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Anonymous wrote:If you look at his old YouTube videos from a few years ago, he appears like a sweet, polite child talking about his boat collection and playing basketball with a group of friends; in one he his conscientious of the cost of a souvenir at a bear attraction.His parents can use these as evidence that they had no idea of his decline into a dark world.

This is prime evidence of bullying.

And speaking of parents, why aren’t the parents of bully’s held criminally responsible? Maybe if we did that, bullying would stop increasing every year.

No, it's not prime evidence of bullying.

Anonymous wrote:Sheriff is on 760 WRJ talk radio right now questioning if school and its county ISD policies and protocols were followed. Clearly insinuating they were not followed.

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at his old YouTube videos from a few years ago, he appears like a sweet, polite child talking about his boat collection and playing basketball with a group of friends; in one he his conscientious of the cost of a souvenir at a bear attraction.His parents can use these as evidence that they had no idea of his decline into a dark world.

This is prime evidence of bullying.

And speaking of parents, why aren’t the parents of bully’s held criminally responsible? Maybe if we did that, bullying would stop increasing every year.

I think he was clearly bullied. Spare me that kids and faculty said he wasn't. I don't expect CYA faculty to admit it and clearly kids aren't going to admit it if they terrorized him to a breaking point. This is a gigantic school of nearly 2,000 students, so it's not as if everyone knows everyone. Meek poor kids like him fall through the cracks in these large buildings.

Facts don’t care about your feelings.

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at his old YouTube videos from a few years ago, he appears like a sweet, polite child talking about his boat collection and playing basketball with a group of friends; in one he his conscientious of the cost of a souvenir at a bear attraction.His parents can use these as evidence that they had no idea of his decline into a dark world.

This is prime evidence of bullying.

And speaking of parents, why aren’t the parents of bully’s held criminally responsible? Maybe if we did that, bullying would stop increasing every year.

I think he was clearly bullied. Spare me that kids and faculty said he wasn't. I don't expect CYA faculty to admit it and clearly kids aren't going to admit it if they terrorized him to a breaking point. This is a gigantic school of nearly 2,000 students, so it's not as if everyone knows everyone. Meek poor kids like him fall through the cracks in these large buildings.

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at his old YouTube videos from a few years ago, he appears like a sweet, polite child talking about his boat collection and playing basketball with a group of friends; in one he his conscientious of the cost of a souvenir at a bear attraction.His parents can use these as evidence that they had no idea of his decline into a dark world.

Even the day of, while they had him locked in an office (?) for 2 hours -- waiting for his parents to arrive from work? -- he asked if he could do his science homework because he was worried about missing class work!

Is it possible the line of questioning from school officials to he and his parents is maybe what triggered something in him?

This ridiculous fan fiction ignores the fact that he had the gun and ammunition on his person.

Fan fiction? It's on the record fact he was asking if he could do science homework while in the office Tuesday morning, because he was worried about missing class assignments:
https://www.mlive.com/news/2021/12/superintendent-asks-for-third-party-review-on-events-that-led-up-to-oxford-high-school-shooting.html

The science thing is odd and it either is evidence that he was a sociopath calmly pretending it was all fine or (more likely) a kid with a significant cognitive disconnect. My own kid was in a police car being taken to an ER for suicidal threats and was making plans about buying tickets for something they wanted to do. I was thinking WTF do they not realize if they kill themselves we will not be attending that. Their brains can just run on two totally different tracks.

Also, if the kid denied suicidal ideation and told the counselor it was just for a video game he was designing, I’m really not sure most counselors would have done anything differently for a kid that has not disciplinary history and seemed to be otherwise engaged in school and responding appropriately to questions. I might not be understanding the totality of what they had, though.

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at his old YouTube videos from a few years ago, he appears like a sweet, polite child talking about his boat collection and playing basketball with a group of friends; in one he his conscientious of the cost of a souvenir at a bear attraction.His parents can use these as evidence that they had no idea of his decline into a dark world.

This is prime evidence of bullying.

And speaking of parents, why aren’t the parents of bully’s held criminally responsible? Maybe if we did that, bullying would stop increasing every year.

