Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt that number of P5 commits from the area has dropped off a bit from even a couple of years ago. Some possible reasons:
- incoming classes seeing increasing numbers of foreign players
- increasing numbers of players taking advantage of extra eligibility years whether due to redshirting or NCAA COVID waivers. possible increased use of redshirt status too. This is more prevalent in P5 than anywhere else.
- college coaches leaving spots open due to roster uncertainties
- reduced budgets due to COVID years

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Anonymous wrote:DC is full of morons. These people talking about academics are morons. Duke, UNC, Stanford, UVA, Michigan, UCLA, Princeton, Harvard, Penn State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt, etc, represent elite private and state institutions of higher learning that also have competitive soccer programs. You can have your cake and eat it too. Get real people.

Graduate programs snd high-end employers will take student-athletes all day long.

What is your purpose with this? Are you just trying to throw shade on all the NOVA college bound players because they're not going to P5 schools?

The bubble crowd is arguing that academics is the only driver. The point I make is that you can get elite academics and elite soccer at the same school. The two are not mutually exclusive.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is full of morons. These people talking about academics are morons. Duke, UNC, Stanford, UVA, Michigan, UCLA, Princeton, Harvard, Penn State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt, etc, represent elite private and state institutions of higher learning that also have competitive soccer programs. You can have your cake and eat it too. Get real people.

Graduate programs snd high-end employers will take student-athletes all day long.

What is your purpose with this? Are you just trying to throw shade on all the NOVA college bound players because they're not going to P5 schools?

The bubble crowd is arguing that academics is the only driver. The point I make is that you can get elite academics and elite soccer at the same school. The two are not mutually exclusive.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is full of morons. These people talking about academics are morons. Duke, UNC, Stanford, UVA, Michigan, UCLA, Princeton, Harvard, Penn State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt, etc, represent elite private and state institutions of higher learning that also have competitive soccer programs. You can have your cake and eat it too. Get real people.

Graduate programs snd high-end employers will take student-athletes all day long.

What is your purpose with this? Are you just trying to throw shade on all the NOVA college bound players because they're not going to P5 schools?

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Anonymous wrote:I am unaware of any 2022 in NOVA committed to an elite college program, i.e. one that has made it to the College Cup in the past ten years. You can either accept the reality that the 2022 and 2023 are down years or that there is something more serious going on with proper coaching/development.

You’re moving the goalposts. PP mentioned Georgetown, Wisconsin, etc. Those aren’t “elite” programs that fit your College Cup criteria. What’s your list? Unc and FSU?

Elite is power 5 conferences. Any other definition is dumb and wrong.

Santa Clara begs to differ, bruh.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is full of morons. These people talking about academics are morons. Duke, UNC, Stanford, UVA, Michigan, UCLA, Princeton, Harvard, Penn State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt, etc, represent elite private and state institutions of higher learning that also have competitive soccer programs. You can have your cake and eat it too. Get real people.

Graduate programs snd high-end employers will take student-athletes all day long.

And kids would absolutely go to those programs if soccer gets them in the school. You are a moron for suggesting otherwise. There is enough money in this area that if Soccer gets their kid into Duke without a scholarship they will take Duke over a full ride at VCU.

Or they might take the full ride to VCU. Which would be an amazing accomplishment. I would be ecstatic if my DD had that opportunity.

They might, and they wouldn't be wrong, but the point that scholarship money being used as a measure of achievement, when there is so little of it to go around in Women's soccer is pointless. It really does end up being about the best academic and soccer fit possible.

So if a kid wants to stay closer to home, be an impact player and have no debt then a VCU full ride is perfect for them. If a kid, like the VCU, player is a very good player, a strong student but not an elite student and getting in at Duke or other high academic schools was the plan that is great too. Their lack of scholarship does not speak against the achievement either.

Some people want soccer to reduce the college bill and others want soccer to improve the school choices. And for many it is a combination of both. It can be hard enough to accomplish even one of the tasks let alone both.

Lots of scholarship money in girls soccer. You’re taking non-sense.

There are 14 allowed scholarships per team. Rosters often reach 30 players. Those 14 scholarships generally get divided up so this means very few players ever get full rides and the rest will generally cover 1/4 of the tuition if your player is lucky. And whatever your DD gets can be given to the next hot transfer or Freshman next year.

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Anonymous wrote:I am unaware of any 2022 in NOVA committed to an elite college program, i.e. one that has made it to the College Cup in the past ten years. You can either accept the reality that the 2022 and 2023 are down years or that there is something more serious going on with proper coaching/development.

You’re moving the goalposts. PP mentioned Georgetown, Wisconsin, etc. Those aren’t “elite” programs that fit your College Cup criteria. What’s your list? Unc and FSU?

Elite is power 5 conferences. Any other definition is dumb and wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is full of morons. These people talking about academics are morons. Duke, UNC, Stanford, UVA, Michigan, UCLA, Princeton, Harvard, Penn State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt, etc, represent elite private and state institutions of higher learning that also have competitive soccer programs. You can have your cake and eat it too. Get real people.

