Anonymous wrote:I have never heard anyone come on any of these AAP threads and say their kid isn't "thriving."
My observation is that in grades 3-6, that isn't too hard to do.

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Anonymous wrote:A teacher here.... It amazes me how important it is to parents to have their kid in AAP. Most don't belong but God forbid the parents hear that! Does it matter to the child's future? NO! Many parents do not send their children to the AAP middle school and once the child gets to high school everyone is in the same place. Do you really believe that elementary school AAP will help your child be more successful in the future? Highly unlikely! Many of the AAP kids have been groomed by their parents and constantly told how brilliant they are. Many therefore have no work ethic as they believe they are God given geniuses. So many of the AAP kids do so little and no matter how bright they may actually be, do not belong there as they produce nada! Parents, your snowflake needs to actually do something to justify their AAP placement!!! You, as parents, have set many of your children up for immense disappointment when reality sets in and they actually need to do something as they get older to justify their placement. I also do interviews for my alma mater Harvard and it is so sad how many kids think they belong but based on their work ethic are immediately tossed into the reject pile. Focus on work ethic and discipline parents. Worry not about AAP!

So there's the report card and parent/teacher conference.
My kids in AAP are thriving and getting pretty good report card.

Everyone in AAP is "thriving," was there a parent orientation instructing AAP parents to use that word?

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Anonymous wrote:A teacher here.... It amazes me how important it is to parents to have their kid in AAP. Most don't belong but God forbid the parents hear that! Does it matter to the child's future? NO! Many parents do not send their children to the AAP middle school and once the child gets to high school everyone is in the same place. Do you really believe that elementary school AAP will help your child be more successful in the future? Highly unlikely! Many of the AAP kids have been groomed by their parents and constantly told how brilliant they are. Many therefore have no work ethic as they believe they are God given geniuses. So many of the AAP kids do so little and no matter how bright they may actually be, do not belong there as they produce nada! Parents, your snowflake needs to actually do something to justify their AAP placement!!! You, as parents, have set many of your children up for immense disappointment when reality sets in and they actually need to do something as they get older to justify their placement. I also do interviews for my alma mater Harvard and it is so sad how many kids think they belong but based on their work ethic are immediately tossed into the reject pile. Focus on work ethic and discipline parents. Worry not about AAP!

So there's the report card and parent/teacher conference.
My kids in AAP are thriving and getting pretty good report card.

Anonymous wrote:A teacher here.... It amazes me how important it is to parents to have their kid in AAP. Most don't belong but God forbid the parents hear that! Does it matter to the child's future? NO! Many parents do not send their children to the AAP middle school and once the child gets to high school everyone is in the same place. Do you really believe that elementary school AAP will help your child be more successful in the future? Highly unlikely! Many of the AAP kids have been groomed by their parents and constantly told how brilliant they are. Many therefore have no work ethic as they believe they are God given geniuses. So many of the AAP kids do so little and no matter how bright they may actually be, do not belong there as they produce nada! Parents, your snowflake needs to actually do something to justify their AAP placement!!! You, as parents, have set many of your children up for immense disappointment when reality sets in and they actually need to do something as they get older to justify their placement. I also do interviews for my alma mater Harvard and it is so sad how many kids think they belong but based on their work ethic are immediately tossed into the reject pile. Focus on work ethic and discipline parents. Worry not about AAP!

Anonymous wrote:A teacher here.... It amazes me how important it is to parents to have their kid in AAP. Most don't belong but God forbid the parents hear that! Does it matter to the child's future? NO! Many parents do not send their children to the AAP middle school and once the child gets to high school everyone is in the same place. Do you really believe that elementary school AAP will help your child be more successful in the future? Highly unlikely! Many of the AAP kids have been groomed by their parents and constantly told how brilliant they are. Many therefore have no work ethic as they believe they are God given geniuses. So many of the AAP kids do so little and no matter how bright they may actually be, do not belong there as they produce nada! Parents, your snowflake needs to actually do something to justify their AAP placement!!! You, as parents, have set many of your children up for immense disappointment when reality sets in and they actually need to do something as they get older to justify their placement. I also do interviews for my alma mater Harvard and it is so sad how many kids think they belong but based on their work ethic are immediately tossed into the reject pile. Focus on work ethic and discipline parents. Worry not about AAP!