I assume Oxford was remote his entire 9th grade year? Or at least most of it. Have to wonder if he lost his old friend group during remote learning transition to high school and/or was on radicalized by unfettered internet access at home all day while parents were at work?

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at his old YouTube videos from a few years ago, he appears like a sweet, polite child talking about his boat collection and playing basketball with a group of friends; in one he his conscientious of the cost of a souvenir at a bear attraction.His parents can use these as evidence that they had no idea of his decline into a dark world.

Even the day of, while they had him locked in an office (?) for 2 hours -- waiting for his parents to arrive from work? -- he asked if he could do his science homework because he was worried about missing class work!

Is it possible the line of questioning from school officials to he and his parents is maybe what triggered something in him?

This ridiculous fan fiction ignores the fact that he had the gun and ammunition on his person.

Fan fiction? It's on the record fact he was asking if he could do science homework while in the office Tuesday morning, because he was worried about missing class assignments:
https://www.mlive.com/news/2021/12/superintendent-asks-for-third-party-review-on-events-that-led-up-to-oxford-high-school-shooting.html

Sure, but the idea that he was pushed into shooting his classmates by having to wait for his parents is ludicrous, just on its face but also because he'd already brought the gun to school.

Not the wait, the line of questioning to him and to him and his parents. Was he present in the room when they talked to his parents? Since this school seemed to do nothing right, I’m guessing he was.

Again, the gun was already in his backpack at that point. Along with the ammunition. Just stop. You look ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:March 2021 would be the very end of his 9th grade year. I’m safely assuming August 2020 through December 2020 was remote, i.e. at least the first semester of his 9th grade.

AGAIN, STOP “SAFELY ASSUMING.” Oxford schools had the option of in-person learning starting in August 2020.
https://www.bridgemi.com/talent-education/michigan-school-reopening-tracker-find-out-if-your-district-starting-person-or?amp

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Anonymous wrote:Sheriff is on 760 WRJ talk radio right now questioning if school and its county ISD policies and protocols were followed. Clearly insinuating they were not followed.

not surprised

Is this the same sheriff who was trashing the prosecutor for charging the parents? Maybe he's figured out which way the wind is blowing for his re-election.

The sheriff is as RINO as they come, with a sterling career, so I’m not sure where this fake narrative is coming from that he’s some right wing wack job. The prosecutor went to two degree mills and just assumed office this year.

She was an ADA for five years, in private practice for nine more, and was an Oakland County Circuit Court Judge for seven years before leaving the bench to run for office.

Anonymous wrote:Is it a felony to give a semi-automatic weapon to a teenager? If so, they could get them on felony murder. Otherwise, I’m not optimistic they can get a conviction.
But it really should be a felony to give a semi-automatic weapon to a teenager. Kid wasn’t even old enough to drive a car, vote, buy booze or cigarettes, consent you sex with an adult….why would it be legal to give him a semi-automatic weapon?

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Anonymous wrote:Sheriff is on 760 WRJ talk radio right now questioning if school and its county ISD policies and protocols were followed. Clearly insinuating they were not followed.

not surprised

Is this the same sheriff who was trashing the prosecutor for charging the parents? Maybe he's figured out which way the wind is blowing for his re-election.

The sheriff is as RINO as they come, with a sterling career, so I’m not sure where this fake narrative is coming from that he’s some right wing wack job. The prosecutor went to two degree mills and just assumed office this year.

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Anonymous wrote:Sheriff is on 760 WRJ talk radio right now questioning if school and its county ISD policies and protocols were followed. Clearly insinuating they were not followed.

not surprised

Is this the same sheriff who was trashing the prosecutor for charging the parents? Maybe he's figured out which way the wind is blowing for his re-election.

The sheriff is as RINO as they come, with a sterling career, so I’m not sure where this fake narrative is coming from that he’s some right wing wack job. The prosecutor went to two degree mills and just assumed office this year.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sheriff is on 760 WRJ talk radio right now questioning if school and its county ISD policies and protocols were followed. Clearly insinuating they were not followed.

not surprised

Is this the same sheriff who was trashing the prosecutor for charging the parents? Maybe he's figured out which way the wind is blowing for his re-election.