Anonymous wrote:I think now that so may kids apply early decision or maybe single choice early action...they have to narrow it down to one top choice so a visit can be important.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this an American thing to choose a college based on kids impressions from a campus visit? I am a immigrant and this feels so strange and random to me.
If my kid is going to spend 4 years and I'm going to spend $100,000+ on something, my kid's feelings at a school are something to consider.
But these first impressions are so irrelevant to the product you are paying for.
I disagree. And with many schools to choose from, how else should a kid pick where to go? If a kid just gets a "not the right place for me" vibe from a visit, would you double down and drop $100,000+ and insist he goes there anyway? Take a risk that he is miserable, becomes depressed, and ends up flunking out?
How else you would choose? You can consider graduation rates, graduates salary, where they go after college, class sizes, college reputation, resources, faculty caliber, aid, merit scholarships, etc, etc.
You would consider those criteria when building a list of colleges to apply to (and visit) but when it comes down to Amherst vs. Williams or Michigan vs. Wisconsin none of those are meaningful differentiators so leave it up to your child’s instinct.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this an American thing to choose a college based on kids impressions from a campus visit? I am a immigrant and this feels so strange and random to me.
If my kid is going to spend 4 years and I'm going to spend $100,000+ on something, my kid's feelings at a school are something to consider.
But these first impressions are so irrelevant to the product you are paying for.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this an American thing to choose a college based on kids impressions from a campus visit? I am a immigrant and this feels so strange and random to me.
If my kid is going to spend 4 years and I'm going to spend $100,000+ on something, my kid's feelings at a school are something to consider.
But these first impressions are so irrelevant to the product you are paying for.
I disagree. And with many schools to choose from, how else should a kid pick where to go? If a kid just gets a "not the right place for me" vibe from a visit, would you double down and drop $100,000+ and insist he goes there anyway? Take a risk that he is miserable, becomes depressed, and ends up flunking out?
How else you would choose? You can consider graduation rates, graduates salary, where they go after college, class sizes, college reputation, resources, faculty caliber, aid, merit scholarships, etc, etc.
You would consider those criteria when building a list of colleges to apply to (and visit) but when it comes down to Amherst vs. Williams or Michigan vs. Wisconsin none of those are meaningful differentiators so leave it up to your child’s instinct.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this an American thing to choose a college based on kids impressions from a campus visit? I am a immigrant and this feels so strange and random to me.
If my kid is going to spend 4 years and I'm going to spend $100,000+ on something, my kid's feelings at a school are something to consider.
But these first impressions are so irrelevant to the product you are paying for.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I loved Northwestern. Daughter ended of choosing UPenn because her friends went there. She has regretted not choosing NU ever since, and she's already graduated.Anonymous wrote:Harvard: Bland and a little drab, too touristy.
Yale: Stunningly gorgeous in every way. A+
Princeton: Also beautiful but felt like it lacked patina/character and felt a little too pretentious.
Columbia: LOVED this campus. Gritty, beautiful, classic. NYC.
Northwestern: Another favorite - great mix of modern and classic, and absolutely stunning location on the lake.
UChicago: So classically beautiful. Felt almost European, or stately, but felt extremely gloomy and gray, even though we visited same day as NU.
Cornell: Another great one - stunning location. Friendly, collegial.
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Aw, my kids LOVED Northwestern and ended up elsewhere, too. Would have been thrilled to send at least one of them there if they got in! But things happen for a reason.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this an American thing to choose a college based on kids impressions from a campus visit? I am a immigrant and this feels so strange and random to me.
If my kid is going to spend 4 years and I'm going to spend $100,000+ on something, my kid's feelings at a school are something to consider.
But these first impressions are so irrelevant to the product you are paying for.
I disagree. And with many schools to choose from, how else should a kid pick where to go? If a kid just gets a "not the right place for me" vibe from a visit, would you double down and drop $100,000+ and insist he goes there anyway? Take a risk that he is miserable, becomes depressed, and ends up flunking out?
