Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 19:13     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wasnt that the age group where one of the teams wasnt having games or practices all spring but paid full price?
all HS age RL teams do not have a spring season. 05/06 07 08 09s… All.. the lower teams will attempt to have a season with pool players.. this is true of all clubs with RL teams..


So why do the kids on those teams pay full price when they only have half a year of practices and games?


Good question
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 17:28     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:q re: 2016 age groups--is it true that we will not receive an offer for an actual team or specific coach but they won't place kids on teams until after the summer? How can we weigh that against other offers? Its all so vague


Yes this is true to a certain extent. They probably already know who are some of the top team players are and who are their bottom players and are just going to try and fill the rest of the roster spots in the first couple months. Valor will tell
you in the beginning that the roster is fluid. IT IS NOT.

Once you are on a team your kid will mostly likely stay there unless a kid leaves or when they move up in team size but besides those two occasions we have only witnessed one player move up a team and it wasn't even during the season but once the season was over and the move was from 3rd to 2nd team.


Just remember all they want is your money. That is their priority, not developing skilled players.


I can tell you that for the younger boys age groups there is more movement than what you have described. We have seen at least 7 or 8 boys get moved up or down a level, including midseason. We were always given the impression that rosters were not totally fluid, but that movement was possible if was best for the kid and team.

This is where parents need to do an honest assessment of how their kid compares to others. Were they crushing it at tryouts? Are they bigger/faster/stronger than a lot of the other kids? Are they in the pre-travel program and standing out there? If so, there's a good chance they will end up on the first or second team. Was your kid more inconsistent at tryouts? Are they on the smaller side without really good skllls to compensate? Not doing the pre-travel program and thus unknown to the coaches? I know nothing about soccer, but I was still able to guess where my son would end up just by observing those things.


Adjusting a handful of kids up or down just one level when you have 5-6 teams is not "fluid rosters"


I was responding to the PP’s assertion that players never get moved. Truly fluid rosters sound like they would be a mess. You would never know when and where kid’s games would be each weekend.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 16:32     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wasnt that the age group where one of the teams wasnt having games or practices all spring but paid full price?
all HS age RL teams do not have a spring season. 05/06 07 08 09s… All.. the lower teams will attempt to have a season with pool players.. this is true of all clubs with RL teams..


So why do the kids on those teams pay full price when they only have half a year of practices and games?
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 16:04     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:Wasnt that the age group where one of the teams wasnt having games or practices all spring but paid full price?
all HS age RL teams do not have a spring season. 05/06 07 08 09s… All.. the lower teams will attempt to have a season with pool players.. this is true of all clubs with RL teams..
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 15:34     Subject: Valor
Wasnt that the age group where one of the teams wasnt having games or practices all spring but paid full price?
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 15:20     Subject: Re:Valor
Anonymous wrote:Looking forward to our Mother's Day tryout -- current coach of 2009B Gold is saying there are 40 kids from outside the club coming to tryout!
Maybe he meant 14 or 4. Or 40 for all of Valor?


How many of those 09B are going to return? It sounds like you have numbers for 3 teams.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 14:20     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:What "couple of local clubs" are "having issues"? Valor seems to have the most issues.
not true. There are alot of clubs in area smaller then valor
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 14:07     Subject: Valor
the only suprising part of that story is that valor let the coach say no
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 14:05     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:q re: 2016 age groups--is it true that we will not receive an offer for an actual team or specific coach but they won't place kids on teams until after the summer? How can we weigh that against other offers? Its all so vague


Yes this is true to a certain extent. They probably already know who are some of the top team players are and who are their bottom players and are just going to try and fill the rest of the roster spots in the first couple months. Valor will tell
you in the beginning that the roster is fluid. IT IS NOT.

Once you are on a team your kid will mostly likely stay there unless a kid leaves or when they move up in team size but besides those two occasions we have only witnessed one player move up a team and it wasn't even during the season but once the season was over and the move was from 3rd to 2nd team.


Just remember all they want is your money. That is their priority, not developing skilled players.


I can tell you that for the younger boys age groups there is more movement than what you have described. We have seen at least 7 or 8 boys get moved up or down a level, including midseason. We were always given the impression that rosters were not totally fluid, but that movement was possible if was best for the kid and team.

This is where parents need to do an honest assessment of how their kid compares to others. Were they crushing it at tryouts? Are they bigger/faster/stronger than a lot of the other kids? Are they in the pre-travel program and standing out there? If so, there's a good chance they will end up on the first or second team. Was your kid more inconsistent at tryouts? Are they on the smaller side without really good skllls to compensate? Not doing the pre-travel program and thus unknown to the coaches? I know nothing about soccer, but I was still able to guess where my son would end up just by observing those things.


