Anonymous
Post 03/15/2018 11:50     Subject: Re:This Is Us -- Season 2
I just have one observation about who the "her" is in the Tess/Randall future scene. I feel confident that it is someone they are both angry at/hurt by. Some people are speculating it's Beth, who is sick, or something like that - no, I don't think it's Beth that they need to see. It's someone who has done something unforgivable, IMO.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2018 10:59     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
Anonymous wrote:
Something happens to Beth and Annie - why do we only see Tess and Randall in the flash forwards?


There have only been two, right? For all we know, Beth is having a superstar career* and Annie lives a thousand miles away.*

I agree with the PP that the show loves to expectations on their head, so I don't think this is as simple as Deja smashes windows and ruins her life. Maybe her biomom comes back into her life after Deja is grown, and Randall and Beth's family tries to rally round, but it's miserable?



*Is anyone else bugged by how Beth just went zoop! back into a career in a couple of weeks after being out of the workforce for years? Not to turn this into a battle about the merits of SAH vs WOH, because circumstances change and careers come and go, but the speed just blew my mind.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2018 09:46     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just finished watching... holy.

+1 major depression

I think maybe Deja ends up causing harm to the youngest daughter Annie. Possibly unintentionally.


If I were playing Worst Case Scenario, that would have been the first thing I said!


It was interesting when Beth and Randall were playing it they didn't mention Annie, just about Deja and Tess and ending up on the pole.


Maybe this is a sign that Annie is the "Kevin" of her generation in that she will be the child who seems fine & therefore often has her emotional needs inadvertently overlooked? If this it is the case, it could be her that the future Tess knows she needs to go see but doesn't feel ready to see & she could be somewhere like a psychiatric ward after a suicide attempt, in the hospital with a feeding tube due to anorexia, or in prison on drug related charges.

Or maybe -- & this is my best guess -- Annie is in rehab after being arrested for driving under the influence of narcotics with Tess's child secretly stowed away in backseat of the car which is why Tess doesn't know is ready to see her -- she is just too angry. But maybe the fact that Annie was there for her when she had a major anxiety attack the year before will help convince Tess to join Randall & Deja on their trip to visit Annie in rehab. And maybe once there, the four of them will have a very intense family therapy session with a therapist who looks a lot like Meredith Grey's mother in which Annie will confront Randall about the fact that he & Beth (who will have died tragically several years earlier but we won't find out exactly how for quite a while) were always too worried about the possibility of Deja killing them or of both Deja & Tess ending on the pole to pay any attention to her -- even when she was drowning! -- & always made her feel like a fifth wheel in her own famil, causing her to turn to first football, then acting & then finally opiods to cope.

Well, hopefully the parallels won't be quite that obvious


Anonymous
Post 03/15/2018 09:06     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
I cried when Jack gave the speech to Kate about her future wedding.

Agree Toby is manic depressive.

Something happens to Beth and Annie - why do we only see Tess and Randall in the future flash forwards?
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2018 01:59     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just finished watching... holy.

+1 major depression

I think maybe Deja ends up causing harm to the youngest daughter Annie. Possibly unintentionally.


If I were playing Worst Case Scenario, that would have been the first thing I said!


It was interesting when Beth and Randall were playing it they didn't mention Annie, just about Deja and Tess and ending up on the pole.


Maybe this is a sign that Annie is the "Kevin" of her generation in that she will be the child who seems fine & therefore often has her emotional needs inadvertently overlooked? If this it is the case, it could be her that the future Tess knows she needs to go see but doesn't feel ready to see & she could be somewhere like a psychiatric ward after a suicide attempt, in the hospital with a feeding tube due to anorexia, or in prison on drug related charges.

Or maybe -- & this is my best guess -- Annie is in rehab after being arrested for driving under the influence of narcotics with Tess's child secretly stowed away in backseat of the car which is why Tess doesn't know is ready to see her -- she is just too angry. But maybe the fact that Annie was there for her when she had a major anxiety attack the year before will help convince Tess to join Randall & Deja on their trip to visit Annie in rehab. And maybe once there, the four of them will have a very intense family therapy session with a therapist who looks a lot like Meredith Grey's mother in which Annie will confront Randall about the fact that he & Beth (who will have died tragically several years earlier but we won't find out exactly how for quite a while) were always too worried about the possibility of Deja killing them or of both Deja & Tess ending on the pole to pay any attention to her -- even when she was drowning! -- & always made her feel like a fifth wheel in her own famil, causing her to turn to first football, then acting & then finally opiods to cope.

