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Anonymous wrote:People are going to yell at me for this, and maybe they should, but a low dose of adderal changed my relationship with food completely and I’m now slim without any effort.

I have legitimate ADHD but any dose high enough to actually control my symptoms messes up my sleep. In trying to find the right dose I discovered that 5 mg a day has almost no effect on anything else, except it gives me a tiny little edge of self control over my eating habits. It turns out that’s all I needed.

For the first time in my life I now eat when I’m hungry and stop when I’m full and don’t eat between meals. I used to think about food constantly and now I just don’t. It’s been truly life changing.

This is intriguing. I've never bothered to get diagnosed but I'm fairly certain I have ADHD.

Are you scared that you would gain the weight back if you ever went off the meds?

I wish I could talk my doc into prescribing this for me.

They're drugs - Amphetamine.

We know.

Are you seriously considering becoming a drug addict? If you don't have self-control around food, what do you think it will happen when you end up taking addictive meds? Just go straight to meth.

Why are you even in this thread? Do you say this same thing to people taking medication for anxiety?

Because people are shaming a PP for having surgery but seeing no problem using controlled medication, which is very similar to street drugs and very addictive, for vanity reasons. This is why it's such a PITA to get my DC1's ADHD medication refilled.

Anonymous wrote:Two books really changed my approach and I was finally able to lose weight to a mid normal BMI and maintain.

https://www.amazon.com/End-Your-Carb-Confusion-Customize/dp/1628604298

https://www.amazon.com/Obesity-Code-Unlocking-Secrets-Weight/dp/1771641258

If insurance will cover it, working with a group like Virta Health can be super helpful and the CGM tech is fun.
https://www.virtahealth.com/

There are lots of options before bariatric surgery, OP. And many who have it have a lot of side effects and gain the weight back anyway. Changing what you eat, how often and finding ways to get endorphins that are not based on sugar and starch can really improve metabolic health, then weight is far easier to adjust. Controlling insulin and cortisol (so if you have apnea symptoms try a cpap and manage stress) are keys. Good luck!

Plenty of people regain a lot, if not all plus more, of the weight they lost post bariatric surgery. It isn’t magic.
It really is as simple as stop stuffing yourself. Surgery can only stop you for so long. If you can eat (a lot) less and move more, you are much better off not getting surgery. If you just cannot control your eating, surgery is only a temporary fix. You need to figure out what is going on in your head psychology that is causing you to continuously overeat

Two books really changed my approach and I was finally able to lose weight to a mid normal BMI and maintain.

https://www.amazon.com/End-Your-Carb-Confusion-Customize/dp/1628604298

https://www.amazon.com/Obesity-Code-Unlocking-Secrets-Weight/dp/1771641258

If insurance will cover it, working with a group like Virta Health can be super helpful and the CGM tech is fun.
https://www.virtahealth.com/

There are lots of options before bariatric surgery, OP. And many who have it have a lot of side effects and gain the weight back anyway. Changing what you eat, how often and finding ways to get endorphins that are not based on sugar and starch can really improve metabolic health, then weight is far easier to adjust. Controlling insulin and cortisol (so if you have apnea symptoms try a cpap and manage stress) are keys. Good luck!

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Anonymous wrote:You should post on Reddit progress pics thread and give others inspiration.

I don’t think getting your stomach surgically shrunk down so that you are forced into malnutrition state and drop 100 lbs in a year should be “goals”

That state of malnutrition and quick weight loss results in sagging skin, bone density loss, and and muscle wasting.

Slow and steady weight loss naturally is the best way to go

You don’t know what you’re talking about. The data has shown over and over that without surgical intervention, big weight loss is not sustainable long term without bariatric surgery. It’s the best chance that very overweight people have at being thin if that is their goal.

Going from very fat to very thin in a short amount of time has negative health effects too- they just show up later.

