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Anonymous wrote:I'm not talking about the kids, I'm talking about the parents. They don't value diversity, so fine. Make W & Y as segregated as can be. It's not great for the kids, but parents are making that choice when they buy in those neigborhoods.

The SB could choose any of the options it's been presented with and the NArl kids would cope just fine if the parents helped them rather than whining.

You must be on crack. Most S.Arl residents who post on DCUM don't value diversity, either. They want a short commute and can't afford N.Arl, and now they want N.Arl kids bussed into their schools to bail them out. And then when they don't get their way they come on here and try to tear down the very people whose kids they actually want assigned to their GS 3 schools.

Far north Arlington parents are happy to bus kids around the middle knowing that their kids won't be forced to move. UMC families in South Arlington want to bus kids to improve their schools. The families whose kids would actually get on buses, going north and south, don't want to be bussed to satisfy the needs of everyone else. It's not the job of these families to fix bad social policy.

Anonymous wrote:I'm not talking about the kids, I'm talking about the parents. They don't value diversity, so fine. Make W & Y as segregated as can be. It's not great for the kids, but parents are making that choice when they buy in those neigborhoods.

The SB could choose any of the options it's been presented with and the NArl kids would cope just fine if the parents helped them rather than whining.

You must be on crack. Most S.Arl residents who post on DCUM don't value diversity, either. They want a short commute and can't afford N.Arl, and now they want N.Arl kids bussed into their schools to bail them out. And then when they don't get their way they come on here and try to tear down the very people whose kids they actually want assigned to their GS 3 schools.

I'm not talking about the kids, I'm talking about the parents. They don't value diversity, so fine. Make W & Y as segregated as can be. It's not great for the kids, but parents are making that choice when they buy in those neigborhoods.

The SB could choose any of the options it's been presented with and the NArl kids would cope just fine if the parents helped them rather than whining.

The way some adults talk about kids is just eye popping.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody wants to go to Williamsburg or Yorktown enough to take a longer bus ride for it. (My kids are currently zoned for Swanson & W-L, and I don't care if they're rezoned for any MS that isn't W, and I don't care if they're moved to Wakefield.)

Then for the love of god stop wailing and gnashing your teeth about the lack of diversity at Williamsburg. Shouldn't you all be glad that all of the rich assholes are concentrated in one school so the rest of you don't have to deal with it?

I'm not. I'm hollering about the SB's other decisions that create demographic imbalances at schools that have the potential to do better.

I'm happy to write off Williamsburg and Yorktown. Fuck them.

Oh, and such a classy way to talk about kids. I'm sure you're setting a shining example for yours.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody wants to go to Williamsburg or Yorktown enough to take a longer bus ride for it. (My kids are currently zoned for Swanson & W-L, and I don't care if they're rezoned for any MS that isn't W, and I don't care if they're moved to Wakefield.)

Then for the love of god stop wailing and gnashing your teeth about the lack of diversity at Williamsburg. Shouldn't you all be glad that all of the rich assholes are concentrated in one school so the rest of you don't have to deal with it?

I'm not. I'm hollering about the SB's other decisions that create demographic imbalances at schools that have the potential to do better.

I'm happy to write off Williamsburg and Yorktown. Fuck them.

Examples of such decisions?

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody wants to go to Williamsburg or Yorktown enough to take a longer bus ride for it. (My kids are currently zoned for Swanson & W-L, and I don't care if they're rezoned for any MS that isn't W, and I don't care if they're moved to Wakefield.)

Then for the love of god stop wailing and gnashing your teeth about the lack of diversity at Williamsburg. Shouldn't you all be glad that all of the rich assholes are concentrated in one school so the rest of you don't have to deal with it?

I'm not. I'm hollering about the SB's other decisions that create demographic imbalances at schools that have the potential to do better.

I'm happy to write off Williamsburg and Yorktown. Fuck them.

Ugh way is there so much bs to this zoning?

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Anonymous wrote:Can the open slots at Williamsburg be converted to an APS lottery? Like H-B Woodlawn.

They should do a lottery but only for ED students.

Like VPI but for Middle School - VMI?

Yes. Otherwise it will just be a brain drain with the highest SES kids from Jefferson and Kenmore transferring.

You may be overestimating the appeal of attending school with the spawn of snotty rich folks.

+1. Count me as a parent who is THRIlLLED to avoid further interaction with the miserable Washington Golf crowd as a result of being redistricted to Stratford. Due to current boundaries, I have spent far more time with them than I would wish on anyone. Truly, they are the saddest, drunkest, least spouse-faithful group of people you will ever meet. Their sons play lacrosse and their daughters are on dance team and they throw parties that seem like so much fun until you realize how much they hate everyone - including themselves. Anyhow, I'm rambling, but cheers to Stratford and some chance at normalcy for our kids!