Well, hopefully the parallels won't be quite that obvious
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 23:58     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just finished watching... holy.

+1 major depression

I think maybe Deja ends up causing harm to the youngest daughter Annie. Possibly unintentionally.


If I were playing Worst Case Scenario, that would have been the first thing I said!


It was interesting when Beth and Randall were playing it they didn't mention Annie, just about Deja and Tess and ending up on the pole.


OMG, I was laughing so hard during that scene!
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 23:58     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just finished watching... holy.

+1 major depression

I think maybe Deja ends up causing harm to the youngest daughter Annie. Possibly unintentionally.


If I were playing Worst Case Scenario, that would have been the first thing I said!



I love Kevin. He always cracks me up!
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 23:56     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
Anonymous wrote:I thought that, too but the show likes to keep us guessing and that's seems like a logical plot line.

I thought perhaps they are showing Rebecca dying and Randall and Tess are going to say goodbye? Maybe they have been by her side but know it's the end.


This is what I'm thinking too. Either they have to go take Rebecca off of life support (this is in the future, so she's probably quite old), or Beth is on life support or possibly has Alzheimer's. Something like that. Possibly visiting Deja in prison, but I hope the show doesn't take that turn. I really hope she's just going through a very understandable angry phase, but that she winds up having a happy life.

I honestly don't understand why her mom relinquished her parental rights. Couldn't she just have let Deja live with Randall and Beth and still remained in her life?
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 23:48     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
Anonymous wrote:This show is never going to end, is it?


No, think they will drag this out as long as possible.

The finale fell kind of flat for me.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 23:46     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
I got more of a sense that it was either Beth or Annie. I would be surprised if Deja was still in their lives 13 years in the future.

My first thought was either one was very ill or already died.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 22:47     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
Maybe Deja left their house under some painful circumstances. Not necessarily injury or death, but maybe there were drugs involved, anger issues requiring therapeutic care, etc. Maybe she reached out. Maybe her mother stopped the court proceedings and the Pearsons were devastated when she left.

Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 22:29     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
I don't think this is Deja doing something horrible. This show is pro-adoption/foster and I can't imagine them bringing in that narrative.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 21:42     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But Tess is grown up and Randall is oldish, so whatever they were intimating by the pan to Beth is ten years in the future.

I think Toby is manic depressive. He's always so hyper and animated. A year later, he's in a depression, probably with no real situation to bring it on. Maybe he kept it from Kate.


+1 for the Toby theory

Didn’t Randall say to Tess that she would live with him until she was 25 and then they’d have dinner every week? So my guess: Tess is 25 (I know she looks older, but the way that set is lit ... although she could be older, too), Deja inadvertently killed Beth in an accident or in a rage, Deja is in prison serving a long sentence, and Randall is determined to go see her. With Tess.

Possible she killed Annie too. But my guess is Beth.


Very interested in all of these tess / Randall theories. My first interputation when I watched was that they might be visiting a grave, maybe of Rebecca, or possibly beth or one of the daughters… But for some reason I first thought about visiting a grave. I didn't jump to Deja In prison or hurting anyone but that's definitely an angle that could play out
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 20:43     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But Tess is grown up and Randall is oldish, so whatever they were intimating by the pan to Beth is ten years in the future.

I think Toby is manic depressive. He's always so hyper and animated. A year later, he's in a depression, probably with no real situation to bring it on. Maybe he kept it from Kate.


+1 for the Toby theory

Didn’t Randall say to Tess that she would live with him until she was 25 and then they’d have dinner every week? So my guess: Tess is 25 (I know she looks older, but the way that set is lit ... although she could be older, too), Deja inadvertently killed Beth in an accident or in a rage, Deja is in prison serving a long sentence, and Randall is determined to go see her. With Tess.

Possible she killed Annie too. But my guess is Beth.


I read that the producer said it is 13 years in the future.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2018 20:30     Subject: This Is Us -- Season 2
This show is never going to end, is it?