Just watched her story vid from the park in nyc - ohh myy she really does think she is ALL THAT doesn’t she…🙄 conceited and condescending and full of herself and insufferable if you ask me.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did she say "if God is love, then hell doesn't exist"? Because if yes, that would be the nail in the coffin for me. She'll officially be parked in the false teacher lot. Which I feel like she's flirted with quite a bit, but this would be a new level of garbage.

From the transcript of her latest podcast:
“Yes, and also abusive. And when I got to kind of pull up 50,000 feet and look down on that and realize that, first of all, not only is the cognitive dissonance untenable, you just simply cannot relegate an all-loving God with eternal damnation, torment. Those don't match.”

A few sentences later:

“It is not true at all.
And certainly about the idea of hell.”

And later in the discussion:
“And they're always like, Mom, we know you don't believe in hell anymore. We're not afraid of it, okay? I'm like, well, you know what?
This exploration is safe because there's no hell. They're like, we know. You keep telling us.”

Relegate seems like the wrong word in that sentence. Beyond that, the entire content of that sentence is utterly vapid. It comes off as a shallow rationalization, not the expression of someone genuinely wrestling with difficult truths. For her own sake, Jen needs to stop and reflect on the influence her words have on others, and what that means for her and then if she's wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a liberal Episcopal but even I roll my eyes at these deconstructionists. It feels like they’re just trying to play up to an audience. And they all sound the exact same! We get it, you were embarrassed remembering your fundy youth camp and purity ring. My God, we get it.

A phase many people have "deconstructed" privately, long before their late 40's, without feeling the need to "instruct" everyone else. I also roll my eyes at the way they didn't question the narrative, because it was working for their image, their lives, while ignorning the people who were suffering from not being able to fit into the framework, preaching it right up until life smacks them in the face, then all the sudden, they are "deconstructing". Like this would have been a lot more impressive if you had done this when you were 30.

Yes. Exactly!

Anonymous wrote:I’m a liberal Episcopal but even I roll my eyes at these deconstructionists. It feels like they’re just trying to play up to an audience. And they all sound the exact same! We get it, you were embarrassed remembering your fundy youth camp and purity ring. My God, we get it.

A phase many people have "deconstructed" privately, long before their late 40's, without feeling the need to "instruct" everyone else. I also roll my eyes at the way they didn't question the narrative, because it was working for their image, their lives, while ignorning the people who were suffering from not being able to fit into the framework, preaching it right up until life smacks them in the face, then all the sudden, they are "deconstructing". Like this would have been a lot more impressive if you had done this when you were 30.

Anonymous wrote:Um... you guys... (smack lips, play with hair)...I'm in New York with Tyler because he's on (whisper) GMA tomorrow! And tonight... in one hour.. we are going to see Othello! I'm not really sure what the story line is, but it's got (whisper) Denzel in it!! I told Tyler, O my gosh!! Denzel!!! (is it weird to tell my boyfriend that I am excited to see another black guy?) but Tyler said, "Girl, I get it!!" (hmmm.... that comment may need to be explored a bit further wink wink) But anyway, guys.... ummm.. (smack, play with hair) I'm in New York and this city is just so magical. I practically live here now. Also, go buy Tyler's book. Okay, off to see Denzel!!!

Yes, and she seems on some kind of substance. Her eyes are red and glassy, the fidgeting is worse than usual.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did she say "if God is love, then hell doesn't exist"? Because if yes, that would be the nail in the coffin for me. She'll officially be parked in the false teacher lot. Which I feel like she's flirted with quite a bit, but this would be a new level of garbage.

From the transcript of her latest podcast:
“Yes, and also abusive. And when I got to kind of pull up 50,000 feet and look down on that and realize that, first of all, not only is the cognitive dissonance untenable, you just simply cannot relegate an all-loving God with eternal damnation, torment. Those don't match.”

A few sentences later:

“It is not true at all.
And certainly about the idea of hell.”

And later in the discussion:
“And they're always like, Mom, we know you don't believe in hell anymore. We're not afraid of it, okay? I'm like, well, you know what?
This exploration is safe because there's no hell. They're like, we know. You keep telling us.”

In Jen’s version, Jesus meets the woman at the well and says, “You have no husband. You’re shacking up. No worries. Exploration is safe. Go, and sin some more…..”

