Anonymous
Post 05/19/2020 11:19     Subject: Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

This is a good thread that summarizes how Flynn lied and hypothizes as to why



I would be interested to understand from Flynn defenders where this person is wrong.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2020 11:18     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile there was ZERO unmasking requests of Flynn until weeks after the 12/29/16 call. McCabe testified the FBI had the call the day it was made. The Presidental Daily Briefing Staff asked McCabe for the call on January 4th, the day before the famous oval office meeting and 2 days before the Trump Tower pee briefing


Patently false. The requests disclosed by Grennell posted earlier in this thread showed the calls requested had nothing to do with Russia/Kislyak, and most likely more to do with Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, given the requesters.

How many foreign governments was Flynn working for?!


Turkey
Israel
Saudi Arabia
Russia

There may be others, those are the ones I have seen claimed.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2020 06:56     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spying in Obama administration's Treasury?
https://theohiostar.com/2020/05/18/exclusive-the-treasury-department-spied-on-flynn-manafort-and-the-trump-family-says-whistleblower/


They weren't spying on those individuals. They were following illegal and suspicious money transfers, that happened to be those individuals, once unmasked.

Ask yourself, why were those people involved in illegal money transfers, some with sanctioned states?


If they were, DOJ would have had to given approval for the info to be accessed. It wasn't, hence the WB complaint.


That's not how it works.


They would have had to get approval, either through a Title III warrant or a FISA warrant. Neither was applied for or granted.
My question, why didn't the Treasury IG act on the whistleblower complaint?
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2020 01:12     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile there was ZERO unmasking requests of Flynn until weeks after the 12/29/16 call. McCabe testified the FBI had the call the day it was made. The Presidental Daily Briefing Staff asked McCabe for the call on January 4th, the day before the famous oval office meeting and 2 days before the Trump Tower pee briefing


Patently false. The requests disclosed by Grennell posted earlier in this thread showed the calls requested had nothing to do with Russia/Kislyak, and most likely more to do with Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, given the requesters.

How many foreign governments was Flynn working for?!
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2020 21:54     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spying in Obama administration's Treasury?
https://theohiostar.com/2020/05/18/exclusive-the-treasury-department-spied-on-flynn-manafort-and-the-trump-family-says-whistleblower/


They weren't spying on those individuals. They were following illegal and suspicious money transfers, that happened to be those individuals, once unmasked.

Ask yourself, why were those people involved in illegal money transfers, some with sanctioned states?


If they were, DOJ would have had to given approval for the info to be accessed. It wasn't, hence the WB complaint.


That's not how it works.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2020 21:48     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spying in Obama administration's Treasury?
https://theohiostar.com/2020/05/18/exclusive-the-treasury-department-spied-on-flynn-manafort-and-the-trump-family-says-whistleblower/


They weren't spying on those individuals. They were following illegal and suspicious money transfers, that happened to be those individuals, once unmasked.

Ask yourself, why were those people involved in illegal money transfers, some with sanctioned states?


If they were, DOJ would have had to given approval for the info to be accessed. It wasn't, hence the WB complaint.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2020 21:45     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spying in Obama administration's Treasury?
https://theohiostar.com/2020/05/18/exclusive-the-treasury-department-spied-on-flynn-manafort-and-the-trump-family-says-whistleblower/


They weren't spying on those individuals. They were following illegal and suspicious money transfers, that happened to be those individuals, once unmasked.

Ask yourself, why were those people involved in illegal money transfers, some with sanctioned states?


Some of that was detailed in Manafort's charging documents.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2020 21:43     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile there was ZERO unmasking requests of Flynn until weeks after the 12/29/16 call. McCabe testified the FBI had the call the day it was made. The Presidental Daily Briefing Staff asked McCabe for the call on January 4th, the day before the famous oval office meeting and 2 days before the Trump Tower pee briefing


Patently false. The requests disclosed by Grennell posted earlier in this thread showed the calls requested had nothing to do with Russia/Kislyak, and most likely more to do with Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, given the requesters.


Woohoo! Burning down national security issues!

