Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
From the transcript of her latest podcast:
“Yes, and also abusive. And when I got to kind of pull up 50,000 feet and look down on that and realize that, first of all, not only is the cognitive dissonance untenable, you just simply cannot relegate an all-loving God with eternal damnation, torment. Those don't match.”

A few sentences later:

“It is not true at all.
And certainly about the idea of hell.”

And later in the discussion:
“And they're always like, Mom, we know you don't believe in hell anymore. We're not afraid of it, okay? I'm like, well, you know what?
This exploration is safe because there's no hell. They're like, we know. You keep telling us.”

Jen used to hold to fairly traditional mainstream Christian views, and now, all of a sudden, she just changes course without explaining the change in her thought process.

She can say that she has done the work of deconstructing, but she really hasn't done any actual work. Changing your mind about something either because 1) it doesn't align with how you want to live your life now or 2) society has changed and doesn't want to hear it anymore isn't "doing the work." It's actually pretty easy to change your position to go with the flow.

There are a lot of people who don't believe in hell, but has she ever explained why she has changed her mind on this and NOW it's not real?

You can disagree with the purity culture of the 90's and still recognize that casual meaningless $ex can sometimes be problematic. Her $ex Me Course and all of her recent discussions with her $expert are for everyone: single, dating, married, etc. Did she ever say, "I used to believe this about $sex, but I believe that the Bible clearly says that it is okay for me to have carnal relations with my boyfriend before we get married." (Or even if we don't get married. Also, whether they are actually "doing it" has been questioned.)

Did she ever say, "Look. I used to believe that the Bible said such and such about homosexuality. Now that I have done some research and compared some texts, I believe that I was wrong." From what I have seen, her daughter came out or was struggling with coming out, and BOOM! now we don't believe any of that anymore.

The problem is that she just wakes up one morning and says, "I now believe this, so this is the truth." And everyone just is supposed to accept it. Which I think she would say was the problem in the past with a lot of churches - just believing what was said from the pulpit without actually studying the Bible to see if that is what was actually said. Now SHE can just come on a podcast or write an IG post and say, "You know what? Hell doesn't exist. $ex? No rules!! Gays? It's not in there."

I would have a lot more respect for her if she would at least pretend to back up some of what she says instead of just changing the narrative and hoping that no one notices how she has flip-flopped her position.

Your flaw in this is that Jen isn't a thinker. She hasn't connected those dots for her readers because she has not connected them for herself. If you sat with her one-on-one and asked her to explain her rationale for these questions you posed, she probably could not. Someone at some point, when she was on top of her game, told her she needed to appeal to the secular crowd more. I know her "team" has shrunk with her book sales, social media following, and her popularity in general, but I'm sure someone somewhere advises her on what her target market wants to hear from her. Badly, I suspect, but that's subjective.

I'm not calling Jen stupid but she is what my mama would have called "simple." But she's cute and this is the internet and I'm certain the accolades she gets from whatever peabrains are out there are affirming. She has the megaphone and a scripted message that is cobbled together by cut/paste liberal talking points and drivel that makes people feel good about their choices.

Anonymous wrote:
From the transcript of her latest podcast:
“Yes, and also abusive. And when I got to kind of pull up 50,000 feet and look down on that and realize that, first of all, not only is the cognitive dissonance untenable, you just simply cannot relegate an all-loving God with eternal damnation, torment. Those don't match.”

A few sentences later:

“It is not true at all.
And certainly about the idea of hell.”

And later in the discussion:
“And they're always like, Mom, we know you don't believe in hell anymore. We're not afraid of it, okay? I'm like, well, you know what?
This exploration is safe because there's no hell. They're like, we know. You keep telling us.”

Anonymous wrote:Jen Hatmaker is the mean girl at Bible camp.