At least this group of consultants know that people have seen what they did and what the school board did so they know that people are blaming the school board.

The first three scenarios were ridiculous though. I blame that on the school board not being clear that they only needed to focus on MS and HS. Leaving the ES in for movement, when none was needed, was flat out stupid. But those were probably the instructions they were given.

The Westfield situation is interesting b/c both sets of consultants made sensible proposals over and over again that were killed or altered by special interests in FCPS. They have repeatedly tried to move a balanced SES mix of kids over to Westfield to fill seats.

They tried under multiple scenarios to fix the Bull Run split feeder by moving all of BRES to Westfield, that idea was mysteriously changed behind the scenes in the last iteration to just one apartment building going to Westfield instead and all the SFHs--including Dixit's area-- staying at CVHS. There is no way it was the consultant's idea to create a new Westfield island like that.

They tried to balance out Westfield and solve the capacity issue by moving the entire Lees Corner boundary, that idea was canceled.

Then they tried to add half of Brookfield with a balanced mix of neighborhoods and someone edited the map to remove the SFH neighborhoods.

Would love to see the back and forth communication between FCPS and the consultants on this. I'm sure they are exasperated.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. Scenario 2 slices Franklin Farm by combining Chantilly Highlands HOA to send part of Franklin Farm neighborhood that is above Franklin Farm Road to Carson and Skyview and the Franklin Farm neighborhood below Franklin Farm Road to Franklin and Chantilly HS. All we are asking is for Scenario 1 that would send our entire Franklin Farm neighborhood to Franklin instead of Carson and Skyview, so our kids can stay together. Let Chantilly Highlands go to Carson.

I’m sorry, but this is really confusing - not sure if it’s just me. I think the focus should be on a school not on HOA’s?

Yes. They ALL go to Oak Hill Elementary School.

Parts of Chantilly Highlands and Franklin Farm are right next door to one another. Like literally nextdoor neighbors.
From what I hear, most of the Franklin Farm group that are in Oak Hill boundary want to stay with their Oak Hill cohort.
Carson and Franklin are 1.5 miles apart. A small group lives across the road from Franklin and are walkers. So, the dilemma is whether to have Oak Hill be a split feeder or whether to let a small group split off and go to Franklin/Chantilly. Some of the kids that are "walkers" to Franklin are currently bused to Carson.

Most people I know in that area want to stay with Oak Hill friends.

I suspect the tweaking that was mentioned my Kyle is moving the Franklin MS Oak Hill kids to Carson and Skyview.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. Scenario 2 slices Franklin Farm by combining Chantilly Highlands HOA to send part of Franklin Farm neighborhood that is above Franklin Farm Road to Carson and Skyview and the Franklin Farm neighborhood below Franklin Farm Road to Franklin and Chantilly HS. All we are asking is for Scenario 1 that would send our entire Franklin Farm neighborhood to Franklin instead of Carson and Skyview, so our kids can stay together. Let Chantilly Highlands go to Carson.

I’m sorry, but this is really confusing - not sure if it’s just me. I think the focus should be on a school not on HOA’s?

Yes. They ALL go to Oak Hill Elementary School.

Parts of Chantilly Highlands and Franklin Farm are right next door to one another. Like literally nextdoor neighbors.
From what I hear, most of the Franklin Farm group that are in Oak Hill boundary want to stay with their Oak Hill cohort.
Carson and Franklin are 1.5 miles apart. A small group lives across the road from Franklin and are walkers. So, the dilemma is whether to have Oak Hill be a split feeder or whether to let a small group split off and go to Franklin/Chantilly. Some of the kids that are "walkers" to Franklin are currently bused to Carson.

Most people I know in that area want to stay with Oak Hill friends.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be more than 800 empty seats, because once Westfield reaches a tipping point with too high a FARMs percentage and not enough advanced classes, all the zoned families will use FCPS transfer mechanisms to get their kids in Centreville, Skyview, Chantilly, etc, or send their kids to private.

A functioning school system would have taken the information that no one wanted to be rezoned to Westfield as a sign that the school needs some attention and improvement. FCPS decided to just go ahead and try to make it worse.

