Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 16:22     Subject: Re:Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

Anonymous wrote:Here's the "tennis player" from Georgetown, majoring in Spanish, who "thoroughly enjoys serving as a leader for her community" and will be an Wealth Management Intern in New York next year.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6802623/Georgetown-student-allegedly-gloated-cheating-SATs.html

I used to snicker at the absurdity of this story but now am thoroughly disgusted. Hope her ass is booted out of there quick.


"wealth management" is where they send the pretty faces that are dumb.

S&T and IB require a bit more iq.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 16:12     Subject: Re:Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

Anonymous wrote:Here's the "tennis player" from Georgetown, majoring in Spanish, who "thoroughly enjoys serving as a leader for her community" and will be an Wealth Management Intern in New York next year.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6802623/Georgetown-student-allegedly-gloated-cheating-SATs.html

I used to snicker at the absurdity of this story but now am thoroughly disgusted. Hope her ass is booted out of there quick.


Wealth Management ... she will fit right in.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 16:10     Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

I don’t see how her “brand” would have been hurt had she attended Pepperdine or SMU or Arizona State.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 16:08     Subject: Re:Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

Here's the "tennis player" from Georgetown, majoring in Spanish, who "thoroughly enjoys serving as a leader for her community" and will be an Wealth Management Intern in New York next year.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6802623/Georgetown-student-allegedly-gloated-cheating-SATs.html

I used to snicker at the absurdity of this story but now am thoroughly disgusted. Hope her ass is booted out of there quick.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 16:03     Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Anonymous wrote:USC administrators are probably high-fiving each other to be discussed in the same national conversation with Yale and Stanford.


I totally get USC and UCLA are very competitive [now] but this level of fraud for THOSE places seems like an SNL skit. These parents are batshit crazy.

Funny you should say that. There'll definitely be a long SNL skit based on this scandal with so many parts for different actors/actresses.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 16:00     Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Anonymous wrote:Lori Laughlin and spouse were particularly stupid considering their daughter already had a likely million dollar a year business as a social influencer. They would have been better off making her see a financial adviser and getting her investing like crazy so when she loses her looks or people stop caring about her, her money is earning money and she can live off investments.


Agree.

In this case, however, she leveraged a new contract related to being a college student influence, hawking dorm gear and so forth. Had she not been in college she would have had to limit herself to makeup, clubs and god knows what else.

Also, Mom said she never had a chance to go to college, and wanted her daughters to have that experience. Perhaps they can experience prison together.


I'm at a total loss as to why her family valued USC or UCLA so much over places like SMU, ASU, Arizona or SEC and lower ranked Big 10 universities she likely could have gotten into as a full-pay dumb rich kid from California? I understand USC and UCLA are more competitive than ever but for a ditz, why were they so obsessed? Doesn't make sense at all. Are there people who think USC is really, really prestigious?


Because part of her brand is showing up at LA parties with the likes of the younger Kardashians, pop stars. You can't do that from a Big 10 school and maintain your influencer gig. Going to college was part of her brand. She was going to get an education and start a career. She's had a lucrative profession for several years.

NYU or Columbia could probably have worked too, but the weather is bad and the party scene is different.

This was like the new season of her ongoing reality show, being shot in a new location. Not like college for us or for our kids.


There's so many other lower tier colleges in the LA and OC areas that would have taken her for her money and fame alone: Whittier College, Chapman Univ, Pepperdine Univ, Santa Monica College, Concordia Univ, Soka Univ., Marymount, Cal State Long Beach, etc. Hell, even UC Irvine has a nearly 40% acceptance rate.



USC is a 20 minute ride from Loughlin's house. Not kidding.

The girl has her own set-up there to run her Youtube business. So I'm betting since mom forced her to go to college the deal was she could live at home which has 12,000 square feet (not many teens want that but if you saw Olivia Jade's dorm room you'd understand why) and continue to do what she wanted while mom and dad picked up any bills necessary to keep her going and traveling for her influencer gigs.

Bedroom and Home Office



Dorm Room


UCLA is in their BACKYARD btw but the girl was as dumb as a box of rocks - no way she could swing it.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 15:59     Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

Anonymous wrote:LA person here- Dying that people actually bribed themselves into Loyola!! A high school!!! That’s not even one of the hard ones to get into, I mean how dumb is your kid?!


is loyola part of it? they were a target of parents giving bribes? it has a 50+ acceptance rate!

i don't have a much bad things to say about loyola - I know a lot of sweet girls that went there. But they were out of state from the PACNW. Rich, private school girls with dads in tech.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 15:58     Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:USC administrators are probably high-fiving each other to be discussed in the same national conversation with Yale and Stanford.


I totally get USC and UCLA are very competitive [now] but this level of fraud for THOSE places seems like an SNL skit. These parents are batshit crazy.


are tehre people getting into ivies, jhu, duke, northwestern but getting dinged at USC?

I get that USC is a lot more competitive than 10-15 years ago but are the students really stronger or is just a bigger applicant pool that is drivign down acceptance rates?

Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 15:57     Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

LA person here- Dying that people actually bribed themselves into Loyola!! A high school!!! That’s not even one of the hard ones to get into, I mean how dumb is your kid?!
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 15:55     Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Anonymous wrote:Lori Laughlin and spouse were particularly stupid considering their daughter already had a likely million dollar a year business as a social influencer. They would have been better off making her see a financial adviser and getting her investing like crazy so when she loses her looks or people stop caring about her, her money is earning money and she can live off investments.


Agree.

In this case, however, she leveraged a new contract related to being a college student influence, hawking dorm gear and so forth. Had she not been in college she would have had to limit herself to makeup, clubs and god knows what else.

Also, Mom said she never had a chance to go to college, and wanted her daughters to have that experience. Perhaps they can experience prison together.


I'm at a total loss as to why her family valued USC or UCLA so much over places like SMU, ASU, Arizona or SEC and lower ranked Big 10 universities she likely could have gotten into as a full-pay dumb rich kid from California? I understand USC and UCLA are more competitive than ever but for a ditz, why were they so obsessed? Doesn't make sense at all. Are there people who think USC is really, really prestigious?


Because part of her brand is showing up at LA parties with the likes of the younger Kardashians, pop stars. You can't do that from a Big 10 school and maintain your influencer gig. Going to college was part of her brand. She was going to get an education and start a career. She's had a lucrative profession for several years.

NYU or Columbia could probably have worked too, but the weather is bad and the party scene is different.

This was like the new season of her ongoing reality show, being shot in a new location. Not like college for us or for our kids.


There's so many other lower tier colleges in the LA and OC areas that would have taken her for her money and fame alone: Whittier College, Chapman Univ, Pepperdine Univ, Santa Monica College, Concordia Univ, Soka Univ., Marymount, Cal State Long Beach, etc. Hell, even UC Irvine has a nearly 40% acceptance rate.


All these schools have so many hot girls. It is night and day compared to the northeast.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 15:55     Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

Anonymous wrote:USC administrators are probably high-fiving each other to be discussed in the same national conversation with Yale and Stanford.


I totally get USC and UCLA are very competitive [now] but this level of fraud for THOSE places seems like an SNL skit. These parents are batshit crazy.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 15:53     Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lori Laughlin and spouse were particularly stupid considering their daughter already had a likely million dollar a year business as a social influencer. They would have been better off making her see a financial adviser and getting her investing like crazy so when she loses her looks or people stop caring about her, her money is earning money and she can live off investments.


Agree.

In this case, however, she leveraged a new contract related to being a college student influence, hawking dorm gear and so forth. Had she not been in college she would have had to limit herself to makeup, clubs and god knows what else.

Also, Mom said she never had a chance to go to college, and wanted her daughters to have that experience. Perhaps they can experience prison together.


I'm at a total loss as to why her family valued USC or UCLA so much over places like SMU, ASU, Arizona or SEC and lower ranked Big 10 universities she likely could have gotten into as a full-pay dumb rich kid from California? I understand USC and UCLA are more competitive than ever but for a ditz, why were they so obsessed? Doesn't make sense at all. Are there people who think USC is really, really prestigious?


Because part of her brand is showing up at LA parties with the likes of the younger Kardashians, pop stars. You can't do that from a Big 10 school and maintain your influencer gig. Going to college was part of her brand. She was going to get an education and start a career. She's had a lucrative profession for several years.

NYU or Columbia could probably have worked too, but the weather is bad and the party scene is different.

This was like the new season of her ongoing reality show, being shot in a new location. Not like college for us or for our kids.


That makes sense, I guess. But aren’t ASU and U of Arizona only a 30min flight away from LA? The obsession with USC and UCLA is really fascinating.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 15:49     Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lori Laughlin and spouse were particularly stupid considering their daughter already had a likely million dollar a year business as a social influencer. They would have been better off making her see a financial adviser and getting her investing like crazy so when she loses her looks or people stop caring about her, her money is earning money and she can live off investments.


Agree.

In this case, however, she leveraged a new contract related to being a college student influence, hawking dorm gear and so forth. Had she not been in college she would have had to limit herself to makeup, clubs and god knows what else.

Also, Mom said she never had a chance to go to college, and wanted her daughters to have that experience. Perhaps they can experience prison together.


I'm at a total loss as to why her family valued USC or UCLA so much over places like SMU, ASU, Arizona or SEC and lower ranked Big 10 universities she likely could have gotten into as a full-pay dumb rich kid from California? I understand USC and UCLA are more competitive than ever but for a ditz, why were they so obsessed? Doesn't make sense at all. Are there people who think USC is really, really prestigious?


Because part of her brand is showing up at LA parties with the likes of the younger Kardashians, pop stars. You can't do that from a Big 10 school and maintain your influencer gig. Going to college was part of her brand. She was going to get an education and start a career. She's had a lucrative profession for several years.