Anonymous wrote:Jen is still stuck in 1995 when a 5 min guest slot on GMA was a huge flex.

He's on GMA 3, which, according to their website, airs at 1:00 Eastern. Who is even watching a non-morning, morning show at 1 in the afternoon? This is not a big deal.

Jen is no longer a Christian in any real sense. She says she’s a “Follower of Jesus” but that can mean anything. The hard teaching of the faith she’s jettisoned completely. I don’t think she even goes to church anymore. Too painful, she’d say. Even though the last church she attended she built in her own self image. She’s just another in a long line of ex-believers who’s faith was always inch deep and who grossly used their deep cultural ties to the community of their youth to build up their personal brands.

The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away.

Anonymous wrote:Did she say "if God is love, then hell doesn't exist"? Because if yes, that would be the nail in the coffin for me. She'll officially be parked in the false teacher lot. Which I feel like she's flirted with quite a bit, but this would be a new level of garbage.

From the transcript of her latest podcast:
“Yes, and also abusive. And when I got to kind of pull up 50,000 feet and look down on that and realize that, first of all, not only is the cognitive dissonance untenable, you just simply cannot relegate an all-loving God with eternal damnation, torment. Those don't match.”

A few sentences later:

“It is not true at all.
And certainly about the idea of hell.”

And later in the discussion:
“And they're always like, Mom, we know you don't believe in hell anymore. We're not afraid of it, okay? I'm like, well, you know what?
This exploration is safe because there's no hell. They're like, we know. You keep telling us.”

Jen speaks of Tyler like he’s some sort of cultural token for her audience.

Did she say "if God is love, then hell doesn't exist"? Because if yes, that would be the nail in the coffin for me. She'll officially be parked in the false teacher lot. Which I feel like she's flirted with quite a bit, but this would be a new level of garbage.

Jen is still stuck in 1995 when a 5 min guest slot on GMA was a huge flex.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I told Tyler, O my gosh!! Denzel!!! (is it weird to tell my boyfriend that I am excited to see another black guy?) but Tyler said, "Girl, I get it!!" (hmmm.... that comment may need to be explored a bit further wink wink)

I came here to comment on this but then couldn’t even find the words. She’s so weird, and not in a good way.

I also thought, "What a weird thing to say." She is 3 years into this faux-lationship, and she still needs to constantly remind us that she is dating a black guy.

My husband and I are both white. My celebrity crush was Anthony Bourdain (RIP). The topic doesn't come up often, but why would I need to say, "Is it weird to tell my husband that I'm attracted to another white guy?"

Also, Tyler loses his sh!t every other day about white women, and he somehow doesn't find the need to get Jen's approval about it.

I also find this so strange. My husband and I are white and two of my children are not white. I do not see the need to point it out. It is 2025, sis. You do not get a gold star for "dating" a black guy. People see he's black because they have eyes. And if they do not have eyes or if they are blind, Trevor will reveal that he is black within the first 30 seconds of meeting them and remind them and remind them again that HE IS A BLACK MAN. So yes, Jen. We KNOW he is Black.

I find other men attractive all the time. My "hall pass" if you will is Chris Hemsworth. Hot Thor, not dad bod Thor. I see no reason to explain this to my husband. This only highlights her emotional immaturity.

Also the level of ick in comparing Trevor to Denzel is off the charts. EW.

No one has bought Tyler’s new book!

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Anonymous wrote:Um... you guys... (smack lips, play with hair)...I'm in New York with Tyler because he's on (whisper) GMA tomorrow! And tonight... in one hour.. we are going to see Othello! I'm not really sure what the story line is, but it's got (whisper) Denzel in it!! I told Tyler, O my gosh!! Denzel!!! (is it weird to tell my boyfriend that I am excited to see another black guy?) but Tyler said, "Girl, I get it!!" (hmmm.... that comment may need to be explored a bit further wink wink) But anyway, guys.... ummm.. (smack, play with hair) I'm in New York and this city is just so magical. I practically live here now. Also, go buy Tyler's book. Okay, off to see Denzel!!!

I can't see her stories so thanks for the epic description. I can't even with the whispering.

I wonder if Tyler secretly wishes she wouldn't insist on tagging along.