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Anonymous wrote:Just dumb poor white trash from Appalachia who enlisted on a whim as a teen during a hot war and gets the cushiest desk post there is. What are the odds.

There are no “desk jobs” for lower enlisted Marines on deployment.

I suggest those of you trashing his four-year military service read this. No, he did not see combat - as he VERY CLEARLY states in this piece. He did, however, learn a lot of very valuable lessons that it appears many of you have never learned.

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2024-07-16/vance-trump-marines-vice-president-republicans-14505177.html

He very clearly states he was attached to units, when on missions and was in dangerous situations in unsecured areas. He got lucky that is wasn’t injured or killed, but he was most definitely in harms way and putting his life on the line. I worked as an active duty nurse and we had causalities from all different units and MOSs, not just infantry, including some of own nurses. So take a seat and stay in your lane.

PP here and I agree with you. I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Trolls have claimed that Vance made the claim that he "had seen combat," when in reality he had not. I was providing that link to show that he never made that claim - ever - and that in fact, he's very open about what his assignments were. I agree that he was in harm's way merely by being in the military. IOW, he never claimed to be anything he was not, unlike what the trolls would have everyone believe.

JD Vance was a public affairs REMF. He mostly did desk duty and the occasional photo op.

WASHINGTON — Long before J.D. Vance became the Republican nominee for vice president, he was known as Cpl. James D. Hamel, a combat correspondent in the Marine Corps. Vance, now a senator from Ohio, enlisted after graduating from high school in 2003 and served for four years, including a six-month stint in Iraq beginning in late 2005.

He spent his service working in public affairs, writing about Marines and taking photographs of their work, escorting civilian news reporters and speaking about happenings on base. In Iraq, he embedded with different units to get a sense of their daily routines and wrote a story about a crew keeping KC-130J tankers in the air. He also waded into unprotected Iraqi territory with a civil affairs unit to meet with locals.

“I was lucky to escape any real fighting,” Vance wrote of his deployment. In his last nine months in service, Vance said he unexpectedly became a media relations officer at Cherry Point — a position typically reserved for the most senior Marines. The job involved liaising with news media, considered the “holy grail” of Marine Corps public affairs with the “biggest audience and the highest stakes.” “The experience taught me a valuable lesson: That I could do it. I could work 20-hour days when I had to. I could speak clearly and confidently with TV cameras shoved in my face. I could stand in a room with majors, colonels, and generals and hold my own. I could do a captain’s job even when I feared I couldn’t,” he wrote.
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2024-07-16/vance-trump-marines-vice-president-republicans-14505177.html

Smart dude. Lots of guys get out and end up working in career fields where their job in the service doesn’t translate well in terms of skills.

Sounds like he got something out of it that helped him long term. Not sure why there is so much hate for him here.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems are so funny. Do you have anything to say other than snarky personal attacks?

+1. I love how they are using gay and religion as pejoratives when it suits their theme.

+ a million
Not to mention, misogyny and racism. This thread is a masterclass of the inner workings of the liberal "mind." The hypocrisy is truly something to behold.

It is interesting.

I don't like any and all of them

But seeing where progressives are going - hating on a woman for class, race, ethnicity. Not loving her appearance.

Yeah, that's going to turn out well.

Progressives being super as usual and absolutely destroying things for every other human being.

On brand

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Anonymous wrote:Russ Douhat had a very revealing interview with Vance in The NY Times. Whatever your politics, it’s hard to argue that Biden, Harris, or Trump are nearly as smart or insightful as Vance, who offers nuanced, well formed answers to every question posed:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/13/opinion/jd-vance-interview.html

This guy seems like an actual intellectual, not a lightweight peddling cliches and poll tested talking points, which is refreshing.

Talk is cheap. He would force his own wife or daughter to bear her rapist's baby. So intellectual! Such nuance! So insightful and well formed!

I like it when he says it is “inconvenient” when a woman becomes pregnant from rape.

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Vance is opposed to abortion; on the website for his 2022 campaign for the Senate, he declared himself “100 percent pro-life” and called for “eliminating abortion.” However, he said on CNN in December 2023: “We have to accept that people do not want blanket abortion bans. They just don’t. And I say that as a person who wants to protect as many unborn babies as possible. We have to provide exceptions for life of the mother, for rape, and so forth.”
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/10/politics/fact-check-biden-campaign-j-d-vance-heritage-foundation/index.html

He has an anti abortion agenda like trump and the rest of the GOP. That is the GOP now. A losing stance but that is their stance.

+1 And not just anti-abortion, but anti birth control, too.