We had one kid on our top team that should have never been there. However their parents had 3 kids at the club. 9K worth of revenue so when the parents approached the team wanting their kids to only play on the top teams guess who caved and let a kid on gold?
VALOR
This kid struggled throughout the years. It took a toll on them and they really stopped enjoying the game.
We finally got a coach who said "no" to them and they ended up leaving the club with all 3 children. Which is what valor was trying to prevent.
Valor is too money hungry to do the right thing. it took a coach saying absolutely no for it to register with the parents that their kid is just not good enough to be on gold.
That player is now on a second team somewhere in the DMV and thriving.
Valor does not have your kids best interest at heart
They only care that your credit card payment clears.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 12:59     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:q re: 2016 age groups--is it true that we will not receive an offer for an actual team or specific coach but they won't place kids on teams until after the summer? How can we weigh that against other offers? Its all so vague


Yes this is true to a certain extent. They probably already know who are some of the top team players are and who are their bottom players and are just going to try and fill the rest of the roster spots in the first couple months. Valor will tell
you in the beginning that the roster is fluid. IT IS NOT.

Once you are on a team your kid will mostly likely stay there unless a kid leaves or when they move up in team size but besides those two occasions we have only witnessed one player move up a team and it wasn't even during the season but once the season was over and the move was from 3rd to 2nd team.


Just remember all they want is your money. That is their priority, not developing skilled players.


I can tell you that for the younger boys age groups there is more movement than what you have described. We have seen at least 7 or 8 boys get moved up or down a level, including midseason. We were always given the impression that rosters were not totally fluid, but that movement was possible if was best for the kid and team.

This is where parents need to do an honest assessment of how their kid compares to others. Were they crushing it at tryouts? Are they bigger/faster/stronger than a lot of the other kids? Are they in the pre-travel program and standing out there? If so, there's a good chance they will end up on the first or second team. Was your kid more inconsistent at tryouts? Are they on the smaller side without really good skllls to compensate? Not doing the pre-travel program and thus unknown to the coaches? I know nothing about soccer, but I was still able to guess where my son would end up just by observing those things.


Adjusting a handful of kids up or down just one level when you have 5-6 teams is not "fluid rosters"
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 12:14     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:q re: 2016 age groups--is it true that we will not receive an offer for an actual team or specific coach but they won't place kids on teams until after the summer? How can we weigh that against other offers? Its all so vague


Yes this is true to a certain extent. They probably already know who are some of the top team players are and who are their bottom players and are just going to try and fill the rest of the roster spots in the first couple months. Valor will tell
you in the beginning that the roster is fluid. IT IS NOT.

Once you are on a team your kid will mostly likely stay there unless a kid leaves or when they move up in team size but besides those two occasions we have only witnessed one player move up a team and it wasn't even during the season but once the season was over and the move was from 3rd to 2nd team.


Just remember all they want is your money. That is their priority, not developing skilled players.


I can tell you that for the younger boys age groups there is more movement than what you have described. We have seen at least 7 or 8 boys get moved up or down a level, including midseason. We were always given the impression that rosters were not totally fluid, but that movement was possible if was best for the kid and team.

This is where parents need to do an honest assessment of how their kid compares to others. Were they crushing it at tryouts? Are they bigger/faster/stronger than a lot of the other kids? Are they in the pre-travel program and standing out there? If so, there's a good chance they will end up on the first or second team. Was your kid more inconsistent at tryouts? Are they on the smaller side without really good skllls to compensate? Not doing the pre-travel program and thus unknown to the coaches? I know nothing about soccer, but I was still able to guess where my son would end up just by observing those things.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 11:53     Subject: Valor
The coach is THE MOST important aspect. Why would you pay $3000 without information on who the coach will be?
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 10:52     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:q re: 2016 age groups--is it true that we will not receive an offer for an actual team or specific coach but they won't place kids on teams until after the summer? How can we weigh that against other offers? Its all so vague


Yes this is true to a certain extent. They probably already know who are some of the top team players are and who are their bottom players and are just going to try and fill the rest of the roster spots in the first couple months. Valor will tell
you in the beginning that the roster is fluid. IT IS NOT.

Once you are on a team your kid will mostly likely stay there unless a kid leaves or when they move up in team size but besides those two occasions we have only witnessed one player move up a team and it wasn't even during the season but once the season was over and the move was from 3rd to 2nd team.


Just remember all they want is your money. That is their priority, not developing skilled players.


This. NEVER Believe a club that states shared rostering in an age group is going to happen at any level of play. They just want your money but know your kid might go else where when they put them on a lower team. You at best have one kid guest up once. Many clubs claim this in the DMV I've not seen more than one actually follow through with it in any meaningful way
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 10:47     Subject: Valor
Anonymous wrote:q re: 2016 age groups--is it true that we will not receive an offer for an actual team or specific coach but they won't place kids on teams until after the summer? How can we weigh that against other offers? Its all so vague


Yes this is true to a certain extent. They probably already know who are some of the top team players are and who are their bottom players and are just going to try and fill the rest of the roster spots in the first couple months. Valor will tell
you in the beginning that the roster is fluid. IT IS NOT.

Once you are on a team your kid will mostly likely stay there unless a kid leaves or when they move up in team size but besides those two occasions we have only witnessed one player move up a team and it wasn't even during the season but once the season was over and the move was from 3rd to 2nd team.


Just remember all they want is your money. That is their priority, not developing skilled players.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2024 09:42     Subject: Valor
q re: 2016 age groups--is it true that we will not receive an offer for an actual team or specific coach but they won't place kids on teams until after the summer? How can we weigh that against other offers? Its all so vague