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Anonymous wrote:Brianna, Luis isn't supposed to help you with the shower because you aren't supposed to throw your own shower...

Exactly! I was thinking the same thing!

And not only that, WTF is Bri's mom talking about, "Luis isn't helping financially." The baby isn't even here yet! Brianna isn't moving in with him and he's not moving in with her, so won't he have gear to buy for the baby for his own apartment? That family made their bed. They push all the men away and then wonder where they went!

1. When there's an event at your kid's school that parents are invited to, the parents Are told about it. When her kid got in the car and talked about the Dr. Seuss celebration and how all but a few parents were there, briana was acting like she didnt even know parents could go. No way.

2. They rented a house for the shower? Spray painting? Bottles? Flowers? You're talking probably $1000 or more for 2 days for the baby shower. Is she insane? It's nice enough in Florida for her kid to be at a pool outside. If her house was too small for the shower, they could have rented a public park for maybe $75 for the shower.

3. They use the worst language in front of her daughter.

4. If money is so tight, why isn't she getting used things for the baby?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh Kail...do you even hear yourself? Your child support arguments are the same Joe said to you. Bottom line, you out earn Javi by several multiples. Yes, you may owe him child support for general living expenses.

Well, she certainly outearns Javi by a lot. I'm not sure why she was surprised that he asked for child support.

Because she is selfish.

Anonymous wrote:Oh Kail...do you even hear yourself? Your child support arguments are the same Joe said to you. Bottom line, you out earn Javi by several multiples. Yes, you may owe him child support for general living expenses.

Well, she certainly outearns Javi by a lot. I'm not sure why she was surprised that he asked for child support.

Anonymous wrote:Javi is such a good dad. Those boys are lucky to have him in their life. I'm glad Kail got over herself and dropped the PFA.

Sorry, I wouldn't call Javi, "such a good dad." He got in a relationship that he posted online about right after a breakup. He allows his new son to be on a reality tv show. On the flip side, he seems like a caring person HOWEVER I think he has significantly dropped things with his step son since the separation/divorce though I do think he loves him. I think he is stable, has a stable job, and is fairly mature on many things. He still has a major jealous streak that is unhealthy and dangerous (remember how he treated Kail during their marriage?) So no...he is not 100% healthy himself...but he is more mature than most on that show.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think Jace really doesn't enjoy being with his mom and that posse, or do you think he just feels he needs to tell that to his grandma?

It's really hard to tell. He either genuinely does not enjoy it, or he does and won't allow himself to.

It's not even hard to tell. Jace hates being with Janelle. That poor kid is so messed up. It makes me sad to think about the amount of therapy he'll need...

Honestly, he'd be better if Janelle was completely out of his life. All these men, half-siblings, faux-siblings... it's ridiculous.

The way they are already talking about Jace it sounds like he's on the road to becoming a sociopath. If they don't get him SERIOUS help and a calm and consistent lifestyle, when puberty hits he is going to explode.

I think it's already a done deal. We all know Barb can't handle a teenager. What can you do. The cycle continues.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you all think Jace really doesn't enjoy being with his mom and that posse, or do you think he just feels he needs to tell that to his grandma?

It's really hard to tell. He either genuinely does not enjoy it, or he does and won't allow himself to.

It's not even hard to tell. Jace hates being with Janelle. That poor kid is so messed up. It makes me sad to think about the amount of therapy he'll need...

Honestly, he'd be better if Janelle was completely out of his life. All these men, half-siblings, faux-siblings... it's ridiculous.

The way they are already talking about Jace it sounds like he's on the road to becoming a sociopath. If they don't get him SERIOUS help and a calm and consistent lifestyle, when puberty hits he is going to explode.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brianna, Luis isn't supposed to help you with the shower because you aren't supposed to throw your own shower...

Exactly! I was thinking the same thing!

And not only that, WTF is Bri's mom talking about, "Luis isn't helping financially." The baby isn't even here yet! Brianna isn't moving in with him and he's not moving in with her, so won't he have gear to buy for the baby for his own apartment? That family made their bed. They push all the men away and then wonder where they went!

They most definitely do...

On a side note, how is it possible that in FL a mother can give up a baby without the fathers consent if he doesn't provide her financial and emotional support during the pregnancy? Child support isn't generally ordered until the baby arrives and even then a court can't strip a parent of their rights because of failure to pay. And if providing emotional support is a requirement to preventing adoption, there would be a lot of babies being adopted based on the threads in the Relationship Forum.

I don't know what they expect financially NOW. A crib? A stroller? Car seat? These are all things HE will need to purchase for his own use too, so why should he have to pay for hers now. And technically speaking, in what world is she owed money for a fetus? Not to be morbid, but baby could be stillborn. The baby isn't HERE. It doesn't exist outside of Bri's medical bills. And as far as that goes, how does he know it's his kid to even pay for those? This is all technically speaking.

They are all playing games and the only one to suffer is that baby and her older sister.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brianna, Luis isn't supposed to help you with the shower because you aren't supposed to throw your own shower...

Exactly! I was thinking the same thing!

And not only that, WTF is Bri's mom talking about, "Luis isn't helping financially." The baby isn't even here yet! Brianna isn't moving in with him and he's not moving in with her, so won't he have gear to buy for the baby for his own apartment? That family made their bed. They push all the men away and then wonder where they went!

They most definitely do...

On a side note, how is it possible that in FL a mother can give up a baby without the fathers consent if he doesn't provide her financial and emotional support during the pregnancy? Child support isn't generally ordered until the baby arrives and even then a court can't strip a parent of their rights because of failure to pay. And if providing emotional support is a requirement to preventing adoption, there would be a lot of babies being adopted based on the threads in the Relationship Forum.

Anonymous wrote:Brianna, Luis isn't supposed to help you with the shower because you aren't supposed to throw your own shower...

Exactly! I was thinking the same thing!

And not only that, WTF is Bri's mom talking about, "Luis isn't helping financially." The baby isn't even here yet! Brianna isn't moving in with him and he's not moving in with her, so won't he have gear to buy for the baby for his own apartment? That family made their bed. They push all the men away and then wonder where they went!

Anonymous wrote:So Ali is having trouble breathing. All medical professionals have told Leah that Ali must frequently use her wheelchair, and Leah thinks it's a good idea to let Ali walk into her doctors appt?

She's embarrassed by the stigma of the wheelchair. She's never been for it, even though Ali falls often enough to warrant knee pads. Enough that she needs the support of holding a hand or her mother carrying her when she can't make it. Enough to need an aide to offer certain assistance at school.

Or she's just that much in denial or uneducated enough to stupidly think Ali will overcome MD.

I really think it's a mixture of both.

Oh Kail...do you even hear yourself? Your child support arguments are the same Joe said to you. Bottom line, you out earn Javi by several multiples. Yes, you may owe him child support for general living expenses.

Brianna, Luis isn't supposed to help you with the shower because you aren't supposed to throw your own shower...

Is David the longest boyfriend ever yet? He seems so unstable.

So Ali is having trouble breathing. All medical professionals have told Leah that Ali must frequently use her wheelchair, and Leah thinks it's a good idea to let Ali walk into her doctors appt?

Javi is such a good dad. Those boys are lucky to have him in their life. I'm glad Kail got over herself and dropped the PFA.