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Anonymous wrote:I think Lively is pretty unlikeable but some of the stuff coming out now makes Baldoni and Sarowitz both also seem unlikeable. I think it's perfectly fair to talk about what these guys are saying and doing and how it would play in front of a jury, just as we would discuss the same with Blake.

I think if you read some of these Sarowitz quotes, in particular, and think it's fine or won't turn people off, you have lost any objectivity on this case. It's clearly really awful, and the fact that this is how he's talking in a deposition for a lawsuit sort of alarms me. Most people will be on their best behavior in that setting, and the most careful with their words. The Hamas comment was also bad, but he was unknowingly recorded and it was a casual conversation. This was something he said in a conference room with lawyers and a court stenographer present! And it comes off as threatening, entitled, and misogynistic (IMO). That's a big red flag.

Nah, Justin comes off as the victim. People will sympathize with him. Not so much with Blake.

Why will people sympathize with him? He comes off as tone deaf and cowardly to me. Sarowitz comes off as a big bully which helps Blake, Ryan comes off as a big bully which helps Baldoni. I tend to think people will be less likely to hold Reynolds' behavior against him because (1) positive associations with his movies -- you cannot underestimate this, it helped Depp in his trial, and (2) people tend to give more leeway to a man who is seen to be acting to protect his wife or kids. It's a misogynistic attitude but it's very widespread, I've seen some nasty behavior justified this way before.

I think people are way underestimating how bad these Sarowitz comments are. If the Hamas quote or the email where Sarowitz threatens to come to set to remind Blake who is playing, or this quote from the depo, wind up in court, I think it helps Blake. Because even if you don't like her, all this taken together sound like threats by an employer towards a former employee. If they can convince the jury that these threats were in "retaliation" for her complaints... it's not really a stretch.

I would not have anticipated that Sarowitz would be the big bad in this one but that's how it's shaping up now.

Anonymous wrote:There's a TMZ poll on Instagram asking people who they believe in the Blake and Justin unimprovised kissing scene, and more than 90% support Justin with more than 50,000 votes. Casual TMZ watchers definitely represent the jury pool better than the freaks who post on r/BaldoniFiles and r/ItEndsWithCourt.

What makes you think "TMZ watchers" is at all representative of a jury pool?

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Anonymous wrote:Pro-Blake supporters are so funny. “Well, what about THIS inconsequential thing!” *proceeds to write pages and pages of analysis over something meaningless*

How many pages were devoted to a meaningless interview a decade ago?

Doesn't that prove your point? She's so unlikeable that it fueled pages of discourse around that interview. Exactly. Juries will hate her.

Jurors may also want to stick it to the jerk male billionaire. Everyone loves to hate them right now.

Blake and Ryan are also filthy rich. If that actually were a concern, it would be a wash.

How's that crystal ball working out for you so far in this case?

There's a TMZ poll on Instagram asking people who they believe in the Blake and Justin unimprovised kissing scene, and more than 90% support Justin with more than 50,000 votes. Casual TMZ watchers definitely represent the jury pool better than the freaks who post on r/BaldoniFiles and r/ItEndsWithCourt.

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Anonymous wrote:Pro-Blake supporters are so funny. “Well, what about THIS inconsequential thing!” *proceeds to write pages and pages of analysis over something meaningless*

How many pages were devoted to a meaningless interview a decade ago?

Doesn't that prove your point? She's so unlikeable that it fueled pages of discourse around that interview. Exactly. Juries will hate her.

Jurors may also want to stick it to the jerk male billionaire. Everyone loves to hate them right now.

At some point you have to give the jury some credit that they will listen to the facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Pro-Blake supporters are so funny. “Well, what about THIS inconsequential thing!” *proceeds to write pages and pages of analysis over something meaningless*

How many pages were devoted to a meaningless interview a decade ago?

Doesn't that prove your point? She's so unlikeable that it fueled pages of discourse around that interview. Exactly. Juries will hate her.