Sweet jesus, stop talking. You don’t know anything about obesity or bariatric surgery. Currently, bariatric surgery is the one and only gold standard for treatment of obesity. That’s a fact. When it is successful and people are following the post-surgery diet, the weight pours off. In fact the weight that one loses in the first year after weight loss surgery is the majority of what they’ll lose. It’s supposed to pour off. That’s the point of the surgery.

It pours off because you physically can’t stuff yourself. Duh. But please don’t think cutting your stomach in half and surgically alternating your digestion doesn’t have its own set of negative health consequences. Anyone that is able to lose weight through their own will and lifestyle changes should absolutely do that.

I’m the PP to whom you’re replying and seriously, you’re ignorant about this. No one is claiming that bariatric surgery doesn’t have lifelong consequences, but, you know, that whole “solving obesity” thing is chief among them. And if you knew anything about bariatric surgery, you’d know that it does involve will power and lifestyle changes. They won’t give you the surgery unless you can adhere to the diet and lose a certain amount of weight prior to the surgery.

And finally, did you know that in a certain percentage of bariatric patients, their diabetes goes into remission immediately after the surgery? It has nothing to do with “not physically stuffing” yourself, it has everything to do with the fact that diabetes, obesity and endocrinology are complex issues not reducible to “EaT lEsS, mOvE mOrE! CaLoRiEs In, CaLoRiEs OuT!”

I was same stats as you OP. Now I'm at 205- it's been quite a road this year. I was never able to lose with counting calories. So I had gastroplasty which I learned about on this board. It's not as risky as the gastric sleeve and less recovery time. Procedure was easy but I only lost 20 pounds from it. I hardly ever feel the restriction unless I'm out to eat. And I burp all the time so not sure I would recommend it.

Now I'm trying wegovy and would definitely recommend trying it. It makes me much less hungry. But just started out on it.

Anonymous wrote:Op, I'm glad you posted this. Im 5'7 and weigh 290. I was 250 precocid and have packed in the pounds this year. I have a long way to go and have considered bariatric surgery. Just know you aren't alone. I don't know whether I can do it or not but reading this helps me realize I'm not totally abnormal. I used to be so skinny.

Just get the surgery. I am the poster upthread who got it, and I am so glad to not have to worry about my weight anymore. You will be amazed at how much improved your life will be without the stress of being overweight. I went from a size 16 to a solid 4. My confidence has increased, my health has improved, and I am (sadly) treated better.

The first year after the surgery will be the greatest adjustment, and socializing will be challenging. Except for a few people, most don't know I got the surgery so going out to eat and not finishing meals requires crafty explaining.

I am now able to eat everything that I used to, but just in smaller portions.

At 290, you would need to lose 131 lbs. to be within the normal weight range. Be realistic about what you can do on your own, and know that there is no shame in taking the extra step of medical intervention. Modern medicine is amazing. Do your research, and take advantage of it.

Op, I'm glad you posted this. Im 5'7 and weigh 290. I was 250 precocid and have packed in the pounds this year. I have a long way to go and have considered bariatric surgery. Just know you aren't alone. I don't know whether I can do it or not but reading this helps me realize I'm not totally abnormal. I used to be so skinny.

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Anonymous wrote:You should post on Reddit progress pics thread and give others inspiration.

I don’t think getting your stomach surgically shrunk down so that you are forced into malnutrition state and drop 100 lbs in a year should be “goals”

That state of malnutrition and quick weight loss results in sagging skin, bone density loss, and and muscle wasting.

Slow and steady weight loss naturally is the best way to go

You don’t know what you’re talking about. The data has shown over and over that without surgical intervention, big weight loss is not sustainable long term without bariatric surgery. It’s the best chance that very overweight people have at being thin if that is their goal.

Going from very fat to very thin in a short amount of time has negative health effects too- they just show up later.

Sweet jesus, stop talking. You don’t know anything about obesity or bariatric surgery. Currently, bariatric surgery is the one and only gold standard for treatment of obesity. That’s a fact. When it is successful and people are following the post-surgery diet, the weight pours off. In fact the weight that one loses in the first year after weight loss surgery is the majority of what they’ll lose. It’s supposed to pour off. That’s the point of the surgery.

