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Anonymous wrote:What were the actual policy points that JD laid out last night.... Like what is his position on who won the 2020 election on affordable child care on affordable healthcare??

Go replay it or read the transcript, he was very clear and articulate.

All I got was he is married to A nice looking woman and child care is a young woman issue

And how many times did he mention his beautiful family and his three beautiful children? I almost threw something at the screen. Especially how he slid over the issue of gun control and kids being in danger at school. His three beautiful children I'm sure have no such worries in their wealthy bubble.

Why would anyone who has children in private schools worry about it? I am a first generation immigrant and both my children are in elite private school in suburban DC. Vance wants every parents have a choice to put their children to the school of their choice.

Gald you have the resources to send your kid to private school. But the public should not be paying for that choice. And the proposal to simply eliminate the US Department of Education, as Projext2025 calls for would absolutely gut public education, one of the pillars of a democracy, to the ground.

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Anonymous wrote:Vance didn't respond to Walz about the Haitian eating cats and dogs!

Of course he didn't. He also didn't respond when asked if Trump lost the election in 2020 or on whether he'd separate migrant kids from their parents. He's a lawyer--skilled at avoiding the questions where his answers aren't popular and switching topics to where he'd rather be talking about.

He did exactly what he should have done - avoided stupid ‘gotcha’ questions and spoke truth: migrant kids are being used and abused as I type this.

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Anonymous wrote:This has got to be the same one or two Vance ass kissers replying to themselves or to each other, right? They sound exactly the same.

Yep.

Unlike several Russian trolls who pumping Walz's publicity?

Anonymous wrote:Anyone wondering why the debate moderators didn’t talk about:

-the military service records of either candidate?

-the two assassination attempts on Trump’s life?

Why were those topics not covered?

1. Military service - both served honorably but also n very different ways. Not much there worth wasting precious debate minutes over.

Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance served four years in USMC public affairs, including one uneventful six-month deployment to Iraq. He went from a broken home life to a GI Bill education that culminated at Yale Law School.

Walz is also positive military role model from central casting: The high school teacher and coach, juggling his family and job with serving in his state National Guard one weekend a month and two weeks per year.

Walz joined the Guard when he was 17 years old. He’d just hit his 20 years for retirement when 9/11 happened, and he reenlisted. Over the course of his 24 years, he deployed for various natural disasters, and for one year to Italy in support of the war in Afghanistan.


2. The two assassination attempts on Trump -are more related to presidential security and secret service which is being investigated and overhauled already due to the secret service being spread too thin - required to conduct surveillance/ intelligence in addition to physical protection of public figures. Also The first wannabe presidential hitman is a registered Republican. The second one is mentally ill.

IMO the real public issue around the two Assassination attempts are gun safety and lack of resources for the mentally ill, which the debate did cover although not in depth. Guess which candidate has more policy ideas for reducing both gun violence and untreated mental illness?

It was bizarre that Vance declared the US has far higher rates of mental illness than Finland as a plausible explanation for sky high school gun violence in the US. Universal health care would provide mental health care to all who need it and Trump almost killed the Affordable Care Act twice even though Vance falsely declared he saved it.


The moderators raising your two questions in the way you suggest would not have focused on core issues.

Anonymous wrote:This has got to be the same one or two Vance ass kissers replying to themselves or to each other, right? They sound exactly the same.

Yep.

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Anonymous wrote:Vance is unflappable, articulate, quick thinking and will be a formidable debate opponent. I’m not voting his ticket but this is my honest opinion. Out of the candidates on both tickets he is the strongest debater.

He is also much younger than ol’ man Walz. I just wonder if Vance might hold back due to respect for someone so much older than himself?

Vance was just like Obama: smooth, polished and very well put together in his appearance and in his thoughts. Out of four of them, he is the most presidential unfortunately.

Smooth speaking matters not at all when you lie.

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Anonymous wrote:Walz, the governor of Minnesota, seemed to get off on the wrong foot right from the start when he mixed up Iran and Israel when asked about how he would advise the president on a preemptive strike by Israel against Iran.

“Iran, or I, uh, Israel’s ability to be able to defend itself is fundamental,” he said initially. Moments later he said “the expansion of Israel and its proxies” is a fundamental necessity for the United States to steady leadership there.


Other times, Walz seemed nervous and unsure of himself. He spoke so rapidly at times that he stumbled over his words.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/01/who-won-vp-debate/75351338007/

USA Today is correct; Walz looked and sounded extremely nervous and made verbal stumbles throughout the night.

Vance was calm, cool, and collected. He never responded in anger or frustration, or took the bait and made the debate contentious. He gave a master class in political debate.

Every politician has rich friends, takes money from their rich friends.


