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I’m so sick and tired of Asians complaining about unfairness in America. When I look around my UMC neighborhood, Asians seem to be doing quite well. I wonder how well American students would fare in Asian schools or American workers in Asian corporations. Something tells me that it would be FAR worse for Americans in Asia than it is for Asians in America.

Americans are treated very well in Asians countries.

Maybe things have changed over the years. I distinctly remember when Yu Ying sent a group of students to China as part of its curriculum, a little Black boy was openly teased by Chinese women demanding that he(the little Black boy) show his tail. Maybe your definition of “very well” differs from most people which witnessed that exchange. It was disgusting to say the very least. Or maybe you just mean white people are treated very well in Asian countries. Which says a lot about you PP.

Black Americans would feel very safe pretty much anywhere in the countries like Korea/Japan, and even in China.

Can you say the same thing for an Asian in the US?

Interesting article.

https://unbiasthenews.org/heard-but-not-seen-being-black-in-south-korea/#:~:text=The%20discrimination%20that%20Black%20people,is%20associated%20with%20unattractive%20qualities.

“Koreans are a non-white people who believe in white supremacy”

The discrimination that Black people experience in South Korea is exacerbated by a hierarchy based on centuries-old colorism, where milky white skin is valorized and darker skin is associated with unattractive qualities.

Yeah, but they think whites don't know their dirty little secrets.

Hines Ward, half black/half korean, received a hero's welcome in Korea. There are some half black/half korean entertainers in Korea who are quite popular.

Yes, the old Korea was very racist against blacks, but the younger generation aren't, just like white people.

Hines Ward and his mother had to flee Korea due to lack of acceptance. You left that part out. But how magnanimous that they accepted him after he found success, something that never would have happened if he stayed.

I think you did not read the bolded. I didn't leave anything out. There is more acceptance of half black half koreans in Korea today. How do I know.. I'm Korean American.

Oh. Today. But not when Ward was born. And you know that which is why you keep choosing your words carefully.

yes, we are talking about today.

Today, Harvard and the like are discriminating based on race. Today, younger Korean Americans are more accepting of black people.

Regardless of how Koreans, old or young, treat black people, it doesn't mean Harvard can discriminate against Asian Americans.

As the saying goes: "two wrongs don't make a right".

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I’m so sick and tired of Asians complaining about unfairness in America. When I look around my UMC neighborhood, Asians seem to be doing quite well. I wonder how well American students would fare in Asian schools or American workers in Asian corporations. Something tells me that it would be FAR worse for Americans in Asia than it is for Asians in America.

Americans are treated very well in Asians countries.

I’m a white American and experienced overt racism in Asia.

White Americans are usually treated very well in Asian countries.
Maybe you didn't respect the local culture or something.

Asian countries like Korea/Japan/China tend to discriminate South East Asians.

I’m the person you were asking if I respected the culture. Very much so as learning the culture was the reason I went on the trip. In one instance, we merely went into a restaurant and were told it was “not for people like us” and we had to leave.

Discrimination in South Korea/Japan/India/wherever else in the world has no relevance here at all. The issue being discussed is about Americans being discriminated in America.

Agreed but the quote in in response to a poster claiming that Americans would not be discriminated against in Asia. It’s responsive to the post but the whole line of discussion is irrelevant to the issue (like so much on DCUM).

It is kinda relevant. Though American treatment abroad doesn’t have anything to do with how American laws treat people in America, it does raise a cultural issue. Namely, immigrants to America expect to be treated better here than anywhere else in the world. Sometimes, this includes how they would be treated in their own country. As a point of personal reflection, it’s healthy for such people to consider the entitlement of their request. Literally, they are asking for their new country to treat them better than their country would treat them or their country would treat Americans. Pretty incredible when you think about it.