How else you would choose? You can consider graduation rates, graduates salary, where they go after college, class sizes, college reputation, resources, faculty caliber, aid, merit scholarships, etc, etc.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:These impressions come from my two DCs and myself over many years (OP asked for fun takes):
UVA - very pretty and charming, but AO's presentation was offputting and student guide kept talking about how he had really wanted to go to an Ivy
VTech - Gothic prison run by turkeys
W&M - retirement home run by colonial-era cosplayers
Villanova - very small (I know it's not), very Catholic, very safe
Georgetown - compressed feel; younger child said it looked like a larger version of Gonzaga College High School
UNC - more accessible version of UVA (town and university better integrated)
Duke - very high-end shopping mall
Stanford - even higher-end shopping mall
Berkeley - students and homeless reeking of pot
Pitt - area near Tower of Learning is very nice, surprisingly international; area near hospital looked more run down
Michigan - 1950s era architecture surrounding faux-Ivy (law school) and ultra-modern (business school)
Harvard - confused about who is from the university and who is a tourist
Amherst - mini-Harvard, but with a beautiful hill/cliff overlooking the athletic fields
Dartmouth - upscaled prep school in the middle of nowhere
Williams - mini-Dartmouth
Yale - beautiful campus surrounded by meh
Wesleyan - mini-Yale
Cornell - peaks and valleys everywhere
Brown - should have been named Beige
Penn - criticisms of location and environment overblown, actually pretty nice
Columbia - Ghostbusters!
NYU - who actually attends classes here?
Johns Hopkins (medical school) - felt like the Matt Damon movie Elysium brought to life
BU - Fenway Park
Most of these are dumb and unfunny.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this an American thing to choose a college based on kids impressions from a campus visit? I am a immigrant and this feels so strange and random to me.
If my kid is going to spend 4 years and I'm going to spend $100,000+ on something, my kid's feelings at a school are something to consider.
But these first impressions are so irrelevant to the product you are paying for.
I disagree. And with many schools to choose from, how else should a kid pick where to go? If a kid just gets a "not the right place for me" vibe from a visit, would you double down and drop $100,000+ and insist he goes there anyway? Take a risk that he is miserable, becomes depressed, and ends up flunking out?
How else you would choose? You can consider graduation rates, graduates salary, where they go after college, class sizes, college reputation, resources, faculty caliber, aid, merit scholarships, etc, etc.
And again, if your kid is miserable, becomes depressed, and flunks out--none of that matters. Who cares what the "graduates salary" is for a school your kid didn't graduate from becomes they dropped out after christmas break their freshman year?
Well, if your kids impressions from a campus visit is a good predictor of their graduation rate then you are right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this an American thing to choose a college based on kids impressions from a campus visit? I am a immigrant and this feels so strange and random to me.
If my kid is going to spend 4 years and I'm going to spend $100,000+ on something, my kid's feelings at a school are something to consider.
But these first impressions are so irrelevant to the product you are paying for.
I disagree. And with many schools to choose from, how else should a kid pick where to go? If a kid just gets a "not the right place for me" vibe from a visit, would you double down and drop $100,000+ and insist he goes there anyway? Take a risk that he is miserable, becomes depressed, and ends up flunking out?
How else you would choose? You can consider graduation rates, graduates salary, where they go after college, class sizes, college reputation, resources, faculty caliber, aid, merit scholarships, etc, etc.
And again, if your kid is miserable, becomes depressed, and flunks out--none of that matters. Who cares what the "graduates salary" is for a school your kid didn't graduate from becomes they dropped out after christmas break their freshman year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this an American thing to choose a college based on kids impressions from a campus visit? I am a immigrant and this feels so strange and random to me.
If my kid is going to spend 4 years and I'm going to spend $100,000+ on something, my kid's feelings at a school are something to consider.
But these first impressions are so irrelevant to the product you are paying for.
I disagree. And with many schools to choose from, how else should a kid pick where to go? If a kid just gets a "not the right place for me" vibe from a visit, would you double down and drop $100,000+ and insist he goes there anyway? Take a risk that he is miserable, becomes depressed, and ends up flunking out?
How else you would choose? You can consider graduation rates, graduates salary, where they go after college, class sizes, college reputation, resources, faculty caliber, aid, merit scholarships, etc, etc.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this an American thing to choose a college based on kids impressions from a campus visit? I am a immigrant and this feels so strange and random to me.
If my kid is going to spend 4 years and I'm going to spend $100,000+ on something, my kid's feelings at a school are something to consider.
But these first impressions are so irrelevant to the product you are paying for.
I disagree. And with many schools to choose from, how else should a kid pick where to go? If a kid just gets a "not the right place for me" vibe from a visit, would you double down and drop $100,000+ and insist he goes there anyway? Take a risk that he is miserable, becomes depressed, and ends up flunking out?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this an American thing to choose a college based on kids impressions from a campus visit? I am a immigrant and this feels so strange and random to me.
If my kid is going to spend 4 years and I'm going to spend $100,000+ on something, my kid's feelings at a school are something to consider.
But these first impressions are so irrelevant to the product you are paying for.