Anonymous wrote:Calling it a scam is so hyperbolic.

No one claims going to a school like Sidwell means the golden path to an Ivy League school.

What it does provide is a solid, foundational education. Period.

Looking at this years class list, it is very impressive to where the kids are going to college. Same with GDS and Maret.

Just because there aren't 100 kids out of 130 going to Ivies doesn't make it a scam. The kids are all going to fine schools and have a great educational background from which to launch whatever comes next.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell is a scam. They admit the parents and situation. The kid is a byproduct.

Funny how the vast majority of Sidwell parents went to Ivy or other too schools. Thus assuring the legacy bump the child would have received from any school.

If the parent isn’t from an Ivy or other too school, you can bet the child is a URM, first in family to go to college or exceptional athlete.

The admissions office stacks the deck. These children would have had the same outcome from any school in the DMV.

But a scam is a scam.

This. And if your kid / parent isn’t one of these categories, they are most certainly full pay financing the other categories. Tulane here you come.

And TJ still has much better admissions to top colleges/universities without legacy, connections and donations.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell is a scam. They admit the parents and situation. The kid is a byproduct.

Funny how the vast majority of Sidwell parents went to Ivy or other too schools. Thus assuring the legacy bump the child would have received from any school.

If the parent isn’t from an Ivy or other too school, you can bet the child is a URM, first in family to go to college or exceptional athlete.

The admissions office stacks the deck. These children would have had the same outcome from any school in the DMV.

But a scam is a scam.

This. And if your kid / parent isn’t one of these categories, they are most certainly full pay financing the other categories. Tulane here you come.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell is a scam. They admit the parents and situation. The kid is a byproduct.

Funny how the vast majority of Sidwell parents went to Ivy or other too schools. Thus assuring the legacy bump the child would have received from any school.

If the parent isn’t from an Ivy or other too school, you can bet the child is a URM, first in family to go to college or exceptional athlete.

The admissions office stacks the deck. These children would have had the same outcome from any school in the DMV.

But a scam is a scam.

This. And if your kid / parent isn’t one of these categories, they are most certainly full pay financing the other categories. Tulane here you come.

I agree with this.
We're in the "sucker" category. Academically top kid but no hook: not legacy, URM or recruit.
I watched it play out this year. It was more apparent than ever that my kid will get into a worse college by attending Sidwell than he would have by attending public school.

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Anonymous wrote:Walk Street values brainpower and intellect above all else because that alone gives the firm “the edge” to make money. If a mediocre, over-prepped and over-tutored legacy from, say Yale, even makes it past the first interview, he will definitely not get past the second. They will sniff him out and see that there is no there there. Wall Street likes super smart, ambitious and often scrappy. These days they recruit engineering, math and cs majors way more than history and econ majors from Ivy/top schools. I can think of no successful hedge fund, private equity or investment bank head who is an Ivy legacy. Ivy definitely yes, Ivy legacy no. Your frame of reference is way out of date.

You guys act like the stats of legacies are much lower than non legacies. We're talking about 1450 vs 1500 here. I can see why these firms aren't ethnically diverse.

There's a reason these kids' parents went to Ivies. They're smart. And their kids are smart. Yes, it's genetic. Being born to rich, smart, white parents doesn't make you stupid, in fact, chances are, it makes you smart, hard-working, and driven, for the most part. Hate to break it to all of you.

It's funny because most of the Ivy league graduates I know did not send their own kids to Ivy League colleges.

None of Einstein's kids earned a Nobel prize.

That's because their kids didn't get in. You have to give 7 figures to get Harvard's admissions office to take notice. Ask me how I know.

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Anonymous wrote:Walk Street values brainpower and intellect above all else because that alone gives the firm “the edge” to make money. If a mediocre, over-prepped and over-tutored legacy from, say Yale, even makes it past the first interview, he will definitely not get past the second. They will sniff him out and see that there is no there there. Wall Street likes super smart, ambitious and often scrappy. These days they recruit engineering, math and cs majors way more than history and econ majors from Ivy/top schools. I can think of no successful hedge fund, private equity or investment bank head who is an Ivy legacy. Ivy definitely yes, Ivy legacy no. Your frame of reference is way out of date.