Jurors may also want to stick it to the jerk male billionaire. Everyone loves to hate them right now.

Blake and Ryan are also filthy rich. If that actually were a concern, it would be a wash.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Lively is pretty unlikeable but some of the stuff coming out now makes Baldoni and Sarowitz both also seem unlikeable. I think it's perfectly fair to talk about what these guys are saying and doing and how it would play in front of a jury, just as we would discuss the same with Blake.

I think if you read some of these Sarowitz quotes, in particular, and think it's fine or won't turn people off, you have lost any objectivity on this case. It's clearly really awful, and the fact that this is how he's talking in a deposition for a lawsuit sort of alarms me. Most people will be on their best behavior in that setting, and the most careful with their words. The Hamas comment was also bad, but he was unknowingly recorded and it was a casual conversation. This was something he said in a conference room with lawyers and a court stenographer present! And it comes off as threatening, entitled, and misogynistic (IMO). That's a big red flag.

Steve is a minor player. Jurors won't really care about him, and will fixate on Blake (very unlikeable) and Justin (very sympathetic).

Jurors haven't been obsessing over either of them all this time. They will form their own opinion not come in with guns loaded ready to settle the score.

Yes, and they will come to the conclusion some members of the GP did when they first came across Blake. Blake doesn't leave a good first impression either. Sucks for her.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Lively is pretty unlikeable but some of the stuff coming out now makes Baldoni and Sarowitz both also seem unlikeable. I think it's perfectly fair to talk about what these guys are saying and doing and how it would play in front of a jury, just as we would discuss the same with Blake.

I think if you read some of these Sarowitz quotes, in particular, and think it's fine or won't turn people off, you have lost any objectivity on this case. It's clearly really awful, and the fact that this is how he's talking in a deposition for a lawsuit sort of alarms me. Most people will be on their best behavior in that setting, and the most careful with their words. The Hamas comment was also bad, but he was unknowingly recorded and it was a casual conversation. This was something he said in a conference room with lawyers and a court stenographer present! And it comes off as threatening, entitled, and misogynistic (IMO). That's a big red flag.

Nah, Justin comes off as the victim. People will sympathize with him. Not so much with Blake.

His own PR people can't stand him. He's not likable.

I think they were just venting. The public has spoken and most people support Justin. Juror will behave similarly like the general public. Justin sounds like a dream boss, honestly. I'd be clamoring to work with him in Hollywood if he didn't do "socially responsible" films and did actually interesting projects.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Lively is pretty unlikeable but some of the stuff coming out now makes Baldoni and Sarowitz both also seem unlikeable. I think it's perfectly fair to talk about what these guys are saying and doing and how it would play in front of a jury, just as we would discuss the same with Blake.

I think if you read some of these Sarowitz quotes, in particular, and think it's fine or won't turn people off, you have lost any objectivity on this case. It's clearly really awful, and the fact that this is how he's talking in a deposition for a lawsuit sort of alarms me. Most people will be on their best behavior in that setting, and the most careful with their words. The Hamas comment was also bad, but he was unknowingly recorded and it was a casual conversation. This was something he said in a conference room with lawyers and a court stenographer present! And it comes off as threatening, entitled, and misogynistic (IMO). That's a big red flag.

Steve is a minor player. Jurors won't really care about him, and will fixate on Blake (very unlikeable) and Justin (very sympathetic).

Jurors haven't been obsessing over either of them all this time. They will form their own opinion not come in with guns loaded ready to settle the score.

Anonymous wrote:I think Lively is pretty unlikeable but some of the stuff coming out now makes Baldoni and Sarowitz both also seem unlikeable. I think it's perfectly fair to talk about what these guys are saying and doing and how it would play in front of a jury, just as we would discuss the same with Blake.

