Anonymous wrote:All you secular humanists are insistent that only secular counseling can be implemented.

that is wrong.

There are all sorts of a ways a person can get counseled and grow and learn.

Anonymous wrote:Re: professional counseling.

I work in social services. I am not impressed with professional "child counseling."

I think religious counseling can be just as effective, esp. for a religious family. This is why many people seek out the advice of their pastors and religious leaders, etc.

By the way, I am not religious, but I think a lot of psychology is bunk...We are all human. the Duggars got someone to talk to Josh. He had daily counseling in the form of his religion.

Again, how many ways are there to say to him: "Josh, this was wrong; it was harmful; don't do it again." he has learned this lesson over and over and over.

Why does he need a PHD person to give him this lesson? why not a pastor? Same Diff really and truly. and because he is religious and so is his family, the religious moral lesson will probably stick with him.

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Anonymous wrote:Show of hands - how many people think Josh found this thread and he is the douche bag that keeps saying "its no big deal, he was a teen, his sisters were cool with it they forgave him and it was no big deal anyways it was just a bit of booby grabbing"

Hi Josh!

This is a lie. No one has said it was no big deal. Just because someone is supportive of how the Duggars handled this very difficult situation does not mean that they condone what happened.

This is a witch hunt.

OK, so you think the Duggar parents' response was appropriate? You don't think the abused children and Josh should have had counseling from licensed professionals?

*crickets chirping*

Poster who feels the Duggar parents parented appropriately, feel free to respond to this at any time. I'm curious as well. I can't imagine NOT seeking licensed, serious professional help in this situation.

Please name one local licensed professional with a solid history of success.
Imo, most of them are failures.

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Anonymous wrote:Show of hands - how many people think Josh found this thread and he is the douche bag that keeps saying "its no big deal, he was a teen, his sisters were cool with it they forgave him and it was no big deal anyways it was just a bit of booby grabbing"

Hi Josh!

This is a lie. No one has said it was no big deal. Just because someone is supportive of how the Duggars handled this very difficult situation does not mean that they condone what happened.

This is a witch hunt.

OK, so you think the Duggar parents' response was appropriate? You don't think the abused children and Josh should have had counseling from licensed professionals?

*crickets chirping*

Poster who feels the Duggar parents parented appropriately, feel free to respond to this at any time. I'm curious as well. I can't imagine NOT seeking licensed, serious professional help in this situation.

Please name one local licensed professional with a solid history of success.
Imo, most of them are failures.

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Anonymous wrote:Show of hands - how many people think Josh found this thread and he is the douche bag that keeps saying "its no big deal, he was a teen, his sisters were cool with it they forgave him and it was no big deal anyways it was just a bit of booby grabbing"

Hi Josh!

This is a lie. No one has said it was no big deal. Just because someone is supportive of how the Duggars handled this very difficult situation does not mean that they condone what happened.

This is a witch hunt.

OK, so you think the Duggar parents' response was appropriate? You don't think the abused children and Josh should have had counseling from licensed professionals?

*crickets chirping*

Poster who feels the Duggar parents parented appropriately, feel free to respond to this at any time. I'm curious as well. I can't imagine NOT seeking licensed, serious professional help in this situation.

Anonymous wrote:Can we have a just the facts thread with any new news links and a list of the sponsors?

Because these Duggar apologists are making me really sick to my stomach.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why people are shocked that a parenting board would sympathize in many ways with the difficulty the Duggars faced being parents to not only the victims but the perpetrator as well. It isn't about being Quiverfull, Conservative, or even Liberal. It is about being parents.

I agree and I this is why I am supporting them. I have never made any assumptions that they enabling their son or blamed their daughters or that their religion is to blame. Their statement seemed heartfelt. I think they did the best they could in a very difficult situation. It is so upsetting to me that people are villifying them.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why people are shocked that a parenting board would sympathize in many ways with the difficulty the Duggars faced being parents to not only the victims but the perpetrator as well. It isn't about being Quiverfull, Conservative, or even Liberal. It is about being parents.

I agree and I this is why I am supporting them. I have never made any assumptions that they enabling their son or blamed their daughters or that their religion is to blame. Their statement seemed heartfelt. I think they did the best they could in a very difficult situation. It is so upsetting to me that people are villifying them.

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why people are shocked that a parenting board would sympathize in many ways with the difficulty the Duggars faced being parents to not only the victims but the perpetrator as well. It isn't about being Quiverfull, Conservative, or even Liberal. It is about being parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Show of hands - how many people think Josh found this thread and he is the douche bag that keeps saying "its no big deal, he was a teen, his sisters were cool with it they forgave him and it was no big deal anyways it was just a bit of booby grabbing"

Hi Josh!

This is a lie. No one has said it was no big deal. Just because someone is supportive of how the Duggars handled this very difficult situation does not mean that they condone what happened.

This is a witch hunt.

OK, so you think the Duggar parents' response was appropriate? You don't think the abused children and Josh should have had counseling from licensed professionals?

*crickets chirping*

Anonymous wrote:For the hundreth time for the moron who don't seem to get this:

The DUGGARs do not support child molestation.

Why do you claim that they do?

the answer is: you hate them and their values and their religion.

Which is unfair and mean.