Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 19:33     Subject: Re:Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
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Anonymous wrote:I thought the five-year plan was normal nowadays, especially for engineering.


it is very much the norm. Most kids don't graduate in 4 years anymore.

My brother studied engineering and it took him 5 years as well.

There's nothing wrong with it.


All these state school people need to stop weighing in. THey don't know what they are talking about. At Ivies people do NOT take more than four years to graduate during normal times. That is considered weird.


PP never said he went to a STATE school. I actually cannot stomach your tone. You split the world into the IVIES and the STATE SCHOOLERS. This sounds like a badly written netflix series. The unwashed legions exist to service your family and their ilk.

DCUM is open to all posters, even the undeserving people who did not go to Ivy League schools. (Do you REALLY think prospective employers STUDY CV's and make sure that the months add up to the semester? You sound woefully uninformed .)


I don't think anyone is being cruel to state schoolers, it's just a fact that there's a much lower entry into state schools, which all offer years of remedial courses to lower performing students, who can begin several rungs below college readiness. Of course it's not uncommon for students of that caliber to take more than 4 years for a bachelor's. And nobody really cares because so many other peers are taking five or six years.

But to get into an Ivy these days, overachievers need a near perfect SAT score, nearly all A's, most have upwards of a year of college already completed with AP Exam scores. Among these higher caliber students, in a private college where most students spend all four years together in on campus housing (read social pressure), nearly everyone finishes in 4, if not early.



Yet ~ 50 graduate in 5-6 years every.single.year


I would love to see if those rough 50 that do 5/6 years were hooked or unhooked admits
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 19:16     Subject: Re:Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
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Anonymous wrote:I thought the five-year plan was normal nowadays, especially for engineering.


it is very much the norm. Most kids don't graduate in 4 years anymore.

My brother studied engineering and it took him 5 years as well.

There's nothing wrong with it.


All these state school people need to stop weighing in. THey don't know what they are talking about. At Ivies people do NOT take more than four years to graduate during normal times. That is considered weird.


PP never said he went to a STATE school. I actually cannot stomach your tone. You split the world into the IVIES and the STATE SCHOOLERS. This sounds like a badly written netflix series. The unwashed legions exist to service your family and their ilk.

DCUM is open to all posters, even the undeserving people who did not go to Ivy League schools. (Do you REALLY think prospective employers STUDY CV's and make sure that the months add up to the semester? You sound woefully uninformed .)


I don't think anyone is being cruel to state schoolers, it's just a fact that there's a much lower entry into state schools, which all offer years of remedial courses to lower performing students, who can begin several rungs below college readiness. Of course it's not uncommon for students of that caliber to take more than 4 years for a bachelor's. And nobody really cares because so many other peers are taking five or six years.

But to get into an Ivy these days, overachievers need a near perfect SAT score, nearly all A's, most have upwards of a year of college already completed with AP Exam scores. Among these higher caliber students, in a private college where most students spend all four years together in on campus housing (read social pressure), nearly everyone finishes in 4, if not early.



Yet ~ 50 graduate in 5-6 years every.single.year
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 19:11     Subject: Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
Van wilder
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Post 09/21/2021 19:08     Subject: Re:Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I thought the five-year plan was normal nowadays, especially for engineering.


it is very much the norm. Most kids don't graduate in 4 years anymore.

My brother studied engineering and it took him 5 years as well.

There's nothing wrong with it.


All these state school people need to stop weighing in. THey don't know what they are talking about. At Ivies people do NOT take more than four years to graduate during normal times. That is considered weird.


PP never said he went to a STATE school. I actually cannot stomach your tone. You split the world into the IVIES and the STATE SCHOOLERS. This sounds like a badly written netflix series. The unwashed legions exist to service your family and their ilk.

DCUM is open to all posters, even the undeserving people who did not go to Ivy League schools. (Do you REALLY think prospective employers STUDY CV's and make sure that the months add up to the semester? You sound woefully uninformed .)


I don't think anyone is being cruel to state schoolers, it's just a fact that there's a much lower entry into state schools, which all offer years of remedial courses to lower performing students, who can begin several rungs below college readiness. Of course it's not uncommon for students of that caliber to take more than 4 years for a bachelor's. And nobody really cares because so many other peers are taking five or six years.

But to get into an Ivy these days, overachievers need a near perfect SAT score, nearly all A's, most have upwards of a year of college already completed with AP Exam scores. Among these higher caliber students, in a private college where most students spend all four years together in on campus housing (read social pressure), nearly everyone finishes in 4, if not early.


Not to mention that four years at a state college costs about as much as one year at an Ivy. An extra $20,000 vs. an extra $80,000 makes a bit of a difference.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 18:20     Subject: Re:Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I thought the five-year plan was normal nowadays, especially for engineering.


it is very much the norm. Most kids don't graduate in 4 years anymore.

My brother studied engineering and it took him 5 years as well.

There's nothing wrong with it.


All these state school people need to stop weighing in. THey don't know what they are talking about. At Ivies people do NOT take more than four years to graduate during normal times. That is considered weird.