It pours off because you physically can’t stuff yourself. Duh. But please don’t think cutting your stomach in half and surgically alternating your digestion doesn’t have its own set of negative health consequences. Anyone that is able to lose weight through their own will and lifestyle changes should absolutely do that.

+1 my friend just got bariatric surgery and had a rare complication where her intestines had a adverse reaction to the band and it’s been a month and she is still on an iv and can’t eat anything. She was hospitalized for a long while too. It’s not just a walk in the park.

It’s “rare” until it happens to someone close to you and you see how it drastically impacts their life. 🙄

It isn’t that rare at all. It just isn’t well documented because surgeons and hospitals are super good and getting complications classified as something other in order to not make their outcomes look bad- especially if you have already been discharged from hospital

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Anonymous wrote:People are going to yell at me for this, and maybe they should, but a low dose of adderal changed my relationship with food completely and I’m now slim without any effort.

I have legitimate ADHD but any dose high enough to actually control my symptoms messes up my sleep. In trying to find the right dose I discovered that 5 mg a day has almost no effect on anything else, except it gives me a tiny little edge of self control over my eating habits. It turns out that’s all I needed.

For the first time in my life I now eat when I’m hungry and stop when I’m full and don’t eat between meals. I used to think about food constantly and now I just don’t. It’s been truly life changing.

This is intriguing. I've never bothered to get diagnosed but I'm fairly certain I have ADHD.

Are you scared that you would gain the weight back if you ever went off the meds?

I wish I could talk my doc into prescribing this for me.

They're drugs - Amphetamine.

We know.

Are you seriously considering becoming a drug addict? If you don't have self-control around food, what do you think it will happen when you end up taking addictive meds? Just go straight to meth.

Why are you even in this thread? Do you say this same thing to people taking medication for anxiety?

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Anonymous wrote:People are going to yell at me for this, and maybe they should, but a low dose of adderal changed my relationship with food completely and I’m now slim without any effort.

I have legitimate ADHD but any dose high enough to actually control my symptoms messes up my sleep. In trying to find the right dose I discovered that 5 mg a day has almost no effect on anything else, except it gives me a tiny little edge of self control over my eating habits. It turns out that’s all I needed.

For the first time in my life I now eat when I’m hungry and stop when I’m full and don’t eat between meals. I used to think about food constantly and now I just don’t. It’s been truly life changing.

This is intriguing. I've never bothered to get diagnosed but I'm fairly certain I have ADHD.

Are you scared that you would gain the weight back if you ever went off the meds?

I wish I could talk my doc into prescribing this for me.

They're drugs - Amphetamine.

We know.

Are you seriously considering becoming a drug addict? If you don't have self-control around food, what do you think it will happen when you end up taking addictive meds? Just go straight to meth.

the link between ADHD and compulsive/impulsive binge eating is well-established...

OP, I saw a number I didn’t like to see on the scale about two weeks ago, and I’ve lost 7 pounds by giving up alcohol and reducing carbs/reducing portions overall. Good luck. Just chip away at it. It’s OK.

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Anonymous wrote:You should post on Reddit progress pics thread and give others inspiration.

I don’t think getting your stomach surgically shrunk down so that you are forced into malnutrition state and drop 100 lbs in a year should be “goals”

That state of malnutrition and quick weight loss results in sagging skin, bone density loss, and and muscle wasting.

Slow and steady weight loss naturally is the best way to go

You don’t know what you’re talking about. The data has shown over and over that without surgical intervention, big weight loss is not sustainable long term without bariatric surgery. It’s the best chance that very overweight people have at being thin if that is their goal.

Going from very fat to very thin in a short amount of time has negative health effects too- they just show up later.

Sweet jesus, stop talking. You don’t know anything about obesity or bariatric surgery. Currently, bariatric surgery is the one and only gold standard for treatment of obesity. That’s a fact. When it is successful and people are following the post-surgery diet, the weight pours off. In fact the weight that one loses in the first year after weight loss surgery is the majority of what they’ll lose. It’s supposed to pour off. That’s the point of the surgery.

