Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 14:56     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
BB was not charged in the murder of JR, AP was.

VA claims BB was not IN the home when JR was shot. That is the basis of the charge against AP.

AP's lawyer put both AP and BB in the room when JR was killed. So if he is lying about that, or she lied to him about that, all of what he said is discredited, no?

If VA is correct, what did the actual timeline look like, setting aside the story of AP.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 14:52     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Also interesting that AP's lawyer is admitting that she shot Ryan dead -- but in his telling, it was after BB shot him the first time and didn't kill him. Then Ryan was flailing about and threatening AP. So, she got BB's other gun from the bathroom and shot Ryan right then and there.

Not sure why their story doesn't have BB shooting Ryan more than once -- oh wait -- that's because their story has to fit the medical/ballistic facts that AP actually DID shoot Ryan.

In real life, every LEO is trained to shoot to kill. Once you start shooting, you don't stop until the threat is completely neutralized. So, there is no world where a real LEO would shoot an alleged murderer (i.e. Ryan stabbing CB), and then tell the nanny to get a gun and finish the job.


LEOs are trained to shoot until the threat is stopped, not trained 'to kill.'
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 14:37     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Ate
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 14:37     Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The zoo thing is plausible, I guess, but only just.


I still don’t get that piece at all, are they saying they were rushing out to do a quick morning trip to the zoo before school at 9? That seems totally unbelievable to me


BB is stupid. A man with a damaged, fragile ego will cut off his nose to spit his face.

BB then eat his own damn nose.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 14:27     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought law-enforcement‘s wording in the press conference when a reporter asked for clarification about the charges was interesting. they said she was charged with second-degree murder and that she fired the shot killed him. (they did not say fired all the shots or that they were other shots, but I thought the wording of fire the shot that killed him to be interesting).

If he had already been shot once by BB and was blinded, it’s very unlikely he would have been a threat! So she had time to think about further shooting him, which makes sense for second degree Murder and not manslaughter/self defense.


Yes. But they also said BB was outside the home when AP shot JR. Trying to make sense of how that played out.


This seems to contradict most of what her lawyer claimed.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 14:13     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Many parts of their story are stupid. Like, she called 911 the first time but wasn't sure what to say. Exactly -- you see a man who didn't break into your house but walked in. Still, you're immediately calling 911 and grabbing the gun.
I also wonder whether they knew anything about JR. Not sure they would've picked him if they knew he was trained in martial arts, had no criminal record, and adopted puppies.


He may well have been resistant to being a patsy and losing his life, in a way they did not anticipate.

He was a goofy LARPer and kind to the elderly too!
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 13:38     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:I thought law-enforcement‘s wording in the press conference when a reporter asked for clarification about the charges was interesting. they said she was charged with second-degree murder and that she fired the shot killed him. (they did not say fired all the shots or that they were other shots, but I thought the wording of fire the shot that killed him to be interesting).

If he had already been shot once by BB and was blinded, it’s very unlikely he would have been a threat! So she had time to think about further shooting him, which makes sense for second degree Murder and not manslaughter/self defense.


Good point - and the only other person who could have fired the non lethal shot would have been BB. But since he hasn’t been charged yet, it follows that they want to wring some info out of AP before charging him.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 13:35     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Many parts of their story are stupid. Like, she called 911 the first time but wasn't sure what to say. Exactly -- you see a man who didn't break into your house but walked in. Still, you're immediately calling 911 and grabbing the gun.
I also wonder whether they knew anything about JR. Not sure they would've picked him if they knew he was trained in martial arts, had no criminal record, and adopted puppies.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 13:30     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Wait. Is a defense lawyer allowed to tell a client to get another passport after theirs has been confiscated by LE?!?
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 13:18     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:I thought law-enforcement‘s wording in the press conference when a reporter asked for clarification about the charges was interesting. they said she was charged with second-degree murder and that she fired the shot killed him. (they did not say fired all the shots or that they were other shots, but I thought the wording of fire the shot that killed him to be interesting).

If he had already been shot once by BB and was blinded, it’s very unlikely he would have been a threat! So she had time to think about further shooting him, which makes sense for second degree Murder and not manslaughter/self defense.


Yes. But they also said BB was outside the home when AP shot JR. Trying to make sense of how that played out.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 13:04     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
I thought law-enforcement‘s wording in the press conference when a reporter asked for clarification about the charges was interesting. they said she was charged with second-degree murder and that she fired the shot killed him. (they did not say fired all the shots or that they were other shots, but I thought the wording of fire the shot that killed him to be interesting).

If he had already been shot once by BB and was blinded, it’s very unlikely he would have been a threat! So she had time to think about further shooting him, which makes sense for second degree Murder and not manslaughter/self defense.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 13:03     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
^ we still
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 13:00     Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
[P]rosecutors said that someone other than Banfield set up an account on a fetish website and that Ryan responded to it. They added that it was part of a plan that would allow Magalhaes and Banfield’s husband to end up together.


https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/local/virginia/nanny-charged-murder-denied-bond-brazil-passport/65-a76c7728-3e74-46e5-ad73-4ac3681ac847

This seems to suggest there had been no longstanding romantic relationship between CB and JR, which tracks with posts by his friends that stated he had met them very recently.

Starkly different stories about the underlying dynamics and how it all went down that day.

We got the AP's version that was spun as most favorable to her, yesterday. That is not necessarily true or even all that close to the truth. It's very different from the state's version.

I don't even see how her version was all that helpful to her and BB and she has an experienced criminal attorney. He still don't have the "other side" of the case in detail. Not sure a jury will buy her timeline re: the shooting, time will tell.  
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 12:13     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does the story they told fit with LE saying BB was out of the home when JR was shot?


It doesn't, because the AP's attorney is claiming BB shot JR first.


More to come re: that I suppose, if/when someone is charged with the stabbing.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 11:37     Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As many have stated, yes the zoo does still require timed entry passes to get in. but the buildings don't open until 9, so going that early in the winter means you are wandering around outside without seeing really anything for at least an hour. it just doesn't make sense.

Parking-wise it's relatively easy to find street parking in mt. pleasant, especially in the morning on a weekday when people are leaving for work. I haven't read that much, but did they say anything about planning to park? I'm just not sure why that matters here.


Again, I also don't believe the story, but if you're driving from Herndon to the national zoo, it's going to take you at least an hour. The earlier you leave, the better the traffic. I would definitely leave as early as possible and just take my kid to Starbucks for 30 minutes in order to avoid sitting in traffic for 90 minutes rather than 60 minutes.


If you roll up on Conn Ave at exactly 9:28 you can park on the street right across from the entrance. But the buses know this too so you have to be right on time.