Anonymous
11/02/2021 05:42
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Once again, Maureen Callahan of NY Post delivers --
https://nypost.com/2021/11/01/alec-and-hilaria-baldwins-sickening-act-for-sympathy/
"But no, the Rachel Dolezal of the Hamptons is back at it, asking for public sympathy with a soupçon of envy: Her husband may have accidentally killed a young wife and mother, but hey, covet their cozy autumnal New England lifestyle, won’t you?
Hutchins was buried on Friday. Her son, Andros, is only 9 years old. The UK Sun reported that the child was unable to speak for two days after his mother’s death. “Andros was incredibly close to his mother,” Halyna’s father told the Sun. “This tragedy has wrecked a beautiful, perfect family. Everyone who knows them is destroyed by sorrow.”
Can you imagine what kind of Halloween this little boy had? What agony the coming holidays will be for him and his father?
Yet the Baldwins, in all their malignant narcissism, would have us keep our eyes on their particular freak show, one rife with bad acting, ill-advised activity and Alec’s strange aura of imperviousness.
You get the sense that Baldwin’s pretty sure he won’t be criminally charged and that all this overacting — how many photos were taken of Alec this weekend with his head in his hands after he was caught shopping at Ralph Lauren, or going on a coffee run, or sitting at a bar in Vermont, in a restaurant he and Hilaria bought out, right in front of a large window so the paparazzi could get their unobstructed shots? — is just to stave off a civil lawsuit."
BINGO
https://nypost.com/2021/11/01/alec-and-hilaria-baldwins-sickening-act-for-sympathy/
"But no, the Rachel Dolezal of the Hamptons is back at it, asking for public sympathy with a soupçon of envy: Her husband may have accidentally killed a young wife and mother, but hey, covet their cozy autumnal New England lifestyle, won’t you?
Hutchins was buried on Friday. Her son, Andros, is only 9 years old. The UK Sun reported that the child was unable to speak for two days after his mother’s death. “Andros was incredibly close to his mother,” Halyna’s father told the Sun. “This tragedy has wrecked a beautiful, perfect family. Everyone who knows them is destroyed by sorrow.”
Can you imagine what kind of Halloween this little boy had? What agony the coming holidays will be for him and his father?
Yet the Baldwins, in all their malignant narcissism, would have us keep our eyes on their particular freak show, one rife with bad acting, ill-advised activity and Alec’s strange aura of imperviousness.
You get the sense that Baldwin’s pretty sure he won’t be criminally charged and that all this overacting — how many photos were taken of Alec this weekend with his head in his hands after he was caught shopping at Ralph Lauren, or going on a coffee run, or sitting at a bar in Vermont, in a restaurant he and Hilaria bought out, right in front of a large window so the paparazzi could get their unobstructed shots? — is just to stave off a civil lawsuit."
BINGO
Anonymous
11/01/2021 23:10
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
The Baldwins are creepy scumbags, the world would be much better off if they moved to a remote area of the planet and were never seen or heard from again.
Anonymous
11/01/2021 21:26
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:The AD that handed Alec the gun is now speaking publicly. I find it interesting that he told police (as did other witnesses) that he never said "Cold gun" when he handed it to Alec.
I've also been a little bothered by the fact that the AD talks about how he should have checked better. But Alec never said he should have checked. He just retweeted articles slamming the AD.
The AD has remorse and wishes he did things differently. Alec doesn't say anything about having remorse that he didn't check. And by most accounts, actors are typically shown the inside of the chamber, so it would be reasonable to expect he might have asked, or regretted not asking.
I was involved in a situation where someone was seriously hurt at work. In my case, I predicted it, stated my prediction clearly up the management chain and to all involved, and tried to get them to change their minds about doing it. Even with all that, I still have regrets about how I could have been more persuasive in my approach to get people not to do what ultimately left someone brain dead. I think about everything like, what did I do in the preceeding year that made me less credible when I was trying to get them to reconsider this doomed event? I think most people, when faced with this kind of thing, tend to he self critical rather than point fingers. It is very strange to me that Alec has not said a single thing about his own role in this tragedy.
It doesn't sound like your situation at work was similar, where someone else's mistake led to you injuring or killing another person. That's what happened to AB. He may feel guilt and regret. He likely feels anger. What he has expressed is sorrow, which is always a permissible emotion.
Anonymous
11/01/2021 21:09
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
The AD that handed Alec the gun is now speaking publicly. I find it interesting that he told police (as did other witnesses) that he never said "Cold gun" when he handed it to Alec.
I've also been a little bothered by the fact that the AD talks about how he should have checked better. But Alec never said he should have checked. He just retweeted articles slamming the AD.
The AD has remorse and wishes he did things differently. Alec doesn't say anything about having remorse that he didn't check. And by most accounts, actors are typically shown the inside of the chamber, so it would be reasonable to expect he might have asked, or regretted not asking.