PP never said he went to a STATE school. I actually cannot stomach your tone. You split the world into the IVIES and the STATE SCHOOLERS. This sounds like a badly written netflix series. The unwashed legions exist to service your family and their ilk.

DCUM is open to all posters, even the undeserving people who did not go to Ivy League schools. (Do you REALLY think prospective employers STUDY CV's and make sure that the months add up to the semester? You sound woefully uninformed .)


I don't think anyone is being cruel to state schoolers, it's just a fact that there's a much lower entry into state schools, which all offer years of remedial courses to lower performing students, who can begin several rungs below college readiness. Of course it's not uncommon for students of that caliber to take more than 4 years for a bachelor's. And nobody really cares because so many other peers are taking five or six years.

But to get into an Ivy these days, overachievers need a near perfect SAT score, nearly all A's, most have upwards of a year of college already completed with AP Exam scores. Among these higher caliber students, in a private college where most students spend all four years together in on campus housing (read social pressure), nearly everyone finishes in 4, if not early.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 17:59     Subject: Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
Anonymous wrote:No joke, I'd fabricate a medical issue.


You are frighteningly quick to lie, about even a minor irregularity on someone's CV.

I can only imagine how you get by in life (and what you have taught your children.)
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 17:57     Subject: Re:Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought the five-year plan was normal nowadays, especially for engineering.


it is very much the norm. Most kids don't graduate in 4 years anymore.

My brother studied engineering and it took him 5 years as well.

There's nothing wrong with it.


All these state school people need to stop weighing in. THey don't know what they are talking about. At Ivies people do NOT take more than four years to graduate during normal times. That is considered weird.


PP never said he went to a STATE school. I actually cannot stomach your tone. You split the world into the IVIES and the STATE SCHOOLERS. This sounds like a badly written netflix series. The unwashed legions exist to service your family and their ilk.

DCUM is open to all posters, even the undeserving people who did not go to Ivy League schools. (Do you REALLY think prospective employers STUDY CV's and make sure that the months add up to the semester? You sound woefully uninformed .)
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 17:53     Subject: Re:Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought the five-year plan was normal nowadays, especially for engineering.


it is very much the norm. Most kids don't graduate in 4 years anymore.

My brother studied engineering and it took him 5 years as well.

There's nothing wrong with it.


All these state school people need to stop weighing in. THey don't know what they are talking about. At Ivies people do NOT take more than four years to graduate during normal times. That is considered weird.


Okay...and, then you go on and live your life.

Not all of us quake in our boots over how we will be perceived by IVY people.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 17:25     Subject: Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
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Anonymous wrote:No joke, I'd fabricate a medical issue.


Don't.

Lying is plain wrong. And even if lying itself isn't problematic to the OP and OP's DS: If the DS is caught, doing this is surely a violation of the college's honor code. And many colleges take the honor codes VERY seriously, and yes, there can be very real consequences for the student.


I meant to friends, friends' parents, and prospective employers. Vague "medical issue" sounds far better than the apparently sketchy truth. "Ehh I dropped courses because online work sucked, so I cost my family like an extra $50,000." I mean, come on, he sounds like a dipshit. Red flags galore.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 17:18     Subject: Re:Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
Anonymous wrote:I'd be furious at the extra year of tuition, room & board.


No Kidding. If he’s just dropping this on you now, then he really needs to contribute to paying for then extra year.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 17:16     Subject: Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
Anonymous wrote:No joke, I'd fabricate a medical issue.


Don't.

Lying is plain wrong. And even if lying itself isn't problematic to the OP and OP's DS: If the DS is caught, doing this is surely a violation of the college's honor code. And many colleges take the honor codes VERY seriously, and yes, there can be very real consequences for the student.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 17:16     Subject: Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
If remote courses continue into 2022-23, isn't doing the fifth year remote a no-brainer? Live with graduating friends in Boston-NYC-California-DC and try to extend the summer 2022 internship into an offer he can work and feel like an adult. Or if in-person is required, stack them to one or two days a week and commute on the Acela?

There's just no way in hell I'd piss away a fifth year of life and be the awkward old guy in a place like New Haven, Princeton, Ithaca, Providence or Hanover.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 17:14     Subject: Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
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Anonymous wrote:Smart kids loaded up on easy online courses to graduate early.




And what did they actually learn? Oh, the ONLY goal was to graduate early. I get it. The goal wasn't to gain any knowledge or skills. I pity their future employers.


you're a moron but I commend you for letting it shine

some kids took couple of summer online courses, everything was online last, you know


Nope, some of us sent our kids to colleges that actually paid attention to Covid and had in-person classes on campus, all year last year. Doubt it if you want, it's true. But you do you!
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 17:07     Subject: Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
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Anonymous wrote:My nephew is at Yale, and took a sabbatical between freshman year and sophomore years because of the pandemic. He has friends from multiple years. This is not a big deal at ALL.

What did he accomplish on his sabbatical? I’m guessing it wasn’t video games and pizza on mom and dad’s couch while dropping online courses.

NP here, also did he incur extra tuition, room and board as a result of this sabbatical? It seems like OP's son's situation is different from your nephew's.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2021 17:01     Subject: Ivy League son just disclosed he's taking five years to graduate.
No joke, I'd fabricate a medical issue.