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I’m so sick and tired of Asians complaining about unfairness in America. When I look around my UMC neighborhood, Asians seem to be doing quite well. I wonder how well American students would fare in Asian schools or American workers in Asian corporations. Something tells me that it would be FAR worse for Americans in Asia than it is for Asians in America.

Americans are treated very well in Asians countries.

I’m a white American and experienced overt racism in Asia.

White Americans are usually treated very well in Asian countries.
Maybe you didn't respect the local culture or something.

Asian countries like Korea/Japan/China tend to discriminate South East Asians.

Is it “respecting the local culture” to whine when not accepted to colleges?

We should all respect the decision by the US Supreme Court at least if you are a citizen of the US.

DP. Regardless of the decision, I will never respect this bootleg, compromised, lying, corrupt, perjured-filled Roberts’ court. I pray I live long enough to see a SCOTUS that can be respected again. It’s not this court.

Some people here say that if you don't like the system here, leave?

Well unlike most people here, my family has roots in this country since the revolutionary war and ancestors who died in every war including Vietnam, and served in every war up to desert storm. Therefore I would tell those people to Fucck off.

Your ancestors stole the land from the American Indians.

My ancestors are a mixture of American Indians, African slaves and white slave-owners. What’s your point?

Impressive. Or do you mean 96% white, 2% Native American and 2% Black?

That’s your DNA, not mine. Stop projecting.

Whatever DNA you have, it doesn't make you a high lever citizen.

Whoosh, if you are the person telling people to leave the country if they do not give deference and respect to a corrupt, lying, SCOTUS. If you are not that person, STFU this side conversation does not concern you.

Are you the Asian hating racist?

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I’m so sick and tired of Asians complaining about unfairness in America. When I look around my UMC neighborhood, Asians seem to be doing quite well. I wonder how well American students would fare in Asian schools or American workers in Asian corporations. Something tells me that it would be FAR worse for Americans in Asia than it is for Asians in America.

Americans are treated very well in Asians countries.

Maybe things have changed over the years. I distinctly remember when Yu Ying sent a group of students to China as part of its curriculum, a little Black boy was openly teased by Chinese women demanding that he(the little Black boy) show his tail. Maybe your definition of “very well” differs from most people which witnessed that exchange. It was disgusting to say the very least. Or maybe you just mean white people are treated very well in Asian countries. Which says a lot about you PP.

Black Americans would feel very safe pretty much anywhere in the countries like Korea/Japan, and even in China.

Can you say the same thing for an Asian in the US?

Interesting article.

https://unbiasthenews.org/heard-but-not-seen-being-black-in-south-korea/#:~:text=The%20discrimination%20that%20Black%20people,is%20associated%20with%20unattractive%20qualities.

“Koreans are a non-white people who believe in white supremacy”

The discrimination that Black people experience in South Korea is exacerbated by a hierarchy based on centuries-old colorism, where milky white skin is valorized and darker skin is associated with unattractive qualities.

Yeah, but they think whites don't know their dirty little secrets.

Hines Ward, half black/half korean, received a hero's welcome in Korea. There are some half black/half korean entertainers in Korea who are quite popular.

Yes, the old Korea was very racist against blacks, but the younger generation aren't, just like white people.

Hines Ward and his mother had to flee Korea due to lack of acceptance. You left that part out. But how magnanimous that they accepted him after he found success, something that never would have happened if he stayed.

I think you did not read the bolded. I didn't leave anything out. There is more acceptance of half black half koreans in Korea today. How do I know.. I'm Korean American.

Oh. Today. But not when Ward was born. And you know that which is why you keep choosing your words carefully.

yes, we are talking about today.

Today, Harvard and the like are discriminating based on race. Today, younger Korean Americans are more accepting of black people.

Regardless of how Koreans, old or young, treat black people, it doesn't mean Harvard can discriminate against Asian Americans.

As the saying goes: "two wrongs don't make a right".

