Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 22:18     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no reason for them to take a baby out in that heat. That itself was negligent. Who takes a baby out for an hours long hike with no shade, when they know the temperature would be over 100 degrees?

That is poor parenting.


Everyone involved is dead and immune to your shaming. Now what?
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 22:15     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no reason for them to take a baby out in that heat. That itself was negligent. Who takes a baby out for an hours long hike with no shade, when they know the temperature would be over 100 degrees?

That is poor parenting.


Do we know they intended an “hours long hike”?


It's impossible to do 8.5 miles with a 25-pound weight strapped to your back in under an hour. Impossible. And the local law enforcement said they'd completed nearly the entire trail.


I’m curious, How does law enforcement know they almost completed the whole trail?


They probably checked their cell phone location history.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 22:11     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no reason for them to take a baby out in that heat. That itself was negligent. Who takes a baby out for an hours long hike with no shade, when they know the temperature would be over 100 degrees?

That is poor parenting.


Do we know they intended an “hours long hike”?


It's impossible to do 8.5 miles with a 25-pound weight strapped to your back in under an hour. Impossible. And the local law enforcement said they'd completed nearly the entire trail.


I’m curious, How does law enforcement know they almost completed the whole trail?
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 22:03     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:This thread makes me feel better about being somewhat of a couch potato.


💯
This doesn’t happen at garden stores or Barnes & Noble where I spend my free time.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 22:02     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:This thread makes me feel better about being somewhat of a couch potato.


+1. Exercise is dangerous!
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 21:58     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no reason for them to take a baby out in that heat. That itself was negligent. Who takes a baby out for an hours long hike with no shade, when they know the temperature would be over 100 degrees?

That is poor parenting.


Do we know they intended an “hours long hike”?


It's impossible to do 8.5 miles with a 25-pound weight strapped to your back in under an hour. Impossible. And the local law enforcement said they'd completed nearly the entire trail.


You jnow they used to say the four minute mile was impossible too. It should only take 32 minutes. /s
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 21:56     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no reason for them to take a baby out in that heat. That itself was negligent. Who takes a baby out for an hours long hike with no shade, when they know the temperature would be over 100 degrees?

That is poor parenting.


Do we know they intended an “hours long hike”?


It's impossible to do 8.5 miles with a 25-pound weight strapped to your back in under an hour. Impossible. And the local law enforcement said they'd completed nearly the entire trail.


Is that what they intended to do?
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 21:34     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?

Would they not check the weather first?

Sometimes you see a family in an airport and the man is ahead carrying nothing, and the woman is behind carrying all the luggage. Who knows if they equally shared carrying the baby, or if one did most of the carrying. He may have been doing most of it to ease her burden.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 21:34     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:If it was a heat-related death, why wouldn’t the medical examiner have picked up on that? Seems like that would be fairly obvious if the organs shut down due to heat exhaustion.

Unless you have a poorly trained ME.


I've followed this thread closely and I also am not clear on this. Unless the ME wants to wait for check the box and allow toxicology results to clear before making an announcement?
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 21:22     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no reason for them to take a baby out in that heat. That itself was negligent. Who takes a baby out for an hours long hike with no shade, when they know the temperature would be over 100 degrees?

That is poor parenting.


Why would you assume that the baby wasn't shaded?


They meant overhead shade. There was no tree cover to shade the hiking trail or cool down the atmosphere/land around them. They were walking in a arid desert in 103F with a baby. Voluntarily.


The timeline isn't actually clear. We don't really know where they went or at what time of day, or the temperature. It was a hot day. But we don't know when they died. We don't know if their deaths were primarily or secondarily heat related or entirely something else.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 21:20     Subject: What happened to this California family?

This thread makes me feel better about being somewhat of a couch potato.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 21:18     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no reason for them to take a baby out in that heat. That itself was negligent. Who takes a baby out for an hours long hike with no shade, when they know the temperature would be over 100 degrees?

That is poor parenting.


Why would you assume that the baby wasn't shaded?


They meant overhead shade. There was no tree cover to shade the hiking trail or cool down the atmosphere/land around them. They were walking in a arid desert in 103F with a baby. Voluntarily.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 21:17     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:How hot was it there the day they died?
Why would anyone go hiking for 8 miles with a little 1-yr old baby?
And why would they hike with a baby in the heat at all?

No way you can properly prepare for hiking 8 hours with a baby, and so so safely. Especially not in the middle of summer.

Hiking in America has gotten out of control. So many people get killed and injured every year in America from hiking. 99% of people are very inexperienced hikers and can find themselves in very real and immediate danger faster than they know. And to involve kids?? Crazy.


Yeah, I don't get it. I was living in Baltimore when I had my baby. There was a heatwave when she was about 9 months. It was 106 when I picked her up from daycare and I was nervous just carrying her the few blocks home. And, I get that dry heat is different, but it's instinctive to protect a baby from extreme weather.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 21:16     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no reason for them to take a baby out in that heat. That itself was negligent. Who takes a baby out for an hours long hike with no shade, when they know the temperature would be over 100 degrees?

That is poor parenting.


Do we know they intended an “hours long hike”?


It's impossible to do 8.5 miles with a 25-pound weight strapped to your back in under an hour. Impossible. And the local law enforcement said they'd completed nearly the entire trail.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 21:13     Subject: What happened to this California family?

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no reason for them to take a baby out in that heat. That itself was negligent. Who takes a baby out for an hours long hike with no shade, when they know the temperature would be over 100 degrees?

That is poor parenting.


Do we know they intended an “hours long hike”?