I was involved in a situation where someone was seriously hurt at work. In my case, I predicted it, stated my prediction clearly up the management chain and to all involved, and tried to get them to change their minds about doing it. Even with all that, I still have regrets about how I could have been more persuasive in my approach to get people not to do what ultimately left someone brain dead. I think about everything like, what did I do in the preceeding year that made me less credible when I was trying to get them to reconsider this doomed event? I think most people, when faced with this kind of thing, tend to he self critical rather than point fingers. It is very strange to me that Alec has not said a single thing about his own role in this tragedy.
I've also been a little bothered by the fact that the AD talks about how he should have checked better. But Alec never said he should have checked. He just retweeted articles slamming the AD.
The AD has remorse and wishes he did things differently. Alec doesn't say anything about having remorse that he didn't check. And by most accounts, actors are typically shown the inside of the chamber, so it would be reasonable to expect he might have asked, or regretted not asking.
I was involved in a situation where someone was seriously hurt at work. In my case, I predicted it, stated my prediction clearly up the management chain and to all involved, and tried to get them to change their minds about doing it. Even with all that, I still have regrets about how I could have been more persuasive in my approach to get people not to do what ultimately left someone brain dead. I think about everything like, what did I do in the preceeding year that made me less credible when I was trying to get them to reconsider this doomed event? I think most people, when faced with this kind of thing, tend to he self critical rather than point fingers. It is very strange to me that Alec has not said a single thing about his own role in this tragedy.
Anonymous
11/01/2021 20:23
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s gross that she’s making this about her own family’s mourning and ptsd when a little boy lost his mother. She dressed her kids and took her sympathy photo shoot while another family is missing a mother’s hugs. She’s really deplorable. How must Halyna’s husband feel about these narcissists?
It’s really horrible to post those Halloween pics. They have no shame at all. It’s embarrassing.
Yes life goes on, and the kids need to have a great Halloween, but there is no need to post much with everything going on.
Agreed. Like of course they can get dressed up, but you don’t need to post it, ffs.
+1
They could have had a fun Halloween at home, and just done some little games in the house. The kids are little - they wouldn't have cared. I find all of this just so unbelievable. Who would be so clueless and callous?
Anonymous
11/01/2021 20:22
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Before the tragedy, Hilaria was posting on Instragram many, many times a day. Almost always pictures of herself "breastfeeding," posing in their apartment hallway, weird photoshopped closeups of her boobs, etc. Just a constant stream of histrionic "look at me! I am extremely desirable!" I don't think that it is an exaggeration to say that that was her life.
Now... she can't do that. I am sure that she is milking their "dramatic" situation behind the scenes by texting with "important" people and making herself the central character in what has occured. But I think that it is not a sufficient substitute for what she is missing. I expect her to ramp up the posting. I wonder, now that Alex is in a much larger spotlight, for a terrible reason, whether her mentally ill posts will lead to a breaking point for them.
I wonder too. It was clear in that impromptu "press conference" on the road that Alec was sick to death of her speaking for him, interrupting, and being a total attention hog. I wonder just how long they're going to last. I also wonder how on earth Alec didn't realize long ago how incredibly shallow and narcissistic she is. Maybe he is too...
Anonymous
11/01/2021 20:18
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:It’s gross that she’s making this about her own family’s mourning and ptsd when a little boy lost his mother. She dressed her kids and took her sympathy photo shoot while another family is missing a mother’s hugs. She’s really deplorable. How must Halyna’s husband feel about these narcissists?
Exactly. Six kids enjoying Halloween and BOTH of their parents, while Halyna's husband buries his wife and tries to comfort his son. And there's Hilaria, in her sexy spider dress, showing off those toned arms... the whole thing is so incredibly tone deaf. Amazed at the sycophants commenting such nice things on her IG. Barf.
Anonymous
11/01/2021 20:14
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a conservative so every reason to not like him but I do feel bad about this whole mess. I disagree about this being feigned sadness. He looks horrible and stressed. He clearly gets that he killed someone. I also think they are crazy in love. She is very protective of him and he with her. This is all so sad. I imagine he is a mess.
I didn't get crazy in love from that interview. He spoke to her like a very annoyed parent speaks to their kid. They seemed to have different goals in that interview too- they were not a couple who was in step together. She wanted to yell at them and he wanted to engage with them.
NP. I watched the video with my husband. He thought AB was snapping at a paparazzo. It didn't sound like how you talk to a spouse. And he kept talking to her like that. It must be a very tense household, even before the shooting death. And HB comes across as shrill and angry. Being married to her makes him look less sympathetic.
I feel really bad for those six kids. I am not concern trolling. I think they are likely taking the brunt of their parents' stress.
Why did he talk to the press in an impromptu conference on the side of the road? It makes him seem more out of control, and everything he says can be used against him (I can't believe he started talking about the slim chance of on set accidents - that means he has some idea of the risk and maybe minimized them, it opens him to more questions, etc.). His lawyers must be flipping out.
+1
He needs to just shut up. The paps wouldn't be able to hound them if they'd just stay at home for awhile. I think they both crave the attention.