You guys act like the stats of legacies are much lower than non legacies. We're talking about 1450 vs 1500 here. I can see why these firms aren't ethnically diverse.

There's a reason these kids' parents went to Ivies. They're smart. And their kids are smart. Yes, it's genetic. Being born to rich, smart, white parents doesn't make you stupid, in fact, chances are, it makes you smart, hard-working, and driven, for the most part. Hate to break it to all of you.

It's funny because most of the Ivy league graduates I know did not send their own kids to Ivy League colleges.

None of Einstein's kids earned a Nobel prize.

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Anonymous wrote:Legacy these days actually backfires in interviews with Wall Street investment banks and private equity when they discover the candidate got into, say Yale, via legacy preference. It sort of delegitimizes the candidate. Very different from even 10 years ago.

I find this hard to believe this. Wall Street lives and thrives on connections to the elite.

I had an internship with Morgan Stanley in NYC the summer after junior year. Every single kid in the program bar one (29 of 30) was from the Ivy league or MIT; fully half were from Wharton. I can't tell you whether they were screening out legacy preferences as where our parents went to school was thankfully not a big topic of conversation, but it seems very unlikely & several people were clearly from old money. What I can tell you is that there was only 1 kid not from an Ivy league school, so they clearly weren't screening in anyone else...

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This is now complete outdated. With the new criteria post covid woke-ism era, every internship has to demonstrate that it is NOT elitist. This means the benefits from attending an elite institution going forward are greatly diminished.

You're an idiot. Applications are at an all time high yields are also high as more kids apply ED and acceptance rates for most elite schools are below 15%.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell is a scam. They admit the parents and situation. The kid is a byproduct.

Funny how the vast majority of Sidwell parents went to Ivy or other too schools. Thus assuring the legacy bump the child would have received from any school.

If the parent isn’t from an Ivy or other too school, you can bet the child is a URM, first in family to go to college or exceptional athlete.

The admissions office stacks the deck. These children would have had the same outcome from any school in the DMV.

But a scam is a scam.

This. And if your kid / parent isn’t one of these categories, they are most certainly full pay financing the other categories. Tulane here you come.

I agree with this.
We're in the "sucker" category. Academically top kid but no hook: not legacy, URM or recruit.
I watched it play out this year. It was more apparent than ever that my kid will get into a worse college by attending Sidwell than he would have by attending public school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sidwell is a scam. They admit the parents and situation. The kid is a byproduct.

Funny how the vast majority of Sidwell parents went to Ivy or other too schools. Thus assuring the legacy bump the child would have received from any school.

If the parent isn’t from an Ivy or other too school, you can bet the child is a URM, first in family to go to college or exceptional athlete.

The admissions office stacks the deck. These children would have had the same outcome from any school in the DMV.

But a scam is a scam.

This. And if your kid / parent isn’t one of these categories, they are most certainly full pay financing the other categories. Tulane here you come.

Anonymous wrote:Sidwell is a scam. They admit the parents and situation. The kid is a byproduct.

Funny how the vast majority of Sidwell parents went to Ivy or other too schools. Thus assuring the legacy bump the child would have received from any school.

If the parent isn’t from an Ivy or other too school, you can bet the child is a URM, first in family to go to college or exceptional athlete.

The admissions office stacks the deck. These children would have had the same outcome from any school in the DMV.

But a scam is a scam.

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Anonymous wrote:Walk Street values brainpower and intellect above all else because that alone gives the firm “the edge” to make money. If a mediocre, over-prepped and over-tutored legacy from, say Yale, even makes it past the first interview, he will definitely not get past the second. They will sniff him out and see that there is no there there. Wall Street likes super smart, ambitious and often scrappy. These days they recruit engineering, math and cs majors way more than history and econ majors from Ivy/top schools. I can think of no successful hedge fund, private equity or investment bank head who is an Ivy legacy. Ivy definitely yes, Ivy legacy no. Your frame of reference is way out of date.

You guys act like the stats of legacies are much lower than non legacies. We're talking about 1450 vs 1500 here. I can see why these firms aren't ethnically diverse.

There's a reason these kids' parents went to Ivies. They're smart. And their kids are smart. Yes, it's genetic. Being born to rich, smart, white parents doesn't make you stupid, in fact, chances are, it makes you smart, hard-working, and driven, for the most part. Hate to break it to all of you.