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Post 06/17/2023 12:36     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think this judge will make it to the end of this trial? Aileen Cannon has only heard four trials in her life, none of them longer than 3 days.

How can she possibly handle a trial this big and complex, involving classified information?


It's sickening that someone so glaringly unqualified could end up a federal judge.


Okay, but she's made it through law school. Why would you assume she's an idiot?

Lots of idiots make it through law school. And the appeals court called her prior behavior in the case adjacent to this one “lawless.”


Captain Jack there, had his case overturned unanimously by the SC.
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Post 06/17/2023 12:36     Subject: Re:Lock him up indictment FL

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Anonymous wrote:Tulsi Gabbard on Trump's Indictment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVmQarG44QE


If she thinks it's fine for any public servant to walk out with hundreds upon hundreds of our country's most sensitive national security documents which are NOT Presidential records, which are documents that do not belong to him, but which belong to the government, and to conceal them, lie about them, to obstruct any investigation into them, to enlist others to lie about them - she is unfit to serve in government and is unfit to hold a military commission.


Presidential records? That has nothing to do with it.

U.S. Constitution - Article 2, Section 2.


Article 2 Section 2 has nothing to do with it either. NOWHERE in the Constitution does it confer any right for the President to take government assets

By your bizarre reading, Trump could have flown Air Force One to Florida and declared it to be his own personal property. He is not entitled to it, just as he is not entitled to take official agency documents, particularly some of the most sensitive ones in US government. The only things he was entitled to take were his own personal notes, his own personal correspondence and other personal items.


Wrong. As head of the executive branch, he had the authority to do exactly what he did.


Actually he was a fired employee. You aren’t allowed to take company property when you leave. Period.


I’ll just leave this right here as an example of the stupidity of leftists



Actually, you were just hoisted by your own petard.

Is an employee who is no longer employed allowed to keep corporate property?

No.

Former President Trump left office. He was not entitled to keep the property of the US public.

He was entitled to keep his own property.

The items in question were not his property.

This isn't hard.



Substitute Biden for Trump. Biden was never President. Was Biden entitled to keep that property?


No but he freely gave it back when it was discovered. The law says “willfully retains”. Where Trump screwed up was fighting the return of material, which is proof of his intent.


He kept it for years. That’s willfully retaining it. In addition, he out and out stole it as he had no legal right as a Senator to have those documents.


Members of Congress have clearance to see classified/hear classified briefings by virtue of their office. Need to know principles apply and they can't just waltz into the FBI or CIA and demand to read everything, but saying he had "no legal right as a Senator" is simply incorrect. Additionally, there are levels of classification and even administrative matters may be classified. Not everything marked SECRET is a national defense secret. It is incredibly unlikely that Biden had any documents anywhere near the level of classification that Trump had in his possession for one simple reason: the intelligence agencies rarely give out paper copies to members of Congress. The White House operates separately with its own level of control (or seemingly lack thereof).


They can’t take them home with them. So now we are admitting, yeah, Biden had them, but Trump is worse?


Np- have you read this entire thread? Have you read the indictment? There is only so much hand holding we can do for you. You’re gonna have to actually make a little effort.


Should Biden have had classified documents in his garage, yes or no
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2023 12:32     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives must all be brain-damaged. Nothing they say is based on facts or logic yet they sincerely believe that saying stupid shit over and over and over makes it true.


Speqking of brain damage... DCUM was all abuzzed when reports came out that Trump didn't pay for the meals at the Cuban restaurant





Wealthy billionaire picks up a restaurant check. Oh, such a very important issue to change public opinion about Trump entirely. Gosh we've been wrong about him all along. /s
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Post 06/17/2023 12:30     Subject: Re:Lock him up indictment FL

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Dumb. If there was a single interpretation for all laws, there wouldn't be a need for lawyers or judges at all.


Ha! and if the public must be allowed to see all secret documents so they can decide the matter for themselves, there is no need for a classification system. Lol. A country ruled by public opinion. Genius. By all means lets turn the country into a high school snap chat.

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Post 06/17/2023 12:07     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives must all be brain-damaged. Nothing they say is based on facts or logic yet they sincerely believe that saying stupid shit over and over and over makes it true.