DP. What are you babbling about? That's just complete bull$hit. From the GOP 2024 platform:

We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments).

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform

What are you babbling about? That was roe more or less and they blew that up. They are entirely full of crap.

You don't seem very bright. No states ban birth control. Just stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Just dumb poor white trash from Appalachia who enlisted on a whim as a teen during a hot war and gets the cushiest desk post there is. What are the odds.

There are no “desk jobs” for lower enlisted Marines on deployment.

I suggest those of you trashing his four-year military service read this. No, he did not see combat - as he VERY CLEARLY states in this piece. He did, however, learn a lot of very valuable lessons that it appears many of you have never learned.

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2024-07-16/vance-trump-marines-vice-president-republicans-14505177.html

He very clearly states he was attached to units, when on missions and was in dangerous situations in unsecured areas. He got lucky that is wasn’t injured or killed, but he was most definitely in harms way and putting his life on the line. I worked as an active duty nurse and we had causalities from all different units and MOSs, not just infantry, including some of own nurses. So take a seat and stay in your lane.

PP here and I agree with you. I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Trolls have claimed that Vance made the claim that he "had seen combat," when in reality he had not. I was providing that link to show that he never made that claim - ever - and that in fact, he's very open about what his assignments were. I agree that he was in harm's way merely by being in the military. IOW, he never claimed to be anything he was not, unlike what the trolls would have everyone believe.

JD Vance was a public affairs REMF. He mostly did desk duty and the occasional photo op.

WASHINGTON — Long before J.D. Vance became the Republican nominee for vice president, he was known as Cpl. James D. Hamel, a combat correspondent in the Marine Corps. Vance, now a senator from Ohio, enlisted after graduating from high school in 2003 and served for four years, including a six-month stint in Iraq beginning in late 2005.

He spent his service working in public affairs, writing about Marines and taking photographs of their work, escorting civilian news reporters and speaking about happenings on base. In Iraq, he embedded with different units to get a sense of their daily routines and wrote a story about a crew keeping KC-130J tankers in the air. He also waded into unprotected Iraqi territory with a civil affairs unit to meet with locals.

“I was lucky to escape any real fighting,” Vance wrote of his deployment. In his last nine months in service, Vance said he unexpectedly became a media relations officer at Cherry Point — a position typically reserved for the most senior Marines. The job involved liaising with news media, considered the “holy grail” of Marine Corps public affairs with the “biggest audience and the highest stakes.” “The experience taught me a valuable lesson: That I could do it. I could work 20-hour days when I had to. I could speak clearly and confidently with TV cameras shoved in my face. I could stand in a room with majors, colonels, and generals and hold my own. I could do a captain’s job even when I feared I couldn’t,” he wrote.
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2024-07-16/vance-trump-marines-vice-president-republicans-14505177.html

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Anonymous wrote:What in the H will Melania and Usha Vance talk about?

Doubtful that whatever they discuss will be in English.

What other common language do they speak?
Or do you think that there are only two languages in the world: English and "whatever everyone else speaks"?

They are both foreigners who can barely speak English.

OMG, the ignorance is astounding. Usha Vance was born in San Diego, you utter dolt. Stop your inane trolling.

Is it trolling or are they just showing how racist they are?

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Anonymous wrote:Do we actually know if she’s Brahmin

Why does this matter to you? Why are Democrats so obsessed with race and ethnicity?

Democrats aren't. Maybe you assume too much about anonymous posters. It's right wingers like Nick Fuentes who are obsessed with her race.

Nick Fuentes has to be a troll. He's just outrageous.

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Anonymous wrote:What in the H will Melania and Usha Vance talk about?

Doubtful that whatever they discuss will be in English.

What other common language do they speak?
Or do you think that there are only two languages in the world: English and "whatever everyone else speaks"?

They are both foreigners who can barely speak English.

OMG, the ignorance is astounding. Usha Vance was born in San Diego, you utter dolt. Stop your inane trolling.

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Anonymous wrote:Just dumb poor white trash from Appalachia who enlisted on a whim as a teen during a hot war and gets the cushiest desk post there is. What are the odds.

There are no “desk jobs” for lower enlisted Marines on deployment.

I suggest those of you trashing his four-year military service read this. No, he did not see combat - as he VERY CLEARLY states in this piece. He did, however, learn a lot of very valuable lessons that it appears many of you have never learned.

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2024-07-16/vance-trump-marines-vice-president-republicans-14505177.html

He very clearly states he was attached to units, when on missions and was in dangerous situations in unsecured areas. He got lucky that is wasn’t injured or killed, but he was most definitely in harms way and putting his life on the line. I worked as an active duty nurse and we had causalities from all different units and MOSs, not just infantry, including some of own nurses. So take a seat and stay in your lane.

