Yeah, I thought that made it even worse. She knows her uncle is going crazy living inside the walls of he houses because grandma drove him away but doesn’t think to tell her mother, who is probably desperately worried about her missing triplet, or go find him to maybe share some kind words with him? That’s next level family dysfunction.

I think they could have fleshed out Dolores' character all around, like the coupling at the end for her.

They definitely could have developed it a bit more but the pieces were there for sure. For example, Maribel is essentially becoming her abuela for the next generation… no magic of her own just deep love and pride, which is why she eventually is given the magic door knob her cousins and sisters and mom has but for the house. It’s a continuation of her abuelas legacy, but abuela was to scared to see it. I found it really beautiful and it definitely grew on me after the 99 times my kids watched it. Another reason it feels different - there isn’t a villain! Villains keep movies moving, and no sassy side kick! It is a simple movie in a lot of ways.

My family all liked it, my kids really liked it, but I didn't think it was amazing, just pretty good. I'd rank it below Frozen, Tangled and the best of Pixar, but above films like Luca, Soul, Raya and the Last Dragon, Onward, and such.

That family was the worst. I hope their magic dies.

Anonymous wrote:Skate explains some of the magic of We don't talk about Bruno

https://slate.com/culture/2022/01/encanto-soundtrack-we-dont-talk-about-bruno-tiktok.html

I love it when seatposts songs/verses fit together. Is there a musical term for that? It's not quite counterpoint, I don't think.

Wow, cool article. Thanks for sharing.

My 12 year old said that the crescendo at the end reminded him of the end of Hamilton’s “Non-Stop” - also an amazing song. So compelling and satisfying to hear it all come together!

Skate explains some of the magic of We don't talk about Bruno

https://slate.com/culture/2022/01/encanto-soundtrack-we-dont-talk-about-bruno-tiktok.html

I love it when seatposts songs/verses fit together. Is there a musical term for that? It's not quite counterpoint, I don't think.

Anonymous wrote:I totally didn't understand the movie and neither did my kids. Why was Bruno banished to the walls?? What did his vision mean other than the magic may come to an end one day? I guess I just don't understand. And I do agree that the main character looked like either baby from dirty dancing or Andrea from 90210. So much so it was a bit distracting. And she still lives in the nursery?!?! The entire movie was weird and none of the characters were memorable and the grandma and the entire family seemed overly mean and abusive.

Well, if you paid attention it was all there. Bruno wasn’t banished to the walls, he hid there after he had a vision about Mirabel. His vision showed that Mirabel was going to be the key to either saving the magic or fracturing the family. But he was afraid she would be blamed and scapegoated, so he took his vision and hid.

I also really loved that she looked like an actual person, curls and glasses and not just skinny with big princess eyes! There was great body diversity which is not something I expect from Disney.