I hate to break it to you but the latest Stratford boundary butts right up against WGCC, and plenty of WGCC will go to Stratford. Have fun!

Anonymous wrote:Nobody wants to go to Williamsburg or Yorktown enough to take a longer bus ride for it. (My kids are currently zoned for Swanson & W-L, and I don't care if they're rezoned for any MS that isn't W, and I don't care if they're moved to Wakefield.)

Then for the love of god stop wailing and gnashing your teeth about the lack of diversity at Williamsburg. Shouldn't you all be glad that all of the rich assholes are concentrated in one school so the rest of you don't have to deal with it?

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Anonymous wrote:Can the open slots at Williamsburg be converted to an APS lottery? Like H-B Woodlawn.

They should do a lottery but only for ED students.

Like VPI but for Middle School - VMI?

Yes. Otherwise it will just be a brain drain with the highest SES kids from Jefferson and Kenmore transferring.

You may be overestimating the appeal of attending school with the spawn of snotty rich folks.

+1. Count me as a parent who is THRIlLLED to avoid further interaction with the miserable Washington Golf crowd as a result of being redistricted to Stratford. Due to current boundaries, I have spent far more time with them than I would wish on anyone. Truly, they are the saddest, drunkest, least spouse-faithful group of people you will ever meet. Their sons play lacrosse and their daughters are on dance team and they throw parties that seem like so much fun until you realize how much they hate everyone - including themselves. Anyhow, I'm rambling, but cheers to Stratford and some chance at normalcy for our kids!

You just made me laugh out loud. Can we be friends? I don’t know a lot of Williamsburg parents, but I do know two who are WGCC members and this pretty much is them spot on. We’ll be at Stratford too - coming from Swanson though.

Nobody wants to go to Williamsburg or Yorktown enough to take a longer bus ride for it. (My kids are currently zoned for Swanson & W-L, and I don't care if they're rezoned for any MS that isn't W, and I don't care if they're moved to Wakefield.)

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How do you think that will work out? Yeah, let's bus a bunch of kids from Williamsburg (which will already have excess capacity) south into schools that are already over capacity, making overcrowding in those schools even worse, but then bus no one north to fill their seats at Williamsburg. WTF?

Has anyone argued for busing kids in the far reaches of North Arlington to schools south of Rt. 50? What some plans would have done is move families south of Wilson Blvd to middle or high schools south of 50. And that's where the caterwauling starts: With the prospect of a 10-minute bus ride.

How about moving some 5th grade classes to Williamsburg so that students get to have five years with one group of students, then four and four? Wouldn't that be a more-stable environment?

The caterwauling starts when people want to take kids who are walkable to a middle school and bus them elsewhere in the name of diversity, while the richest and whitest kids get to safely stay on buses that take them to the richest and whitest middle school. If the county wanted to balance the proximity vs diversity, then walkable kids would stay walkable, and kids who would be on buses anyway would get bused to various schools to more appropriately balance demographics. After all, those liberals in Country Club Hills would be happy to bus their kids to Kenmore or Jefferson, right? Mixing kids at Swanson, Kenmore and Jefferson while protecting the wealthy Williamsburg bubble doesn't pass the laugh test.

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Anonymous wrote:Can the open slots at Williamsburg be converted to an APS lottery? Like H-B Woodlawn.

They should do a lottery but only for ED students.

Like VPI but for Middle School - VMI?

Yes. Otherwise it will just be a brain drain with the highest SES kids from Jefferson and Kenmore transferring.

You may be overestimating the appeal of attending school with the spawn of snotty rich folks.

+1. Count me as a parent who is THRIlLLED to avoid further interaction with the miserable Washington Golf crowd as a result of being redistricted to Stratford. Due to current boundaries, I have spent far more time with them than I would wish on anyone. Truly, they are the saddest, drunkest, least spouse-faithful group of people you will ever meet. Their sons play lacrosse and their daughters are on dance team and they throw parties that seem like so much fun until you realize how much they hate everyone - including themselves. Anyhow, I'm rambling, but cheers to Stratford and some chance at normalcy for our kids!

+1. So glad to get out of Williamsburg!

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How do you think that will work out? Yeah, let's bus a bunch of kids from Williamsburg (which will already have excess capacity) south into schools that are already over capacity, making overcrowding in those schools even worse, but then bus no one north to fill their seats at Williamsburg. WTF?

Has anyone argued for busing kids in the far reaches of North Arlington to schools south of Rt. 50? What some plans would have done is move families south of Wilson Blvd to middle or high schools south of 50. And that's where the caterwauling starts: With the prospect of a 10-minute bus ride.

How about moving some 5th grade classes to Williamsburg so that students get to have five years with one group of students, then four and four? Wouldn't that be a more-stable environment?