Anonymous
Post 09/18/2016 12:42     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:He had been in the house many times. All intruder ms bring flashlights and it could be what JB was hit with.
Google Bill McReynolds letter daily camera. Similarities to the ransom note. I find it odd that he used the word scrutiny


I find it odd he wrote in Patsy's handwriting and had knowledge of information known only to the family like the very specific amount of John Ramsey's bonus.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2016 12:37     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

He had been in the house many times. All intruder ms bring flashlights and it could be what JB was hit with.
Google Bill McReynolds letter daily camera. Similarities to the ransom note. I find it odd that he used the word scrutiny
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2016 12:26     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

But for it to be Santa or an intruder, wouldn't they need to turn the lights on? At some point? So that they could even see what they were doing?
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2016 10:04     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Santa was probably the only one of the suspects to write a rambling note.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2016 10:02     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:NP here.

I didn't follow the case closely when it happened - but at the time I figured it was the weird pageant mom. Now that I see that actually the media really built that up - and that she was actually a fairly normal kid with a few pageants a year - I think most of the evidence points to Santa. I think he knew the Ramsey's were going to be at a party for hours, got into the house that he knew well, and took his sweet time writing that ransom note to throw off police (not because he actually wanted money). He has a pattern of going on and on...in the note, at the funeral, and later in interviews when he should have just shut up. Maybe his wife was involved, I don't know. The ransom note seemed like him and his wife. Seemed like theater. Patsy didn't strike me as someone who watched Dirty Harry and Speed a lot.

Big red flag that he begged Patsy to have the party on the premise that some filmmaker/photographer was going to be there and the guy wasn't there? It was odd he wanted her to have the party so much and it turned out he wanted it under false pretenses. Clearly he knew the house well. Clearly he had an unhealthy fixation with JB. That whole secret thing was a huge red flag too.

As for the Ramsey's - the only things that add up to them doing it come from too many competing theories. Like it was premeditated (they ordered the American Girl so they would have a back up, or they fed her pineapple for some reason) which goes against the theory that Patsy was outraged she had had an accident, hit her, then had to elaborately stage her death.

The tombstone saying Dec. 25 to me was not odd either. They were religious so that date probably made more sense to them. And like others have said, they probably wanted to think of her last day of life as the last day they spent together, not the horrific incidents of December 26.

I'm pretty cynical - as are a lot of people. The whole, "people don't want to believe parents could do such a thing" doesn't ring true. As others have said, parents DO do this kind of thing, but not in such a bizarre way.



I agree with you it could have been Santa. He could have been alone or had an accomplice- his wife, his son Jesse, Michael Hegloth, or another unknown peodophile. I find it odd that his daughter and her friend were kidnapped and the friend sexually assulted 12/26 twenty-two years before and his daughter was not harmed in anyway. That sounds like someone who had a fixation with the friend but didn't want their own daughter harmed. When he was first interviewed by police he didn't even mention this. When police found out about it he said he forgot because it was so long ago. I don't think you would ever forget that. I think it is odd that the police didn't find any of his beard hairs from when he was there on 12/23. The last day the housekeeper was at the house was 12/23 helping with the party. The house would not have been vacuumed after that party. The police if they had been doing their job would have found hair/Dna of him in that house from 12/23. That shows how poor the whole crime scene was taken care of. There would be no fingerprints or blood from the suspect if they wore gloves and did not bleed. Also they thought the body had been wiped down. The killer could have brought a lint brush and used wet towels or baby wipes if he was worried about leaving anything behind. Santa's handwriting was never eliminated either. Santa was probate he only one of all the suspects that would write a three page ransom note. That was the strangest clue from the crime scene. He may have disguised his writing and intent but he could not disguise his rambling ego to go on and on.The police and press were fixated on the Ramseys so the killer was never caught.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2016 09:42     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The series is very sanitized. Jonbenet had gone to the doctor 66 times for bladder infections in her short life. She was sexualized Her dad probably killed her and all the rest is a cover up. Finding the body in the house and the un disturbed window are the main clues.