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teacher here.... It amazes me how important it is to parents to have their kid in AAP. Most don't belong but God forbid the parents hear that! Does it matter to the child's future? NO! Many parents do not send their children to the AAP middle school and once the child gets to high school everyone is in the same place. Do you really believe that elementary school AAP will help your child be more successful in the future? Highly unlikely! Many of the AAP kids have been groomed by their parents and constantly told how brilliant they are. Many therefore have no work ethic as they believe they are God given geniuses. So many of the AAP kids do so little and no matter how bright they may actually be, do not belong there as they produce nada! Parents, your snowflake needs to actually do something to justify their AAP placement!!! You, as parents, have set many of your children up for immense disappointment when reality sets in and they actually need to do something as they get older to justify their placement. I also do interviews for my alma mater Harvard and it is so sad how many kids think they belong but based on their work ethic are immediately tossed into the reject pile. Focus on work ethic and discipline parents. Worry not about AAP!

Umm, so a rising 2nd grader should first be published in the New Yorker or perhaps a peer reviewed scientific journal before getting into the AAP program? Wow. This is moving way beyond mere CoGAT test prep.

In any case, Ivy League admissions sound worse than I thought -- So, Ms. Snowflake would please explain to me again what it is that you accomplished to justify getting into AAP? Please young lady take your time before answering.

One of the main reasons that I am so glad that my child was accepted into the AAP program and has been there for 3 years now is that her peers are academically motivated and disciplined in addition to being smart. Perhaps being told that you are brilliant all the time is an Ivy League thing but it has not been happening with my child or any of her friends.

teacher here.... It amazes me how important it is to parents to have their kid in AAP. Most don't belong but God forbid the parents hear that! Does it matter to the child's future? NO! Many parents do not send their children to the AAP middle school and once the child gets to high school everyone is in the same place. Do you really believe that elementary school AAP will help your child be more successful in the future? Highly unlikely! Many of the AAP kids have been groomed by their parents and constantly told how brilliant they are. Many therefore have no work ethic as they believe they are God given geniuses. So many of the AAP kids do so little and no matter how bright they may actually be, do not belong there as they produce nada! Parents, your snowflake needs to actually do something to justify their AAP placement!!! You, as parents, have set many of your children up for immense disappointment when reality sets in and they actually need to do something as they get older to justify their placement. I also do interviews for my alma mater Harvard and it is so sad how many kids think they belong but based on their work ethic are immediately tossed into the reject pile. Focus on work ethic and discipline parents. Worry not about AAP!

A teacher here.... It amazes me how important it is to parents to have their kid in AAP. Most don't belong but God forbid the parents hear that! Does it matter to the child's future? NO! Many parents do not send their children to the AAP middle school and once the child gets to high school everyone is in the same place. Do you really believe that elementary school AAP will help your child be more successful in the future? Highly unlikely! Many of the AAP kids have been groomed by their parents and constantly told how brilliant they are. Many therefore have no work ethic as they believe they are God given geniuses. So many of the AAP kids do so little and no matter how bright they may actually be, do not belong there as they produce nada! Parents, your snowflake needs to actually do something to justify their AAP placement!!! You, as parents, have set many of your children up for immense disappointment when reality sets in and they actually need to do something as they get older to justify their placement. I also do interviews for my alma mater Harvard and it is so sad how many kids think they belong but based on their work ethic are immediately tossed into the reject pile. Focus on work ethic and discipline parents. Worry not about AAP!

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the explanation of the difference again:

This thread is complete bull. You want to make it so prepping for the CogAT is the same as practicing sports. The same as music.
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It is different. Prepping for the CogAT by using sample questions is akin to forging a birth certificate so an older kid can play on a younger travel team. It is like the elite athlete trying to be the best by taking Human Growth Hormones. It is like the mucisian using a recorded piece instead of a live piece at a concert.

In all fields, there are ways to cheat. And at all levels.

I have seen, in house sports leagues, teams breaking rules on recruiting at the 8 yo level.

It happens. And it is wrong.

Where is the explanation?

It is by analogy. The examples are supposed to be clear examples of cheating, as opposed to solid work ethic and practice.

Prepping by practice tests does nothing for the long run other than inflate a score for the sake of inflating a score (to help one get into AAP). And "practicing" activity should have the goal of allowing the child's brain to properly develop. Not for raising the score on a single test. Raising an intelligent child should be the goal. The CogAT is a metric but not the goal.
The thing is you can inflate the CogAT without increasing the underlying ability to do anything more than take the CogAT. That is a false metric.

And again the problem is, the county knows this goes on. They do not know who specifically has CogAT's that are unreliable. But, if the CogAT is out of whack with the rest of the file, they seem to discount the CogAT (either way). They devalue the CogAT because some people prep.

And this screws over some truly gifted kids who are gifted type II. So, thanks for that!