NYU or Columbia could probably have worked too, but the weather is bad and the party scene is different.

This was like the new season of her ongoing reality show, being shot in a new location. Not like college for us or for our kids.


There's so many other lower tier colleges in the LA and OC areas that would have taken her for her money and fame alone: Whittier College, Chapman Univ, Pepperdine Univ, Santa Monica College, Concordia Univ, Soka Univ., Marymount, Cal State Long Beach, etc. Hell, even UC Irvine has a nearly 40% acceptance rate.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 15:47     Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

USC administrators are probably high-fiving each other to be discussed in the same national conversation with Yale and Stanford.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2019 15:46     Subject: Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Where does William H Macy fit into all of this? They’re still married, right?


They're still married. They haven't charged him--yet. The guy claims he met with him as well as huffman but my guess is so far the trail of money, emails, etc. goes back only to her and her accounts--would make sense they keep all their stuff separate for legal and other reasons since they are both high-earning and high-profile.


Or, so far they only have actual evidence (the transcripted phone conversations) of his involvement with the second daughter, who ultimately was not a student benefitting from the scheme. The parents changed their mind on her at the 11th hour.


They have Felicity Huffman on recorded phone conversations where the fraud is admitted. They don't have Macy on a recorded call.

The complaint explains how they nailed all the parents. Once Singer was caught and was cooperating, the FBI had him call each person to say he was giving them a heads up that his foundation was being audited, and if there were questions about the parents' contributions, he was not going to say that it was for [getting the proctor to take/correct their daughter's ACT/SAT; or bribing the coach and faking athletic accomplishments; or whatever that specific fraud was] to get the parent on tape agreeing and not disputing that fraud was the reason for the contribution to the foundation. He also would tell them that, by the way, the coach was impressed with the fake athlete profile you created and said they may use that format themselves, also so that the parent would be on tape acknowledging or at least not disputing the fraud.


Incorrect. They DO have Macy on recorded calls.
He is referred to as "spouse" and makes comments.
But Macy is discussing the second daughter who ultimately did not use the scheme.


166. On or about December 12, 2018, HUFFMAN and her spouse spoke with CW-1
again to finalize plans for their younger daughter’s exam. During the call, CW-1 confirmed that
the price to participate in the cheating scheme would be $15,000, and discussed with HUFFMAN
and her spouse whether they thought their daughter would actually take the exam over two days,
in order to achieve as high a score as possible before CW-2 corrected her answers. Excerpts
from the call, which was consensually recorded, are set forth below.
CW-1 Yeah. So I guess the question for both of you guys are-- is, are we going
to do this similarly that we did with [your older daughter] where the
[younger daughter] will take thetest at [the West Hollywood Test Center]
--
SPOUSE Yeah, I think [inaudible].
CW-1 I’m sorry.
SPOUSE Yes, I think we are [inaudible].
CW-1 Okay. Same exact. Same exact so she’ll take the test [at the West
Hollywood Test Center]. [CW-2] will be the proctor. We will ensure that
sh-- we get a score that will be inthe 14s or-- or, or higher because we
want toachieve the schools we want to get to, correct?
SPOUSE --we’re talking about Georgetown, places like--
CW-1 Yeah. So we’ll need to b-- we’ll need to be mid 14s to 1500 to be-- to be
solid. That’s out of 1600. So that means that sh-- she’ll score in the 700s in each category.
….
CW-1 Okay, and then, so then are we-- so againthe last time we did this. Just so I
can make sure the financial part is all squared away that then we’ll-- we
will send you an invoice for $15,000 and we’ll-- and that’ll be all taken
care of. Are we all okay with the financial side and the actual operational side of it?
SPOUSE --cool.
CW-1 Okay. That’s what I wanted-- that’s what I wantedto know, Okay, so
what I’ll do is we will start the paperwork of getting everything
accomplished in February sothat the test can be sent to [the West
Hollywood Test Center]. And, and then Felicity, my guess is you’ll have
[a] conversation, the school, may have [a] conversation with you and
you’ll just say, “You know, essentially what we’re going to do is [my
older daughter] took the-- the exam here,we don’t want to miss any
school, we’re going to take it over the weekend, and we’re-- we’re very
comfortable with this process because we’ve already doneit once before
and it worked out really well.”
SPOUSE: That’s [inaudible].
HUFFMAN: Okay.
….
SPOUSE Do we want two days?
HUFFMAN Better for her to take it over two days? I think it is.
CW-1 Well, at this point, Felicity, it doesn’treally matter because we’re going to get a s-- a score --
SPOUSE --I -- I understand that.
CW-1 But it’s up to you how you want to do this in--in her head.
SPOUSE She’ll score higher. Just her base score will be higher if we did it over two days.


Macy's lucky. That call that they're talking about happened in December 2018 (yes, three months ago). The second daughter is a sophomore in high school, they would have come back with another $10,000 in August 2019 in her junior year. But the feds are indicting now.