Graduate programs snd high-end employers will take student-athletes all day long.

What is your purpose with this? Are you just trying to throw shade on all the NOVA college bound players because they're not going to P5 schools?

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Anonymous wrote:DC is full of morons. These people talking about academics are morons. Duke, UNC, Stanford, UVA, Michigan, UCLA, Princeton, Harvard, Penn State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt, etc, represent elite private and state institutions of higher learning that also have competitive soccer programs. You can have your cake and eat it too. Get real people.

Graduate programs snd high-end employers will take student-athletes all day long.

And kids would absolutely go to those programs if soccer gets them in the school. You are a moron for suggesting otherwise. There is enough money in this area that if Soccer gets their kid into Duke without a scholarship they will take Duke over a full ride at VCU.

Or they might take the full ride to VCU. Which would be an amazing accomplishment. I would be ecstatic if my DD had that opportunity.

They might, and they wouldn't be wrong, but the point that scholarship money being used as a measure of achievement, when there is so little of it to go around in Women's soccer is pointless. It really does end up being about the best academic and soccer fit possible.

So if a kid wants to stay closer to home, be an impact player and have no debt then a VCU full ride is perfect for them. If a kid, like the VCU, player is a very good player, a strong student but not an elite student and getting in at Duke or other high academic schools was the plan that is great too. Their lack of scholarship does not speak against the achievement either.

Some people want soccer to reduce the college bill and others want soccer to improve the school choices. And for many it is a combination of both. It can be hard enough to accomplish even one of the tasks let alone both.

Lots of scholarship money in girls soccer. You’re taking non-sense.

Anonymous wrote:DC is full of morons. These people talking about academics are morons. Duke, UNC, Stanford, UVA, Michigan, UCLA, Princeton, Harvard, Penn State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt, etc, represent elite private and state institutions of higher learning that also have competitive soccer programs. You can have your cake and eat it too. Get real people.

Graduate programs snd high-end employers will take student-athletes all day long.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is full of morons. These people talking about academics are morons. Duke, UNC, Stanford, UVA, Michigan, UCLA, Princeton, Harvard, Penn State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt, etc, represent elite private and state institutions of higher learning that also have competitive soccer programs. You can have your cake and eat it too. Get real people.

Graduate programs snd high-end employers will take student-athletes all day long.

And kids would absolutely go to those programs if soccer gets them in the school. You are a moron for suggesting otherwise. There is enough money in this area that if Soccer gets their kid into Duke without a scholarship they will take Duke over a full ride at VCU.

Or they might take the full ride to VCU. Which would be an amazing accomplishment. I would be ecstatic if my DD had that opportunity.

They might, and they wouldn't be wrong, but the point that scholarship money being used as a measure of achievement, when there is so little of it to go around in Women's soccer is pointless. It really does end up being about the best academic and soccer fit possible.

So if a kid wants to stay closer to home, be an impact player and have no debt then a VCU full ride is perfect for them. If a kid, like the VCU, player is a very good player, a strong student but not an elite student and getting in at Duke or other high academic schools was the plan that is great too. Their lack of scholarship does not speak against the achievement either.

Some people want soccer to reduce the college bill and others want soccer to improve the school choices. And for many it is a combination of both. It can be hard enough to accomplish even one of the tasks let alone both.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is full of morons. These people talking about academics are morons. Duke, UNC, Stanford, UVA, Michigan, UCLA, Princeton, Harvard, Penn State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt, etc, represent elite private and state institutions of higher learning that also have competitive soccer programs. You can have your cake and eat it too. Get real people.

Graduate programs snd high-end employers will take student-athletes all day long.

And kids would absolutely go to those programs if soccer gets them in the school. You are a moron for suggesting otherwise. There is enough money in this area that if Soccer gets their kid into Duke without a scholarship they will take Duke over a full ride at VCU.

Or they might take the full ride to VCU. Which would be an amazing accomplishment. I would be ecstatic if my DD had that opportunity.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is full of morons. These people talking about academics are morons. Duke, UNC, Stanford, UVA, Michigan, UCLA, Princeton, Harvard, Penn State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt, etc, represent elite private and state institutions of higher learning that also have competitive soccer programs. You can have your cake and eat it too. Get real people.

Graduate programs snd high-end employers will take student-athletes all day long.

And kids would absolutely go to those programs if soccer gets them in the school. You are a moron for suggesting otherwise. There is enough money in this area that if Soccer gets their kid into Duke without a scholarship they will take Duke over a full ride at VCU.

Anonymous wrote:DC is full of morons. These people talking about academics are morons. Duke, UNC, Stanford, UVA, Michigan, UCLA, Princeton, Harvard, Penn State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt, etc, represent elite private and state institutions of higher learning that also have competitive soccer programs. You can have your cake and eat it too. Get real people.

Graduate programs snd high-end employers will take student-athletes all day long.