You forget that Coates and McNair - two very high FARMS schools - are being zoned out of Westfield.

PP didn't forget. They are ignoring it on purpose because they want to make it out like Westfield is somehow going to be like Lewis after this. I think their FARMS rate will actually go down when all is said and done. Now the shady dealings Dixit has done to get her neighborhood excluded need to be exposed so I really hope everyone is calling it out on the boundary tool to get the numbers of comments so high that it's will be hard (or at least embarrassing) to ignore it.

I think that Westfield dropping to 74% capacity is crazy but the school will keep the Teachers needed for the classes that they kids are enrolling in. If there is a major drop in FARMs kids and a smaller drop in UMC kids, then there should still be a good number of kids enrolling in the AP classes and those classes should be offered. The big change might come in the availability of classes for gen ed and speciality programs for English language learners and the like. The Floris kids moving will impact the number of kids enrolling in AP classes, which could effect the number of available sections but I doubt that the number is large enough to prevent a wide swath of classes being offered.

SLHS will see a drop in the kids taking IB classes, although I am not sure by how much. I know that Floris and Fox Mill kids pupil placed out of SLHS and a good number only took a few IB classes as it is. That is why SLHS wasn't able to offer as many HL classes as other IB schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. Scenario 2 slices Franklin Farm by combining Chantilly Highlands HOA to send part of Franklin Farm neighborhood that is above Franklin Farm Road to Carson and Skyview and the Franklin Farm neighborhood below Franklin Farm Road to Franklin and Chantilly HS. All we are asking is for Scenario 1 that would send our entire Franklin Farm neighborhood to Franklin instead of Carson and Skyview, so our kids can stay together. Let Chantilly Highlands go to Carson.

I’m sorry, but this is really confusing - not sure if it’s just me. I think the focus should be on a school not on HOA’s?

FCPS does not consider HOAs when drawing lines. Never has. They also don’t consider zip codes or any political boundaries.

Anonymous wrote:Agreed. Scenario 2 slices Franklin Farm by combining Chantilly Highlands HOA to send part of Franklin Farm neighborhood that is above Franklin Farm Road to Carson and Skyview and the Franklin Farm neighborhood below Franklin Farm Road to Franklin and Chantilly HS. All we are asking is for Scenario 1 that would send our entire Franklin Farm neighborhood to Franklin instead of Carson and Skyview, so our kids can stay together. Let Chantilly Highlands go to Carson.

I’m sorry, but this is really confusing - not sure if it’s just me. I think the focus should be on a school not on HOA’s?

Agreed. Scenario 2 slices Franklin Farm by combining Chantilly Highlands HOA to send part of Franklin Farm neighborhood that is above Franklin Farm Road to Carson and Skyview and the Franklin Farm neighborhood below Franklin Farm Road to Franklin and Chantilly HS. All we are asking is for Scenario 1 that would send our entire Franklin Farm neighborhood to Franklin instead of Carson and Skyview, so our kids can stay together. Let Chantilly Highlands go to Carson.

281 homes is a lot. An entire neighborhood. Not really "isolated".

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I thought I heard McDaniel say he supports children attending schools within walking distance. Under Scenario 1, Franklin/Skyview, we are within walking distance to Franklin MS. Is McDaniel in favor of making kids go to Carson MS instead of attending Franklin MS? [/quote]'
Oak Hill parents on the call were BEGGING him to move kids in your neighborhood from Franklin to Carson, so you'd better organize your neighbors and get your voices heard if you don't want that to happen.[/quote]

Yes. Pretty sure they were Frankllin Farm parents of kids who go to Oak Hill. People seem to think Franklin Farm is only Crossfield and Navy.[/quote]

Right, Franklin Farm HOA has always been split into East and West with Fairfax County Pkwy running north/south.
[b]East:[/b] (think Crossfield ES) Crossfield/Oakton challenges (Scenario 2 seems most popular, [b]splits western Franklin Farm at Franklin Farm Rd.[/b])
[b]West:[/b] (think Oak Hill ES) Split in half vs. staying together (Scenario 1 - Keeps kids together, seems most popular, splits eastern Franklin Farm)

Western Franklin Farm has only asked to move the boundary line in Scenario 2 to avoid splitting it in half, and then East/West (seemingly) keeps most kids together.