I think if you read some of these Sarowitz quotes, in particular, and think it's fine or won't turn people off, you have lost any objectivity on this case. It's clearly really awful, and the fact that this is how he's talking in a deposition for a lawsuit sort of alarms me. Most people will be on their best behavior in that setting, and the most careful with their words. The Hamas comment was also bad, but he was unknowingly recorded and it was a casual conversation. This was something he said in a conference room with lawyers and a court stenographer present! And it comes off as threatening, entitled, and misogynistic (IMO). That's a big red flag.

Steve is a minor player. Jurors won't really care about him, and will fixate on Blake (very unlikeable) and Justin (very sympathetic).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Lively is pretty unlikeable but some of the stuff coming out now makes Baldoni and Sarowitz both also seem unlikeable. I think it's perfectly fair to talk about what these guys are saying and doing and how it would play in front of a jury, just as we would discuss the same with Blake.

I think if you read some of these Sarowitz quotes, in particular, and think it's fine or won't turn people off, you have lost any objectivity on this case. It's clearly really awful, and the fact that this is how he's talking in a deposition for a lawsuit sort of alarms me. Most people will be on their best behavior in that setting, and the most careful with their words. The Hamas comment was also bad, but he was unknowingly recorded and it was a casual conversation. This was something he said in a conference room with lawyers and a court stenographer present! And it comes off as threatening, entitled, and misogynistic (IMO). That's a big red flag.

Nah, Justin comes off as the victim. People will sympathize with him. Not so much with Blake.

His own PR people can't stand him. He's not likable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pro-Blake supporters are so funny. “Well, what about THIS inconsequential thing!” *proceeds to write pages and pages of analysis over something meaningless*

How many pages were devoted to a meaningless interview a decade ago?

Doesn't that prove your point? She's so unlikeable that it fueled pages of discourse around that interview. Exactly. Juries will hate her.

Jurors may also want to stick it to the jerk male billionaire. Everyone loves to hate them right now.

Anonymous wrote:I think Lively is pretty unlikeable but some of the stuff coming out now makes Baldoni and Sarowitz both also seem unlikeable. I think it's perfectly fair to talk about what these guys are saying and doing and how it would play in front of a jury, just as we would discuss the same with Blake.

I think if you read some of these Sarowitz quotes, in particular, and think it's fine or won't turn people off, you have lost any objectivity on this case. It's clearly really awful, and the fact that this is how he's talking in a deposition for a lawsuit sort of alarms me. Most people will be on their best behavior in that setting, and the most careful with their words. The Hamas comment was also bad, but he was unknowingly recorded and it was a casual conversation. This was something he said in a conference room with lawyers and a court stenographer present! And it comes off as threatening, entitled, and misogynistic (IMO). That's a big red flag.

Nah, Justin comes off as the victim. People will sympathize with him. Not so much with Blake.

The comment about her owing him money and needing to send him a check is also straight up bizarre because the obvious come back on that is that she already paid him back -- the movie was wildly successful and Lively's fee a drop in the bucket in the context of overall proceeds from the movie. And no one can argue with a straight face that literally anyone saw this movie because it was "Steve Sarowitz produced." Lively doesn't owe him anything, she made him a bunch of cash.

I think Lively is pretty unlikeable but some of the stuff coming out now makes Baldoni and Sarowitz both also seem unlikeable. I think it's perfectly fair to talk about what these guys are saying and doing and how it would play in front of a jury, just as we would discuss the same with Blake.

I think if you read some of these Sarowitz quotes, in particular, and think it's fine or won't turn people off, you have lost any objectivity on this case. It's clearly really awful, and the fact that this is how he's talking in a deposition for a lawsuit sort of alarms me. Most people will be on their best behavior in that setting, and the most careful with their words. The Hamas comment was also bad, but he was unknowingly recorded and it was a casual conversation. This was something he said in a conference room with lawyers and a court stenographer present! And it comes off as threatening, entitled, and misogynistic (IMO). That's a big red flag.