Wow, that's pretty shocking. Why didnt her pediatrician refer her to a specialist? I would have demanded it if my child had chronic sinusitis, chronic utis or chronic vaginitis. What the hevk was going on with JonBenet?


She had rich parents. None of you readers know anyone who was abused but no one knew it? Secrets around the neighborhood or school?
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2016 09:36     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Lol to the poster who believes Websleathes is factual.
Anonymous
Post 09/18/2016 09:33     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:The series is very sanitized. Jonbenet had gone to the doctor 66 times for bladder infections in her short life. She was sexualized Her dad probably killed her and all the rest is a cover up. Finding the body in the house and the un disturbed window are the main clues.


Wow, that's pretty shocking. Why didnt her pediatrician refer her to a specialist? I would have demanded it if my child had chronic sinusitis, chronic utis or chronic vaginitis. What the hevk was going on with JonBenet?
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2016 23:18     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:NP here.

I didn't follow the case closely when it happened - but at the time I figured it was the weird pageant mom. Now that I see that actually the media really built that up - and that she was actually a fairly normal kid with a few pageants a year - I think most of the evidence points to Santa. I think he knew the Ramsey's were going to be at a party for hours, got into the house that he knew well, and took his sweet time writing that ransom note to throw off police (not because he actually wanted money). He has a pattern of going on and on...in the note, at the funeral, and later in interviews when he should have just shut up. Maybe his wife was involved, I don't know. The ransom note seemed like him and his wife. Seemed like theater. Patsy didn't strike me as someone who watched Dirty Harry and Speed a lot.

Big red flag that he begged Patsy to have the party on the premise that some filmmaker/photographer was going to be there and the guy wasn't there? It was odd he wanted her to have the party so much and it turned out he wanted it under false pretenses. Clearly he knew the house well. Clearly he had an unhealthy fixation with JB. That whole secret thing was a huge red flag too.

As for the Ramsey's - the only things that add up to them doing it come from too many competing theories. Like it was premeditated (they ordered the American Girl so they would have a back up, or they fed her pineapple for some reason) which goes against the theory that Patsy was outraged she had had an accident, hit her, then had to elaborately stage her death.

The tombstone saying Dec. 25 to me was not odd either. They were religious so that date probably made more sense to them. And like others have said, they probably wanted to think of her last day of life as the last day they spent together, not the horrific incidents of December 26.

I'm pretty cynical - as are a lot of people. The whole, "people don't want to believe parents could do such a thing" doesn't ring true. As others have said, parents DO do this kind of thing, but not in such a bizarre way.


I completely agree with you. I, too, always thought the Ramsey's did it because I was just paying attention to the Boulder Police and the media. When I heard more about all the facts, it just doesn't make sense it's the Ramsey's. They might've done some peculiar things that we all think we wouldn't have done in that situation, but I don't think those strange things equal murder.

I also think it was Santa and his wife helped. She at least wrote that melodramatic ransom note. Perhaps she knew Patsy's writing and tried her best to imitate it. Mr and Mrs Clause doing it also explains why JB would've gone with them quietly downstairs. If you picture the sequence of events with Santa and Mrs Clause being the perpetrators, it makes much more sense than loving parents who had never so much as spanked their child committing a heinous murder.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2016 22:11     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

NP here.

I didn't follow the case closely when it happened - but at the time I figured it was the weird pageant mom. Now that I see that actually the media really built that up - and that she was actually a fairly normal kid with a few pageants a year - I think most of the evidence points to Santa. I think he knew the Ramsey's were going to be at a party for hours, got into the house that he knew well, and took his sweet time writing that ransom note to throw off police (not because he actually wanted money). He has a pattern of going on and on...in the note, at the funeral, and later in interviews when he should have just shut up. Maybe his wife was involved, I don't know. The ransom note seemed like him and his wife. Seemed like theater. Patsy didn't strike me as someone who watched Dirty Harry and Speed a lot.

