Between this and squid games and tik tok and other parenting gems, society is doomed.

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Anonymous wrote:Drinking is not morally wrong.

There is a huge difference between laws and morals

You don't think it is immoral to violate a law that is itself not immoral? Or do you think the legal drinking age is immoral and should be protested by teen drinking until it is abolished?

Wut?
The drinking age is arbitrary, as are many laws. There is nothing that magically happens on your 21st birthday to make it moral.

The issue is that OP transported not only her only tipsy child but his friends. If their parents were okay with them drinking, they would have called them.

Anonymous wrote:Drinking is not morally wrong.

There is a huge difference between laws and morals

You don't think it is immoral to violate a law that is itself not immoral? Or do you think the legal drinking age is immoral and should be protested by teen drinking until it is abolished?

Anonymous wrote:Well, my kids know that we have alcohol on occasion. My kids know that you shouldn't drink to excess often. My spouse and I know that teens and college kids will drink sometimes.

What is shocking to me is that this teen either thought his parent was so stupid they didn't notice they were all tipsy and dropped them off for the next stop for party night - or - they believe that their parent is totally okay with underaged drinking and partying.

Personally, I'm okay with my kids being close enough with me to call me when they get themselves into a bind while drinking BUT enough scared of me to know that they need to confess and expect to go home (or realize I will definitely notice and we are going home).

Otherwise you should like a doormat who has become your child's designated driver.

Unfortunately those two aren’t really compatible.
It doesn’t sound like you have teens.

Well, my kids know that we have alcohol on occasion. My kids know that you shouldn't drink to excess often. My spouse and I know that teens and college kids will drink sometimes.

What is shocking to me is that this teen either thought his parent was so stupid they didn't notice they were all tipsy and dropped them off for the next stop for party night - or - they believe that their parent is totally okay with underaged drinking and partying.

Personally, I'm okay with my kids being close enough with me to call me when they get themselves into a bind while drinking BUT enough scared of me to know that they need to confess and expect to go home (or realize I will definitely notice and we are going home).

Otherwise you should like a doormat who has become your child's designated driver.

Jesus turned water into wine, so there’s nothing immoral about drinking. The US has some of the strictest laws for drinking (aside from Muslim nations).
My parents allowed us to drink at holidays. We all got to try wine and beer. None of us ever got drunk doing this.
Back in the 70s, when drinking age was 18, my parents were the host house for many high school parties and alcohol was served. They knew all the parents and ensured no one drove that had drank, and that no one got overly intoxicated. I think this helped the teens learn “how” to moderate their drinking.
Now they learn at college, without a watchful eye… which means alcohol poisoning for some.

Drinking is not morally wrong.

There is a huge difference between laws and morals

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised at the number of people okay with having drunk teens dropped off at their house.

Agree. Posters need to flip the script on this one. You told your child he could have friends spend the night. OP drops them off and drives away, they stumble in, and you realize, crap! I have a house full of underaged intoxicated kids. Now what?

Worse, you didn't give permission, and you aren't even home, but there are bunch of drunk teens "sleeping" at your house.

Tipsy is different than drunk, to me. But maybe the OP is downplaying how much they had.

Tipsy is drunk and there's no legal amount of alcohol for a minor.

This is the bottom line. And who exactly provided the alcohol to minors?

They all have fake IDs

Not likely look at half the parents in the thread would be happy to provide alcohol.

But I agree further questions need to be asked.

Please point out in this thread where any parent said they would be happy to provide alcohol!!

Stop acting like there is some huge moral difference between providing it and “just” allowing it. I agree that there is a legal difference, but morally it is the same.

There is a huge difference. And you didn’t answer the question. You just deflected.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sad for parents who feel like they have to act okay with this.

Well, unless they ARE okay with it. If OP wants to turn a blind eye to the drinking, then turning a blind eye in the car would be the right play.

I’m sort of appalled at these kids. Don’t they have Uber? IMO if you’re old enough to drink, you should be old enough to safely sneak around. The “always call me” thing is for when you’re in trouble. It shouldn’t mean “don’t plan or take any responsibility for getting yourself around safely.” I would have taken them all home.

It's exactly what it is. OP's teen daughter admitted to drinking too, and OP is cool with it, accepting her lie. I suspect there's a history of alcoholism in OP's family, probably a parent given how desperate she is to please and has trouble establishing healthy boundaries.

Are we on the same post?

OP mentioned her slightly younger teen daughter earlier in the thread. Said they talk about drinking, and she said he teen tried it but told her she didn't like the taste, and OP believed that. ot saying thse needs to punish her kids, but she needs to pull her head out of the sand.

You’re back tracking now. You just went from suspecting a history of alchoholism to she needs to pull her head out of the sand.
You are crazy and making stuff up.

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid needs an Uber account with unlimited access when drinking.

No you can’t be liable. Don’t tell people you knew they were drinking.

Prosecutor: According to the ME, Larlo’s Blood Alcohol Level was 0.25 meaning he was already intoxicated when he got into your car an hour earlier. Karlo testified that Larlo stumbled getting into your car and had difficulty fastening his seat belt. Is it your contention that you failed to notice his impairment?