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it that when immigrants come to America they expect the red carpet whereas everywhere else in the world they’re treated like crap and they accept it? Have these people who take a test and expect admissions to Harvard ever considered what they have given to America or Harvard? It’s unbelievable the entitlement they feel for having scored well on a test.

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I’m so sick and tired of Asians complaining about unfairness in America. When I look around my UMC neighborhood, Asians seem to be doing quite well. I wonder how well American students would fare in Asian schools or American workers in Asian corporations. Something tells me that it would be FAR worse for Americans in Asia than it is for Asians in America.

Americans are treated very well in Asians countries.

I’m a white American and experienced overt racism in Asia.

White Americans are usually treated very well in Asian countries.
Maybe you didn't respect the local culture or something.

Asian countries like Korea/Japan/China tend to discriminate South East Asians.

Is it “respecting the local culture” to whine when not accepted to colleges?

We should all respect the decision by the US Supreme Court at least if you are a citizen of the US.

DP. Regardless of the decision, I will never respect this bootleg, compromised, lying, corrupt, perjured-filled Roberts’ court. I pray I live long enough to see a SCOTUS that can be respected again. It’s not this court.

Some people here say that if you don't like the system here, leave?

Well unlike most people here, my family has roots in this country since the revolutionary war and ancestors who died in every war including Vietnam, and served in every war up to desert storm. Therefore I would tell those people to Fucck off.

Your ancestors stole the land from the American Indians.

My ancestors are a mixture of American Indians, African slaves and white slave-owners. What’s your point?

Impressive. Or do you mean 96% white, 2% Native American and 2% Black?

That’s your DNA, not mine. Stop projecting.

Whatever DNA you have, it doesn't make you a high lever citizen.

Whoosh, if you are the person telling people to leave the country if they do not give deference and respect to a corrupt, lying, SCOTUS. If you are not that person, STFU this side conversation does not concern you.

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I’m so sick and tired of Asians complaining about unfairness in America. When I look around my UMC neighborhood, Asians seem to be doing quite well. I wonder how well American students would fare in Asian schools or American workers in Asian corporations. Something tells me that it would be FAR worse for Americans in Asia than it is for Asians in America.

Americans are treated very well in Asians countries.

I’m a white American and experienced overt racism in Asia.

White Americans are usually treated very well in Asian countries.
Maybe you didn't respect the local culture or something.

Asian countries like Korea/Japan/China tend to discriminate South East Asians.

Is it “respecting the local culture” to whine when not accepted to colleges?

We should all respect the decision by the US Supreme Court at least if you are a citizen of the US.

DP. Regardless of the decision, I will never respect this bootleg, compromised, lying, corrupt, perjured-filled Roberts’ court. I pray I live long enough to see a SCOTUS that can be respected again. It’s not this court.

Some people here say that if you don't like the system here, leave?

Well unlike most people here, my family has roots in this country since the revolutionary war and ancestors who died in every war including Vietnam, and served in every war up to desert storm. Therefore I would tell those people to Fucck off.

Your ancestors stole the land from the American Indians.

My ancestors are a mixture of American Indians, African slaves and white slave-owners. What’s your point?

Impressive. Or do you mean 96% white, 2% Native American and 2% Black?

That’s your DNA, not mine. Stop projecting.

Whatever DNA you have, it doesn't make you a high lever citizen.

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I’m so sick and tired of Asians complaining about unfairness in America. When I look around my UMC neighborhood, Asians seem to be doing quite well. I wonder how well American students would fare in Asian schools or American workers in Asian corporations. Something tells me that it would be FAR worse for Americans in Asia than it is for Asians in America.

Americans are treated very well in Asians countries.

Maybe things have changed over the years. I distinctly remember when Yu Ying sent a group of students to China as part of its curriculum, a little Black boy was openly teased by Chinese women demanding that he(the little Black boy) show his tail. Maybe your definition of “very well” differs from most people which witnessed that exchange. It was disgusting to say the very least. Or maybe you just mean white people are treated very well in Asian countries. Which says a lot about you PP.