Anonymous
11/01/2021 20:12
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Wait!!!! We missed the Baldwins Sunday morning coffee run photos! And of course, no outing would be complete without Alec’s requisite photo of him looking distraught with his hands rubbing his face.
https://pagesix.com/2021/10/31/alec-baldwin-wife-hilaria-upset-during-coffee-run-in-vermont/?_ga=2.181748775.162457341.1635757366-699450175.1632736333
“I brought [Alec] up here because we have to mourn Halyna’s death,” she said. “Alec had a really traumatic thing happen, and I am trying to limit the PTSD.”
“He needs space for me to take care of him and his mental health,” she said. “It’s an awful thing that happened. Alec feels awful.”
Hilaria seems only too eager to insert herself into this mess. Free publicity plus she can paint herself as this loving mama bear/wife. What they need to do is stay behind closed doors for a good long while. And the sharing pictures of Halloween costumes - on the same day as Halnya's funeral??!? SUCH poor taste.
Anonymous
11/01/2021 19:07
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Here it is. “Rust” prop person shot herself in foot on the set due to a live round being in the gun.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/entertainment/rust-prop-shot-foot-accidental-discharge-alec-baldwin-shooting.amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/entertainment/rust-prop-shot-foot-accidental-discharge-alec-baldwin-shooting.amp
Anonymous
11/01/2021 19:01
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a conservative so every reason to not like him but I do feel bad about this whole mess. I disagree about this being feigned sadness. He looks horrible and stressed. He clearly gets that he killed someone. I also think they are crazy in love. She is very protective of him and he with her. This is all so sad. I imagine he is a mess.
I didn't get crazy in love from that interview. He spoke to her like a very annoyed parent speaks to their kid. They seemed to have different goals in that interview too- they were not a couple who was in step together. She wanted to yell at them and he wanted to engage with them.
NP. I watched the video with my husband. He thought AB was snapping at a paparazzo. It didn't sound like how you talk to a spouse. And he kept talking to her like that. It must be a very tense household, even before the shooting death. And HB comes across as shrill and angry. Being married to her makes him look less sympathetic.
I feel really bad for those six kids. I am not concern trolling. I think they are likely taking the brunt of their parents' stress.
Why did he talk to the press in an impromptu conference on the side of the road? It makes him seem more out of control, and everything he says can be used against him (I can't believe he started talking about the slim chance of on set accidents - that means he has some idea of the risk and maybe minimized them, it opens him to more questions, etc.). His lawyers must be flipping out.
I agree about the flipping out lawyer, especially since there were other dangerous situations on the set.
Anonymous
11/01/2021 18:24
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did he shot another actor or a cinematographer who is a support person?
It sounded like the latter. If so, why was he aiming the gun at her? Was there some joking around that was going on?
No, he wasn't joking around with the gun.
He does have a history of narcissistic recklessness.
This has all been hashed out over the past week. He was working, doing his job.
Someone else wasn't.
Wasn't it his production company? He didn't just have a vanity producer credit. So he might be liable for criminal negligence. He had crewmembers walk off set the week before due to unsafe working conditions. He will end up in civil court and will be sued. So he was ultimately responsible and he wasn't doing his job.
Nope. It's a lot more complicated than you're saying and no, the actual producers or the hiring company do not have criminal liability.
So you’re saying that producers typically don’t bear any responsibility for crimes that occur on their productions? Especially due to negligence?
Civil, yes; criminal, usually not.
Here’s an example of one of the very rare cases in which an employer was found criminally liable for a safety violation in the workplace:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdwv/pr/blankenship-sentenced-year-federal-prison
It’s not going to happen here but there is some chance that an ondividual will be criminally charged if they can identify who put a live round in a prop gun.
Anonymous
11/01/2021 18:10
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s gross that she’s making this about her own family’s mourning and ptsd when a little boy lost his mother. She dressed her kids and took her sympathy photo shoot while another family is missing a mother’s hugs. She’s really deplorable. How must Halyna’s husband feel about these narcissists?
It’s really horrible to post those Halloween pics. They have no shame at all. It’s embarrassing.
Yes life goes on, and the kids need to have a great Halloween, but there is no need to post much with everything going on.
It wasn’t the pics but her comment that they tried to give the kids a normal holiday or something to that effect. I mean, that’s over the top. Are we supposed to feel sorry for her kids who have both parents?
No the pics were too much too. Just lie low for awhile it’s not that hard.
Anonymous
11/01/2021 17:12
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s gross that she’s making this about her own family’s mourning and ptsd when a little boy lost his mother. She dressed her kids and took her sympathy photo shoot while another family is missing a mother’s hugs. She’s really deplorable. How must Halyna’s husband feel about these narcissists?
It’s really horrible to post those Halloween pics. They have no shame at all. It’s embarrassing.
Yes life goes on, and the kids need to have a great Halloween, but there is no need to post much with everything going on.
It wasn’t the pics but her comment that they tried to give the kids a normal holiday or something to that effect. I mean, that’s over the top. Are we supposed to feel sorry for her kids who have both parents?
Anonymous
11/01/2021 16:43
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
I think they knew people were sympathetic toward Alec, and overplayed their hand for more PR.