And the crime is…???

I don't know she knowingly transported a drunk minor to a different party maybe negligience maybe contributing to deliquency of a minor. I don't know. I'm sure they can come up with something, especially if they go through text messages.

You don’t just get to make stuff up and charge people with it. Please stop.

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised at the number of people okay with having drunk teens dropped off at their house.

Agree. Posters need to flip the script on this one. You told your child he could have friends spend the night. OP drops them off and drives away, they stumble in, and you realize, crap! I have a house full of underaged intoxicated kids. Now what?

Worse, you didn't give permission, and you aren't even home, but there are bunch of drunk teens "sleeping" at your house.

Tipsy is different than drunk, to me. But maybe the OP is downplaying how much they had.

Tipsy is drunk and there's no legal amount of alcohol for a minor.

This is the bottom line. And who exactly provided the alcohol to minors?

They all have fake IDs

Not likely look at half the parents in the thread would be happy to provide alcohol.

But I agree further questions need to be asked.

Not one person said they would provide alcohol.

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised at the number of people okay with having drunk teens dropped off at their house.

Agree. Posters need to flip the script on this one. You told your child he could have friends spend the night. OP drops them off and drives away, they stumble in, and you realize, crap! I have a house full of underaged intoxicated kids. Now what?

Worse, you didn't give permission, and you aren't even home, but there are bunch of drunk teens "sleeping" at your house.

Tipsy is different than drunk, to me. But maybe the OP is downplaying how much they had.

Tipsy is drunk and there's no legal amount of alcohol for a minor.

This is the bottom line. And who exactly provided the alcohol to minors?

They all have fake IDs

Not likely look at half the parents in the thread would be happy to provide alcohol.

But I agree further questions need to be asked.

Please point out in this thread where any parent said they would be happy to provide alcohol!!

Stop acting like there is some huge moral difference between providing it and “just” allowing it. I agree that there is a legal difference, but morally it is the same.

I actually think it’s morally and correct to send a child to college was never experienced alcohol. Is extremely dangerous. And morally wrong

No. Newsflash. They don’t all get $hit faced in college either. Ask me how I know. It’s shocking to some of you that some kids just don’t want to drink. And it’s not just one or two. It sends the wrong message that you literally expect this of them and think there is something wrong if they don’t.

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised at the number of people okay with having drunk teens dropped off at their house.

Agree. Posters need to flip the script on this one. You told your child he could have friends spend the night. OP drops them off and drives away, they stumble in, and you realize, crap! I have a house full of underaged intoxicated kids. Now what?

Worse, you didn't give permission, and you aren't even home, but there are bunch of drunk teens "sleeping" at your house.

Tipsy is different than drunk, to me. But maybe the OP is downplaying how much they had.

Tipsy is drunk and there's no legal amount of alcohol for a minor.

This is the bottom line. And who exactly provided the alcohol to minors?

They all have fake IDs

Not likely look at half the parents in the thread would be happy to provide alcohol.

But I agree further questions need to be asked.

Please point out in this thread where any parent said they would be happy to provide alcohol!!

Stop acting like there is some huge moral difference between providing it and “just” allowing it. I agree that there is a legal difference, but morally it is the same.

I actually think it’s morally and correct to send a child to college was never experienced alcohol. Is extremely dangerous. And morally wrong

No. Newsflash. They don’t all get $hit faced in college either. Ask me how I know. It’s shocking to some of you that some kids just don’t want to drink. And it’s not just one or two. It sends the wrong message that you literally expect this of them and think there is something wrong if they don’t.

There's a big difference between kids who don't want to drink and parents putting a great deal of effort into preventing it

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised at the number of people okay with having drunk teens dropped off at their house.

Agree. Posters need to flip the script on this one. You told your child he could have friends spend the night. OP drops them off and drives away, they stumble in, and you realize, crap! I have a house full of underaged intoxicated kids. Now what?

Worse, you didn't give permission, and you aren't even home, but there are bunch of drunk teens "sleeping" at your house.

Tipsy is different than drunk, to me. But maybe the OP is downplaying how much they had.

Tipsy is drunk and there's no legal amount of alcohol for a minor.

This is the bottom line. And who exactly provided the alcohol to minors?

They all have fake IDs

Not likely look at half the parents in the thread would be happy to provide alcohol.

But I agree further questions need to be asked.

Please point out in this thread where any parent said they would be happy to provide alcohol!!

Stop acting like there is some huge moral difference between providing it and “just” allowing it. I agree that there is a legal difference, but morally it is the same.

I actually think it’s morally and correct to send a child to college was never experienced alcohol. Is extremely dangerous. And morally wrong

No. Newsflash. They don’t all get $hit faced in college either. Ask me how I know. It’s shocking to some of you that some kids just don’t want to drink. And it’s not just one or two. It sends the wrong message that you literally expect this of them and think there is something wrong if they don’t.