Black Americans would feel very safe pretty much anywhere in the countries like Korea/Japan, and even in China.

Can you say the same thing for an Asian in the US?

Interesting article.

https://unbiasthenews.org/heard-but-not-seen-being-black-in-south-korea/#:~:text=The%20discrimination%20that%20Black%20people,is%20associated%20with%20unattractive%20qualities.

“Koreans are a non-white people who believe in white supremacy”

The discrimination that Black people experience in South Korea is exacerbated by a hierarchy based on centuries-old colorism, where milky white skin is valorized and darker skin is associated with unattractive qualities.

Yeah, but they think whites don't know their dirty little secrets.

Hines Ward, half black/half korean, received a hero's welcome in Korea. There are some half black/half korean entertainers in Korea who are quite popular.

Yes, the old Korea was very racist against blacks, but the younger generation aren't, just like white people.

Hines Ward and his mother had to flee Korea due to lack of acceptance. You left that part out. But how magnanimous that they accepted him after he found success, something that never would have happened if he stayed.

US just had Civil Rights Act in 1964.
Hines was born in 1976
Doesn't seem that much advanced

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Looks very much like racial discrimination against Asian students.

We'll see the outcome from the US Supreme Court.

If I was part of admissions committee and received the aggregate feedback of 2 LORs and guidance counselor ( from kid's own school!) and alumni interviewer about a given applicant, I'm not surprised that the personality score was low.

As the lower courts have ruled, this doesn't prove discrimination.

And...what in the heck does this have to do with affirmative action? Whites are being compared to Asians in the chart, not URMs.

?? why? Asian students are on par on LORs and have higher score on interview.

They were being nice, so only compared it to Whites.
Imagine comparing it to Blacks/Hispanics

The lower scores came from the applicant's own teachers and guidance counselor!

The alumni interviewer's score was low.

THREE relatively low scores from three different sources.

The admissions committee reviews thousands of applications: they are not going to meet most applications in person. Their scoring is based on the data received.

No discrimination.

Weak "evidence" and probably cherry picked.

You seem to have trouble reading data:



Alumni interviewer = much higher than white
Teacher rec1 = a bit higher than white
Teacher rec2 = a bit higher than white
Personal interviewer = a bit higher than white
Guidance counselor = a bit lower than white

AO = much lower than white


There is clearly racial discrimination going on.
WTF are you going on about?

DP. This looks the profile of a grade grubber. High scores and boxes checked, but makes no extraordinary impression on people who deal with them day by day. Alumni interview is puff. We all know that, here we see it quantified. This is cherry picking.

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I’m so sick and tired of Asians complaining about unfairness in America. When I look around my UMC neighborhood, Asians seem to be doing quite well. I wonder how well American students would fare in Asian schools or American workers in Asian corporations. Something tells me that it would be FAR worse for Americans in Asia than it is for Asians in America.

Americans are treated very well in Asians countries.

Maybe things have changed over the years. I distinctly remember when Yu Ying sent a group of students to China as part of its curriculum, a little Black boy was openly teased by Chinese women demanding that he(the little Black boy) show his tail. Maybe your definition of “very well” differs from most people which witnessed that exchange. It was disgusting to say the very least. Or maybe you just mean white people are treated very well in Asian countries. Which says a lot about you PP.

Black Americans would feel very safe pretty much anywhere in the countries like Korea/Japan, and even in China.

Can you say the same thing for an Asian in the US?

Interesting article.

https://unbiasthenews.org/heard-but-not-seen-being-black-in-south-korea/#:~:text=The%20discrimination%20that%20Black%20people,is%20associated%20with%20unattractive%20qualities.

“Koreans are a non-white people who believe in white supremacy”

The discrimination that Black people experience in South Korea is exacerbated by a hierarchy based on centuries-old colorism, where milky white skin is valorized and darker skin is associated with unattractive qualities.