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Walz looked like the weirdo…apparently the whole “Vance is weird” thing was a deflection and projection on the part of democrats, who
have an old looking man who lies about everything running as their VP.

Anyone fact check Walz’s claim that his son witnessed a shooting? Any evidence that actually happened?

Yep

One side is Soros, other side is Thiel. Same same

Vance looks like he could deal with world leaders

Voting for Vance cos anything could happen to Trump in 4 years

Vance, the guy who wrote the forward for the Project2025 book, the guy who called for suspending the constitution, the guy who said he would do what Pence wouldn't.

Lovely.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris/Walz offers nothing to voters. How will my life improve under Harris 2.0? It didn’t improve under the first Harris/Biden reign.

This is the thing about maga, and it’s so disgusting: it’s only about themselves. What about the country? What about women?

Actually, the PP is copying this exact statement from a few pages ago but switched out Harris/Walz for Trump/Vance. Guess there are plenty of “disgusting” selfish Democrats too!

The truth is, everyone is voting for who they see as best to serve them and their wants/needs.

This is what will be different about this election. Even people who cared about policies and social justice will be putting their own interest first at this election.

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Anonymous wrote:Vance is unflappable, articulate, quick thinking and will be a formidable debate opponent. I’m not voting his ticket but this is my honest opinion. Out of the candidates on both tickets he is the strongest debater.

He is also much younger than ol’ man Walz. I just wonder if Vance might hold back due to respect for someone so much older than himself?

Vance was just like Obama: smooth, polished and very well put together in his appearance and in his thoughts. Out of four of them, he is the most presidential unfortunately.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone wondering why the debate moderators didn’t talk about:

-the military service records of either candidate?

-the two assassination attempts on Trump’s life?

Why were those topics not covered?

I am more concerned that they didn't raise Ukraine and Vance's affinity to Russia versus Walz patriotic support of democracy at home and abroad.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris/Walz offers nothing to voters. How will my life improve under Harris 2.0? It didn’t improve under the first Harris/Biden reign.

This is the thing about maga, and it’s so disgusting: it’s only about themselves. What about the country? What about women?

Actually, the PP is copying this exact statement from a few pages ago but switched out Harris/Walz for Trump/Vance. Guess there are plenty of “disgusting” selfish Democrats too!

The truth is, everyone is voting for who they see as best to serve them and their wants/needs.

Anonymous wrote:Tim Walz will use JD's Ivy League and Silicon Valley pedigree against him tonight. Just watch.

He didn't. Tim was too focused on defending Harris's failures. And was angry most of the time that he was not making the point.

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Anonymous wrote:My debate coach used to have us debate And one side got to completely make up facts..... It was funny how easy it is to debate when truth and statistics and information that you say really does not matter. It was to prepare us for teams that were slick and fast talkers.
I think Tim maybe needed a little more prep, but let's be honest there was no way he was going to win when it does not matter what the other side says. Jd didn't even have to prep. He could just literally make up whatever he wanted in the moment based on what Tim said and know that it does not matter at all to his voters

Walz is too old and too politically experienced to act like a nervous wreck during a single debate.

He was a senior enlisted leader in the US military and a football coach, but was in shambles last night. Something isn’t right about that.

Any man that doesn’t act like a toxic frat bro and bully people is “in shambles” for MAGA.

Vance didn’t act like a toxic frat bro.

Walz called himself a knucklehead. What a joke. Why would anyone vote for a self described knucklehead?

People with humility. Very typical for a Minnesotan.

Being humble is great, admitting you are an idiot is not great.

Nobody running for VP should have to explain their lies and misstatements as occurring because they are a knucklehead. That’s ridiculous.

Walz admitted he’s not fit for office. It’s embarrassing.

Cool. So when is Vance going to address all the lies he told last night.
Walz: not smooth and slimy. Substantive and truthful.
Vance: slippery smooth and lying all night long

There were zero substance in Walz's speeches yesterday. Delivery was very poorly executed too.

Fact check: Walz talked a lot of specifics on programs and plans.
Also fact check: Vance told scores of material lies.

Anonymous wrote:Prediction: both sides will claim victory and both sides will have good moments. No one will really step in it unlike the Harris/Trump and Biden/Trump debates earlier this cycle. Vance will definitely say something super weird though.

You predicted wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish Tim would have worn his glasses

"I'm a knucklehead at times... I misspoke on this," Walz admitted when addressing discrepancies in his reported travel history to Hong Kong in 1989, as reported by several news outlets.

Does he and his wife have a same medical condition? They both look a little bit crazy with bulging eyes. I am not saying it is a mental condition, could be just a thyroid issues.

Walz actually looked scared at times last night.

Given how smooth a lair Vance is, we were all scared.