PP here and I agree with you. I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Trolls have claimed that Vance made the claim that he "had seen combat," when in reality he had not. I was providing that link to show that he never made that claim - ever - and that in fact, he's very open about what his assignments were. I agree that he was in harm's way merely by being in the military. IOW, he never claimed to be anything he was not, unlike what the trolls would have everyone believe.

JD Vance was a public affairs REMF. He mostly did desk duty and the occasional photo op.

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Anonymous wrote:What in the H will Melania and Usha Vance talk about?

Doubtful that whatever they discuss will be in English.

What other common language do they speak?
Or do you think that there are only two languages in the world: English and "whatever everyone else speaks"?

They are both foreigners who can barely speak English.

Melania speaks English more than well enough to chat and I'm sure that a woman who graduated from Yale is fluent in English. Most foreigners do speak some English, in addition to another language or two, btw.

For the millionth time, Usha Vance was born in the United States. She is an American. And Melania Trump is now an American too. Why do you persist in calling them "foreigners"?

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Anonymous wrote:Russ Douhat had a very revealing interview with Vance in The NY Times. Whatever your politics, it’s hard to argue that Biden, Harris, or Trump are nearly as smart or insightful as Vance, who offers nuanced, well formed answers to every question posed:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/13/opinion/jd-vance-interview.html

This guy seems like an actual intellectual, not a lightweight peddling cliches and poll tested talking points, which is refreshing.

Talk is cheap. He would force his own wife or daughter to bear her rapist's baby. So intellectual! Such nuance! So insightful and well formed!

I like it when he says it is “inconvenient” when a woman becomes pregnant from rape.

Once again:

Vance is opposed to abortion; on the website for his 2022 campaign for the Senate, he declared himself “100 percent pro-life” and called for “eliminating abortion.” However, he said on CNN in December 2023: “We have to accept that people do not want blanket abortion bans. They just don’t. And I say that as a person who wants to protect as many unborn babies as possible. We have to provide exceptions for life of the mother, for rape, and so forth.”
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/10/politics/fact-check-biden-campaign-j-d-vance-heritage-foundation/index.html

He has an anti abortion agenda like trump and the rest of the GOP. That is the GOP now. A losing stance but that is their stance.

+1 And not just anti-abortion, but anti birth control, too.

DP. What are you babbling about? That's just complete bull$hit. From the GOP 2024 platform:

We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments).

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform

What are you babbling about? That was roe more or less and they blew that up. They are entirely full of crap.

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Anonymous wrote:He sets off my gaydar, sorry. And his mentor is a gay billionaire man. Probably another Republican closet case Ivy Leaguer who prefers men. An epidemic dating back to at least the 80s with the congressional page scandal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_congressional_page_sex_scandal

Why would that matter?

Exactly. Imagine someone sounding off like that about a Democrat. They would be lambasted as homophobic. But I guess it's ok to speculate since he's a Republican - just as they did with Tim Scott. Idiot hypocrites.

You guys currently have a conspiracy theory (that's pretty mainstream within your party, no?) that Obama and his private chef were gay lovers.

Wait? They weren't?

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Anonymous wrote:What in the H will Melania and Usha Vance talk about?

Doubtful that whatever they discuss will be in English.

What other common language do they speak?
Or do you think that there are only two languages in the world: English and "whatever everyone else speaks"?

They are both foreigners who can barely speak English.

Melania speaks English more than well enough to chat and I'm sure that a woman who graduated from Yale is fluent in English. Most foreigners do speak some English, in addition to another language or two, btw.

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Anonymous wrote:What in the H will Melania and Usha Vance talk about?

Doubtful that whatever they discuss will be in English.

What other common language do they speak?
Or do you think that there are only two languages in the world: English and "whatever everyone else speaks"?

They are both foreigners who can barely speak English.

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Anonymous wrote:He sets off my gaydar, sorry. And his mentor is a gay billionaire man. Probably another Republican closet case Ivy Leaguer who prefers men. An epidemic dating back to at least the 80s with the congressional page scandal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_congressional_page_sex_scandal

Why would that matter?

Exactly. Imagine someone sounding off like that about a Democrat. They would be lambasted as homophobic. But I guess it's ok to speculate since he's a Republican - just as they did with Tim Scott. Idiot hypocrites.

You guys currently have a conspiracy theory (that's pretty mainstream within your party, no?) that Obama and his private chef were gay lovers.

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Anonymous wrote:What in the H will Melania and Usha Vance talk about?

Doubtful that whatever they discuss will be in English.