It pours off because you physically can’t stuff yourself. Duh. But please don’t think cutting your stomach in half and surgically alternating your digestion doesn’t have its own set of negative health consequences. Anyone that is able to lose weight through their own will and lifestyle changes should absolutely do that.

+1 my friend just got bariatric surgery and had a rare complication where her intestines had a adverse reaction to the band and it’s been a month and she is still on an iv and can’t eat anything. She was hospitalized for a long while too. It’s not just a walk in the park.

It’s “rare” until it happens to someone close to you and you see how it drastically impacts their life. 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:People are going to yell at me for this, and maybe they should, but a low dose of adderal changed my relationship with food completely and I’m now slim without any effort.

I have legitimate ADHD but any dose high enough to actually control my symptoms messes up my sleep. In trying to find the right dose I discovered that 5 mg a day has almost no effect on anything else, except it gives me a tiny little edge of self control over my eating habits. It turns out that’s all I needed.

For the first time in my life I now eat when I’m hungry and stop when I’m full and don’t eat between meals. I used to think about food constantly and now I just don’t. It’s been truly life changing.

This is intriguing. I've never bothered to get diagnosed but I'm fairly certain I have ADHD.

Are you scared that you would gain the weight back if you ever went off the meds?

I wish I could talk my doc into prescribing this for me.

They're drugs - Amphetamine.

We know.

Are you seriously considering becoming a drug addict? If you don't have self-control around food, what do you think it will happen when you end up taking addictive meds? Just go straight to meth.

NP and I'm not considering any meds, but being addicted to food is its own type of drug addiction. If a low dose of prescription meds with a doctor following you helps you lose weight and keep it off, it could be a lot healthier than staying obese for the rest of your life.

I would agree with this. If that can work, I think it is a great option

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Anonymous wrote:People are going to yell at me for this, and maybe they should, but a low dose of adderal changed my relationship with food completely and I’m now slim without any effort.

I have legitimate ADHD but any dose high enough to actually control my symptoms messes up my sleep. In trying to find the right dose I discovered that 5 mg a day has almost no effect on anything else, except it gives me a tiny little edge of self control over my eating habits. It turns out that’s all I needed.

For the first time in my life I now eat when I’m hungry and stop when I’m full and don’t eat between meals. I used to think about food constantly and now I just don’t. It’s been truly life changing.

This is intriguing. I've never bothered to get diagnosed but I'm fairly certain I have ADHD.

Are you scared that you would gain the weight back if you ever went off the meds?

I wish I could talk my doc into prescribing this for me.

They're drugs - Amphetamine.

We know.

Are you seriously considering becoming a drug addict? If you don't have self-control around food, what do you think it will happen when you end up taking addictive meds? Just go straight to meth.

NP and I'm not considering any meds, but being addicted to food is its own type of drug addiction. If a low dose of prescription meds with a doctor following you helps you lose weight and keep it off, it could be a lot healthier than staying obese for the rest of your life.

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Anonymous wrote:People are going to yell at me for this, and maybe they should, but a low dose of adderal changed my relationship with food completely and I’m now slim without any effort.

I have legitimate ADHD but any dose high enough to actually control my symptoms messes up my sleep. In trying to find the right dose I discovered that 5 mg a day has almost no effect on anything else, except it gives me a tiny little edge of self control over my eating habits. It turns out that’s all I needed.

For the first time in my life I now eat when I’m hungry and stop when I’m full and don’t eat between meals. I used to think about food constantly and now I just don’t. It’s been truly life changing.

This is intriguing. I've never bothered to get diagnosed but I'm fairly certain I have ADHD.

Are you scared that you would gain the weight back if you ever went off the meds?

I wish I could talk my doc into prescribing this for me.

They're drugs - Amphetamine.

We know.

Are you seriously considering becoming a drug addict? If you don't have self-control around food, what do you think it will happen when you end up taking addictive meds? Just go straight to meth.