Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 12:05     Subject: Re:Girls in princess costumes
Anonymous wrote:I have a visceral reaction to so-called progressives who carp about little girls' costumes in an attempt to be "woke".

OP, you're just no fun.


Plus so many. Misogynistic bull crap. Then they encourage their daughters to dress as what has historically been depicted as male characters. She can be Batman! So, that’s okay.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 11:56     Subject: Girls in princess costumes
I mean, who DOESN'T love princess dresses???
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 11:53     Subject: Girls in princess costumes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone is a progressive until their son wants to wear a princess dress to daycare.


Eh, that's fine too. A bunch of boys did when my DD was in daycare (she was 4 when the first Frozen was HUGE). All the kids fought over who got to be Elsa.

Now they are 11 and the girls no longer dress like princesses, neither do the boys, (though they may be gay or lesbian, who knows) and they're all fine. This is just such a non-issue.


A lot time kids want to pretend to be the protagonist of the story who has power (or "powers" and authority) and get to wear cool clothes! That's why superhero costumes are always so popular. Stories with female protagonists in popular media targeted at kids are disproportionately heavy on princesses/royalty so it's not surprising to see a lot of princesses costumes. I like the idea of paying attention to the content of any shows they are watching, books they are reading and watching how they play. If they're dressing up fancy but showing agency, then why worry?

I loved dressing up and playing pretend complete with poofy dresses and tiaras as a kid and now I'm a military physician, so I'm not worried about my kids having a princess phase.

Modern Disney is still a corporation that wants your money, but the modern content they are putting out isn't as retrograde as people are thinking. My daughters really loved Star vs the Forces of Evil and it riffs on the concept of "princesses" and royalty. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/star-vs-forces-of-evil-boy-princess_n_5a15907ae4b03dec8249695b
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 11:30     Subject: Re:Girls in princess costumes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe that being fem negates being smart. I have my PhD in statistics, am working in my field, and love makeup and feeling ::gasp:: pretty. My daughter is 5 and loves princesses. She is also bilingual, obsessed with doing math and puzzles. So I guess, OP, you’re just not as open minded as you think you are.

and even if your daughter didn't like math or hated puzzles or was monolingual....THAT'S OK TOO! I get where people are going when they say stuff like this but I kind of hate when people feel the need to follow up their "my daughter likes princesses but she also likes [insert non-stereotypically feminine activity]" as if a girl needs to also like [insert non-stereotypically feminine activity] to be "ok" or to get those progressive points.

My daughter (now 22 and in her first year of graduate school to become a speech pathologist) loved princesses as a kid. She liked ballet. She had a learning disability in math. School never came easily for her- college was an uphill battle and grad school has been so far, too. She's always been interested in hair, makeup, fashion, and shopping (you should see the girl thrift!). She's shy and can be emotional and doesn't have a big personality. She's a natural with kids and loves to babysit (still!). Everything about her is a "girly girl." And that's 100% OK.


Your daughter sounds wonderful and like she has found a good path for herself. I also hate the “buts” - no excuses are necessary!
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 11:23     Subject: Re:Girls in princess costumes
Anonymous wrote:+10 progressive points for you.



+100! Cancel all those princesses and their parents.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 09:34     Subject: Girls in princess costumes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone is a progressive until their son wants to wear a princess dress to daycare.


I gifted a bunch dress up clothes to my daughter's daycare and all the boys would fight over wearing them. Nobody blinked an eye


This. My 6 yo son, who is into typical "boy" things gets very frustrated that "girl" things are more interesting than the "boy" things: clothes with sequins, water bottles with sparkles etc. Why can't a space-themed water bottle have glitter? It would make a lot more sense having glitter to represent stars than on a unicorn bottle.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2021 21:02     Subject: Girls in princess costumes
Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why dinosaurs are strong and interesting but unicorns are weak and people judge little girls for them. This whole argument against little girls is sexist.

My dd loves anything with pink, sparkles or a tutu. She’s very extra and it fits her personality. Ds is into purple, dinosaurs and wears a hood everywhere he goes. He’s grumpier and doesn’t want attention.