Meaning:
1. Move the boundary from Franklin Farm Rd south. To Lees Corner Rd/Thompson Rd - West Franklin Farm goes to Carson/Skyview
2. Move the boundary north to the HOA boundary at Chantilly Highlands, West Franklin Farm goes to Franklin, MS (but this could create another split feeder)[/quote]

You're wrong about the bolded. The split only includes one street from Franklin Farm. The rest are all separate small neighborhoods.[/quote]

No, it’s not wrong. Remember—this is focusing on WESTERN Franklin Farm—Not Eastern, (east of Fairfax County Parkway.)
Franklin Farm Rd., between Centreville Rd. And Fairfax County Pkwy, goes through the middle of the western HOA. Scenario 2 isolates 281 homes in the HOA south of Franklin Farm Rd. (These homes back up against Lees Corner and Thompson Rd) and homes north of Franklin Farm Rd. Were paired with Chantilly Highlands, a separate HOA. There are HOA fences and tree lines that separate the two.

The scenario creates an attendance island for the southern side, and splits up kids going to the same pools, parks, teams, paths, etc.

So, that boundary needs to be moved to the HOA boundary with Chantilly Highlands or south to Lees Corner/Thompson Rd.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be more than 800 empty seats, because once Westfield reaches a tipping point with too high a FARMs percentage and not enough advanced classes, all the zoned families will use FCPS transfer mechanisms to get their kids in Centreville, Skyview, Chantilly, etc, or send their kids to private.

A functioning school system would have taken the information that no one wanted to be rezoned to Westfield as a sign that the school needs some attention and improvement. FCPS decided to just go ahead and try to make it worse.

You forget that Coates and McNair - two very high FARMS schools - are being zoned out of Westfield.

PP didn't forget. They are ignoring it on purpose because they want to make it out like Westfield is somehow going to be like Lewis after this. I think their FARMS rate will actually go down when all is said and done. Now the shady dealings Dixit has done to get her neighborhood excluded need to be exposed so I really hope everyone is calling it out on the boundary tool to get the numbers of comments so high that it's will be hard (or at least embarrassing) to ignore it.

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing with Meren. She’s not actually very good at her job and she’s incapable of getting things done.

So her entire persona is opposing whatever the superintendent recommends. She does this to generate click bait social media posts painting herself as some martyr.

Meanwhile she’s mishandled the calendar, AI, and technology issues, and now she’s been asleep at the switch for Skyview and desperate for a way out.

So when she has to vote for whatever Skyview map is recommended, she will vote against it and blame the superintendent for some contrived “process” excuse.

This is exactly right. Meren has been so frustrating during the entire boundary and Skyview purchase processes. Her entire schtick has just been to play contrarian and then make a video on Facebook about it. She never actually contributes anything useful or tries to accomplish anything - only tries to slow things down and appeal to the people who are unhappy with whatever FCPS is trying to do.

Meren needs fired/ousted/kicked the f*ck out of office!

Meren doesn’t control anything. All she can do is say things that will appeal to the Reston folks who think South Lakes is the center of the universe or potentially put her in a position to say “I told you so” if Skyview runs into problems.

If you think about it, McDaniel taking such an active role is probably intended to position him as one of the main spokespersons for the majority bloc - which does not include Meren - to do what they want.

Here’s the thing with Meren. She’s not actually very good at her job and she’s incapable of getting things done.

So her entire persona is opposing whatever the superintendent recommends. She does this to generate click bait social media posts painting herself as some martyr.

Meanwhile she’s mishandled the calendar, AI, and technology issues, and now she’s been asleep at the switch for Skyview and desperate for a way out.

So when she has to vote for whatever Skyview map is recommended, she will vote against it and blame the superintendent for some contrived “process” excuse.