Buncha amateurs.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2020 21:42     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Anonymous wrote:Spying in Obama administration's Treasury?
https://theohiostar.com/2020/05/18/exclusive-the-treasury-department-spied-on-flynn-manafort-and-the-trump-family-says-whistleblower/


They weren't spying on those individuals. They were following illegal and suspicious money transfers, that happened to be those individuals, once unmasked.

Ask yourself, why were those people involved in illegal money transfers, some with sanctioned states?
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2020 21:40     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile there was ZERO unmasking requests of Flynn until weeks after the 12/29/16 call. McCabe testified the FBI had the call the day it was made. The Presidental Daily Briefing Staff asked McCabe for the call on January 4th, the day before the famous oval office meeting and 2 days before the Trump Tower pee briefing


Patently false. The requests disclosed by Grennell posted earlier in this thread showed the calls requested had nothing to do with Russia/Kislyak, and most likely more to do with Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, given the requesters.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2020 21:30     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Anonymous
Post 05/18/2020 21:19     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Anonymous
Post 05/18/2020 18:41     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Meanwhile there was ZERO unmasking requests of Flynn until weeks after the 12/29/16 call. McCabe testified the FBI had the call the day it was made. The Presidental Daily Briefing Staff asked McCabe for the call on January 4th, the day before the famous oval office meeting and 2 days before the Trump Tower pee briefing
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2020 16:32     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obama and Biden weaponized our intelligence agencies to spy on political rivals. Just ask all those 501c3 groups, Sharyl Attickson, James Rosen etal...


You have it wrong friend. The intelligence agencies under Obama and Biden, as they had for the previous 70 years, were working on behalf of the American people against the bad guys. The bad guys are the ones who were conspiring with our enemies against the national interest. They were discovered because they were doing this in a way that the IC and our allies were able to monitor calls of our adversaries and discern there were Americans conspiring with them. The unmasking process is to find out who was doing the conspiring and the unmasking revealed that it was political rivals.

The original discussion around the counter-intelligence was done literally to protect Trump FROM these traitors. It was only when Trump got defensive, both in August 2016 and then later with Comey, that everyone realized that Trump was part of the problem. Everything since has been the firehose of shit to cover for the traitors, including the one in the Oval Office.


Who was found to have "conspired"?


Stone was. Flynn was. Read the documents.

Junior wanted to but was too dumb to figure out how.

Etc.


I did. There is no charge of conspiracy.


And if you read the report, Mueller explains why.



Mueller was unable to make a determination on whether to pursue charges for obstruction of justice and conspiracy to suborn perjury because ...

wait for it....

Trump is the sitting president and the OLC guidance made it futile.


What does that have to do with whether Stone or Flynn conspired (as PP asserts above)?
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2020 16:25     Subject: Re:Barr Installs Outside Prosecutor to Review Case Against Michael Flynn, Ex-Trump Adviser

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obama and Biden weaponized our intelligence agencies to spy on political rivals. Just ask all those 501c3 groups, Sharyl Attickson, James Rosen etal...


You have it wrong friend. The intelligence agencies under Obama and Biden, as they had for the previous 70 years, were working on behalf of the American people against the bad guys. The bad guys are the ones who were conspiring with our enemies against the national interest. They were discovered because they were doing this in a way that the IC and our allies were able to monitor calls of our adversaries and discern there were Americans conspiring with them. The unmasking process is to find out who was doing the conspiring and the unmasking revealed that it was political rivals.

The original discussion around the counter-intelligence was done literally to protect Trump FROM these traitors. It was only when Trump got defensive, both in August 2016 and then later with Comey, that everyone realized that Trump was part of the problem. Everything since has been the firehose of shit to cover for the traitors, including the one in the Oval Office.


Who was found to have "conspired"?


Stone was. Flynn was. Read the documents.

Junior wanted to but was too dumb to figure out how.

Etc.


I did. There is no charge of conspiracy.


And if you read the report, Mueller explains why.



Mueller was unable to make a determination on whether to pursue charges for obstruction of justice and conspiracy to suborn perjury because ...

wait for it....

Trump is the sitting president and the OLC guidance made it futile.