Yeah, but they think whites don't know their dirty little secrets.

Hines Ward, half black/half korean, received a hero's welcome in Korea. There are some half black/half korean entertainers in Korea who are quite popular.

Yes, the old Korea was very racist against blacks, but the younger generation aren't, just like white people.

Hines Ward and his mother had to flee Korea due to lack of acceptance. You left that part out. But how magnanimous that they accepted him after he found success, something that never would have happened if he stayed.

I think you did not read the bolded. I didn't leave anything out. There is more acceptance of half black half koreans in Korea today. How do I know.. I'm Korean American.

Oh. Today. But not when Ward was born. And you know that which is why you keep choosing your words carefully.

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I’m so sick and tired of Asians complaining about unfairness in America. When I look around my UMC neighborhood, Asians seem to be doing quite well. I wonder how well American students would fare in Asian schools or American workers in Asian corporations. Something tells me that it would be FAR worse for Americans in Asia than it is for Asians in America.

Americans are treated very well in Asians countries.

I’m a white American and experienced overt racism in Asia.

White Americans are usually treated very well in Asian countries.
Maybe you didn't respect the local culture or something.

Asian countries like Korea/Japan/China tend to discriminate South East Asians.

I’m the person you were asking if I respected the culture. Very much so as learning the culture was the reason I went on the trip. In one instance, we merely went into a restaurant and were told it was “not for people like us” and we had to leave.

Discrimination in South Korea/Japan/India/wherever else in the world has no relevance here at all. The issue being discussed is about Americans being discriminated in America.

Agreed but the quote in in response to a poster claiming that Americans would not be discriminated against in Asia. It’s responsive to the post but the whole line of discussion is irrelevant to the issue (like so much on DCUM).

It is kinda relevant. Though American treatment abroad doesn’t have anything to do with how American laws treat people in America, it does raise a cultural issue. Namely, immigrants to America expect to be treated better here than anywhere else in the world. Sometimes, this includes how they would be treated in their own country. As a point of personal reflection, it’s healthy for such people to consider the entitlement of their request. Literally, they are asking for their new country to treat them better than their country would treat them or their country would treat Americans. Pretty incredible when you think about it.

Admitted I have not read through all the pages of comments here but these two seem pretty obnoxious. Many Asians are second and third (or more) generation and their parents/grandparents have contributed quite a bit to the success of the US economy. Why shouldn’t they expect good treatment then from their country?

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I’m so sick and tired of Asians complaining about unfairness in America. When I look around my UMC neighborhood, Asians seem to be doing quite well. I wonder how well American students would fare in Asian schools or American workers in Asian corporations. Something tells me that it would be FAR worse for Americans in Asia than it is for Asians in America.

Americans are treated very well in Asians countries.

I’m a white American and experienced overt racism in Asia.

White Americans are usually treated very well in Asian countries.
Maybe you didn't respect the local culture or something.

Asian countries like Korea/Japan/China tend to discriminate South East Asians.

I’m the person you were asking if I respected the culture. Very much so as learning the culture was the reason I went on the trip. In one instance, we merely went into a restaurant and were told it was “not for people like us” and we had to leave.

Discrimination in South Korea/Japan/India/wherever else in the world has no relevance here at all. The issue being discussed is about Americans being discriminated in America.

Agreed but the quote in in response to a poster claiming that Americans would not be discriminated against in Asia. It’s responsive to the post but the whole line of discussion is irrelevant to the issue (like so much on DCUM).

It is kinda relevant. Though American treatment abroad doesn’t have anything to do with how American laws treat people in America, it does raise a cultural issue. Namely, immigrants to America expect to be treated better here than anywhere else in the world. Sometimes, this includes how they would be treated in their own country. As a point of personal reflection, it’s healthy for such people to consider the entitlement of their request. Literally, they are asking for their new country to treat them better than their country would treat them or their country would treat Americans. Pretty incredible when you think about it.