It's extra funny when you see the little girls of parents who tried so hard to squash any girliness in them by dressing them in stereotypical boy clothes (darks and neutrals), with typical boy shoes, and cutting their hair short only for the girls to blossom into the most pinkatsatic pink lovers who wanted all the glitter, bows, unicorns, and dresses that twirl in daycare and preschool. However, their parents indulged them despite their best efforts as even they realized it was nature over nurture. But, it's all just a phase and by the time they are 7 or 8 they are over it. The people fretting the most about this have very young children, in the midst of this, or are just the typical childless judgers who think they won't ever have a kid like that and have no idea what's in store for them.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2021 20:54     Subject: Girls in princess costumes
I don’t get why dinosaurs are strong and interesting but unicorns are weak and people judge little girls for them. This whole argument against little girls is sexist.

My dd loves anything with pink, sparkles or a tutu. She’s very extra and it fits her personality. Ds is into purple, dinosaurs and wears a hood everywhere he goes. He’s grumpier and doesn’t want attention.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2021 20:50     Subject: Re:Girls in princess costumes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I Believe it’s what’s being sold to them, OP. It’s more the Disney culture than anything. My mom was saying that in the 1950’s there were “hobos”, ghosts, Addams Family and Munsters characters but very few Cinderella’s because they only saw Cinderella once in the theater. My mom has great pictures of herself dressed as Paul McCartney and her siblings as John, George and Ringo. Once she went as cousin It.

I was not as Princess orientated as my DD is because I didn’t watch as much princess crap.


This is my gripe with Disney princesses, and Spiderman, or any other corporate/commercial character that's out there. Parents are the gatekeepers, kids don't have a biological need/desire to dress like a Disney princess or Batman, and posters who don't acknowledge this are annoying. Sure, your kid will grow out of it, but how did your kid grow into it?

OP is also very annoying.


If you have to ask such a stupid question then you obviously don't have kids. People like you and OP are annoying.


Wrong, but go ahead and hide behind the ol "you obviously don't have kids" thing if it makes you feel safe.


Safe from annoying morons like you? You must not spend much time with your kids if you believe such stupid things then. Or your have an infant. Come back in a few years when you are older and wiser, newbie.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2021 20:47     Subject: Re:Girls in princess costumes
My DD loves to dress up, especially in princess costumes complete with tiara and costume jewelry. You know what she does once she gets dressed up? She plays doctor, or chef, or pilot, or she declares that she has to go to work and call her clients. Sometimes she flounces off to go save the world.

It’s a dress, OP. That is all.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2021 20:41     Subject: Girls in princess costumes
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why we have to shit on little girls for liking the things that they like


For progressive street cred, of course.

Anonymous
Post 11/02/2021 20:38     Subject: Girls in princess costumes
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why we have to shit on little girls for liking the things that they like


THIS RIGHT HERE
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2021 20:38     Subject: Girls in princess costumes
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone is a progressive until their son wants to wear a princess dress to daycare.


This. The conventional wisdom seems to be to push girls into sports and away from girly things on the thinking that this is progressive. But you don't see anyone pushing boys into anything perceived as girly. It's absurd. We don't have to put the thumb on the scale in either direction. We could just let our kids be whatever they are, whether that lines up with biology or not. There is a fair amount of scientific support for the fact that boys tend to be attracted to typically boy things (trucks, balls) and girl are attracted to typically girl things -- all before nurture has had its say. That's neither right nor wrong. Let the girls wear their tiaras or kick their soccer balls (or both!) as they prefer. And let the boys do the same!


It's funny I have a 17 month old and an older sister and he will occasionally wear some of his sister's hand-me-downs, he's dressed him up in a few of her pink dresses just for fun and he has warned her pink shoes since I don't see the point in buying him his own pair of stride rite shoes that he's just going to grow in a few weeks anyway. My father-in-law is just deeply offended every time you've ever put him in anything pink or purple
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2021 20:35     Subject: Girls in princess costumes
Anonymous wrote:Everyone is a progressive until their son wants to wear a princess dress to daycare.


I gifted a bunch dress up clothes to my daughter's daycare and all the boys would fight over wearing them. Nobody blinked an eye
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2021 20:34     Subject: Girls in princess costumes
I don't understand why we have to shit on little girls for liking the things that they like