Speqking of brain damage... DCUM was all abuzzed when reports came out that Trump didn't pay for the meals at the Cuban restaurant




The "media." I saw this repeated a couple of times on Twitter.
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Post 06/17/2023 11:55     Subject: Re:Lock him up indictment FL

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Anonymous wrote:Tulsi Gabbard on Trump's Indictment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVmQarG44QE


If she thinks it's fine for any public servant to walk out with hundreds upon hundreds of our country's most sensitive national security documents which are NOT Presidential records, which are documents that do not belong to him, but which belong to the government, and to conceal them, lie about them, to obstruct any investigation into them, to enlist others to lie about them - she is unfit to serve in government and is unfit to hold a military commission.


Presidential records? That has nothing to do with it.

U.S. Constitution - Article 2, Section 2.


Article 2 Section 2 has nothing to do with it either. NOWHERE in the Constitution does it confer any right for the President to take government assets

By your bizarre reading, Trump could have flown Air Force One to Florida and declared it to be his own personal property. He is not entitled to it, just as he is not entitled to take official agency documents, particularly some of the most sensitive ones in US government. The only things he was entitled to take were his own personal notes, his own personal correspondence and other personal items.


Wrong. As head of the executive branch, he had the authority to do exactly what he did.


Actually he was a fired employee. You aren’t allowed to take company property when you leave. Period.


I’ll just leave this right here as an example of the stupidity of leftists



Actually, you were just hoisted by your own petard.

Is an employee who is no longer employed allowed to keep corporate property?

No.

Former President Trump left office. He was not entitled to keep the property of the US public.

He was entitled to keep his own property.

The items in question were not his property.

This isn't hard.



Substitute Biden for Trump. Biden was never President. Was Biden entitled to keep that property?


No but he freely gave it back when it was discovered. The law says “willfully retains”. Where Trump screwed up was fighting the return of material, which is proof of his intent.


He kept it for years. That’s willfully retaining it. In addition, he out and out stole it as he had no legal right as a Senator to have those documents.


Members of Congress have clearance to see classified/hear classified briefings by virtue of their office. Need to know principles apply and they can't just waltz into the FBI or CIA and demand to read everything, but saying he had "no legal right as a Senator" is simply incorrect. Additionally, there are levels of classification and even administrative matters may be classified. Not everything marked SECRET is a national defense secret. It is incredibly unlikely that Biden had any documents anywhere near the level of classification that Trump had in his possession for one simple reason: the intelligence agencies rarely give out paper copies to members of Congress. The White House operates separately with its own level of control (or seemingly lack thereof).


They can’t take them home with them. So now we are admitting, yeah, Biden had them, but Trump is worse?


Inadvertent retention isn't a crime. Which is the ENTIRE point.
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Post 06/17/2023 11:38     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives must all be brain-damaged. Nothing they say is based on facts or logic yet they sincerely believe that saying stupid shit over and over and over makes it true.


Speqking of brain damage... DCUM was all abuzzed when reports came out that Trump didn't pay for the meals at the Cuban restaurant


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Post 06/17/2023 11:24     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Conservatives must all be brain-damaged. Nothing they say is based on facts or logic yet they sincerely believe that saying stupid shit over and over and over makes it true.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2023 11:00     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think this judge will make it to the end of this trial? Aileen Cannon has only heard four trials in her life, none of them longer than 3 days.

How can she possibly handle a trial this big and complex, involving classified information?


It's sickening that someone so glaringly unqualified could end up a federal judge.


Okay, but she's made it through law school. Why would you assume she's an idiot?

She probably took advantage of right wing affirmative action and lowered expectations.
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Post 06/17/2023 10:53     Subject: Re:Lock him up indictment FL

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This literally sets up the defense that Trump could shoot someone on 5th avenue and get away withit.
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Post 06/17/2023 10:48     Subject: Re:Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:This says it all



Dumb. If there was a single interpretation for all laws, there wouldn't be a need for lawyers or judges at all.
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Post 06/17/2023 10:43     Subject: Re:Lock him up indictment FL

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Please. If this crook is allowed to crap all over this country with no accountability, a lot more than 40 percent will want to stop paying taxes
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Post 06/17/2023 10:40     Subject: Re:Lock him up indictment FL

This says it all

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Post 06/17/2023 10:24     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:So the new target is Fitton. Why?


Target of what?
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Post 06/17/2023 09:36     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think this judge will make it to the end of this trial? Aileen Cannon has only heard four trials in her life, none of them longer than 3 days.

How can she possibly handle a trial this big and complex, involving classified information?


It's sickening that someone so glaringly unqualified could end up a federal judge.


Okay, but she's made it through law school. Why would you assume she's an idiot?

Lots of idiots make it through law school. And the appeals court called her prior behavior in the case adjacent to this one “lawless.”