Big red flag that he begged Patsy to have the party on the premise that some filmmaker/photographer was going to be there and the guy wasn't there? It was odd he wanted her to have the party so much and it turned out he wanted it under false pretenses. Clearly he knew the house well. Clearly he had an unhealthy fixation with JB. That whole secret thing was a huge red flag too.

As for the Ramsey's - the only things that add up to them doing it come from too many competing theories. Like it was premeditated (they ordered the American Girl so they would have a back up, or they fed her pineapple for some reason) which goes against the theory that Patsy was outraged she had had an accident, hit her, then had to elaborately stage her death.

The tombstone saying Dec. 25 to me was not odd either. They were religious so that date probably made more sense to them. And like others have said, they probably wanted to think of her last day of life as the last day they spent together, not the horrific incidents of December 26.

I'm pretty cynical - as are a lot of people. The whole, "people don't want to believe parents could do such a thing" doesn't ring true. As others have said, parents DO do this kind of thing, but not in such a bizarre way.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2016 21:08     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This from websleuths:
Indications of sexual abuse:
-Degraded hymen
-Vaginal opening twice as large as it should be
-Evidence of tissue healing showing abuse to vaginal area days prior to her death
-Soiling/defecating issues while asleep and awake
-More than one vaginal infection/UTI over the years from the medical records we know of (there are several calls to Dr. Boeuf and visits to the school RN that were for issues that havent been disclosed)
-JR fibers found in new underwear she had never worn before
-Sexual staging of crime with paintbrush in vagina yet no other indication of other penetration

Rather than discredit these facts, please reply pointing to other facts that would question these facts.


Her own physician said no signs of abuse?

Her own physician was close friends of the parents.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2016 20:22     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:This from websleuths:
Indications of sexual abuse:
-Degraded hymen
-Vaginal opening twice as large as it should be
-Evidence of tissue healing showing abuse to vaginal area days prior to her death
-Soiling/defecating issues while asleep and awake
-More than one vaginal infection/UTI over the years from the medical records we know of (there are several calls to Dr. Boeuf and visits to the school RN that were for issues that havent been disclosed)
-JR fibers found in new underwear she had never worn before
-Sexual staging of crime with paintbrush in vagina yet no other indication of other penetration

Rather than discredit these facts, please reply pointing to other facts that would question these facts.


Her own physician said no signs of abuse?
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2016 20:18     Subject: Re:Who did you think killed JonBenet?

This from websleuths:
Indications of sexual abuse:
-Degraded hymen
-Vaginal opening twice as large as it should be
-Evidence of tissue healing showing abuse to vaginal area days prior to her death
-Soiling/defecating issues while asleep and awake
-More than one vaginal infection/UTI over the years from the medical records we know of (there are several calls to Dr. Boeuf and visits to the school RN that were for issues that havent been disclosed)
-JR fibers found in new underwear she had never worn before
-Sexual staging of crime with paintbrush in vagina yet no other indication of other penetration

Rather than discredit these facts, please reply pointing to other facts that would question these facts.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2016 20:04     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:The series is very sanitized. Jonbenet had gone to the doctor 66 times for bladder infections in her short life. She was sexualized Her dad probably killed her and all the rest is a cover up. Finding the body in the house and the un disturbed window are the main clues.


Link?
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2016 19:57     Subject: Who did you think killed JonBenet?

Anonymous wrote:The series is very sanitized. Jonbenet had gone to the doctor 66 times for bladder infections in her short life. She was sexualized Her dad probably killed her and all the rest is a cover up. Finding the body in the house and the undisturbed window are the main clues.


Even if this was true, which I doubt, it does not indicate sexual abuse. It's a sign of kidney reflux, which is VERY common in little girls. Her pediatrician said she had no history of sexual abuse.