Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What I don’t understand is why we even need mandates. You can look at the vaccine data, and see that it’s very effective. Why dig in your heels and wait for the government to tell you to get vaccinated, or wear a mask? What happened to common sense? Self-preservation? Caring about the common good?
It has been a requirement to attend school that you are vaccinated. This has been the case for decades. You people are such morons. Required vaccinations are nothing new.
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I’m extremely healthy, why do I need a vaccine for something that can’t harm me? If the vaccine stopped transmission I would consider it but it doesn’t do that so it’s a waste of time.
To all the people that smoke and eat refined carbohydrates, unhealthy fats, and other garbage foods while doing zero exercise, what happened to common sense? Self-preservation? Caring about the common good? No need to answer — you people are just morons. Fat or have diabetes because of your personal choices? You’re a moron. High blood pressure because of your disgusting diet? You’re a moron.
You are an antisocial bully.
Nah I’m a very social person. Lots of friends, beautiful family, and all is gravy, much to your dismay I’m sure. I was being sarcastic calling fat people or people who eat poorly or smoke morons — I don’t actually see them that way personally. Actually, when I look at fat people and smokers etc, I try and be compassionate — I don’t know what they’ve been through in life, their situation, so I don’t judge them for being fat or addicted to cigarettes. You shouldn’t judge people for their personal health choices either. Everyone has the right to eat like garbage and get as fat as they want or smoke cigarettes, just like everyone has the right to decide whether they feel a medication would be worthwhile given their situation. It’s called freedom of choice, my body my choice, whatever you want to call it. Very basic tenant of American life.
Either way this debate is dumb. Just like it always has in America, freedom of choice is prevailing. Deal with it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What I don’t understand is why we even need mandates. You can look at the vaccine data, and see that it’s very effective. Why dig in your heels and wait for the government to tell you to get vaccinated, or wear a mask? What happened to common sense? Self-preservation? Caring about the common good?
It has been a requirement to attend school that you are vaccinated. This has been the case for decades. You people are such morons. Required vaccinations are nothing new.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the authority of the government must be unquestionable. Otherwise we have anarchy. And I don’t want anarchy. If the government tells you to do something, you DO it
This is completely insane. Next time you post how you want democracy, think again. You are the most delusional, Putin-loving pp here. No doubt you think yourself some kind of liberal democrat?
How many of you are there? Are Trumpers right? Are they a lesser threat to democracy than this type of liberal?
Unhinged, just unhinged.
DP. That is how it works, though. It's called Law and Order. And if you don't believe you should follow it, then you take them to court and state your case. But until then, you follow the law.
Anonymous wrote:Actually, the conscientious objector has an array of political options, like delaying compliance to the extent possible, increasing visibility through peaceful protests, and swaying possible allies to advocate and intervene on your behalf with persuasive arguments.
- vaccinated person who is against mandates
Anonymous wrote:
This has moved past whatever silly arguments people want to make about whether the vaccine/masks/measures is 99% effective or only 90%. That’s irrelevant. This has evolved into a challenge to the authority of government. And the authority of the government must be unquestionable. Otherwise we have anarchy. And I don’t want anarchy. If the government tells you to do something, you DO it. It’s not about your feelz, your freedumbs, whatever. It’s about all of us understanding that the government is in charge. Period.
Anonymous wrote:And the authority of the government must be unquestionable. Otherwise we have anarchy. And I don’t want anarchy. If the government tells you to do something, you DO it
This is completely insane. Next time you post how you want democracy, think again. You are the most delusional, Putin-loving pp here. No doubt you think yourself some kind of liberal democrat?
How many of you are there? Are Trumpers right? Are they a lesser threat to democracy than this type of liberal?
Unhinged, just unhinged.
Anonymous wrote:And the authority of the government must be unquestionable. Otherwise we have anarchy. And I don’t want anarchy. If the government tells you to do something, you DO it
This is completely insane. Next time you post how you want democracy, think again. You are the most delusional, Putin-loving pp here. No doubt you think yourself some kind of liberal democrat?
How many of you are there? Are Trumpers right? Are they a lesser threat to democracy than this type of liberal?
Unhinged, just unhinged.
Anonymous wrote:If 90% of people are voluntarily vaccinated, the vaccines don't prevent transmission, the mortality rate is low, why is the government so set on a need for a mandate?
You HAVE to force 100% compliance through coercive threats to people's livelihoods and restrict freedom of movement for citizens? Some people have died from vaccine injuries. Why can't we allow some people to opt out?
There are a number of people who have low trust for the government, low trust for big pharma, and there are lots of current and past examples that demonstrate why.
"Ms. Spit is now among hundreds in the U.K. and elsewhere applying for government compensation for suspected injury caused by Covid-19 vaccines. She is part of a very small, little-discussed community of pandemic victims: those who have suffered—or had family or loved ones suffer—from rare but serious vaccine side effects recognized by doctors, regulators and researchers. They say they feel lost in wider Covid-19 statistics, which have shown vaccines to be extremely safe and effective for most of the population."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-vaccines-were-deadly-in-rare-cases-governments-are-now-weighing-compensation-11645266603
The performance of vaccines and boosters, particularly in younger adults, is among the most glaring omissions in data the C.D.C. has made public."
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/health/covid-cdc-data.amp.html
In 2009 Pfizer had to pay $2.3 billion, to resolve the largest health care fraud settlement in the history of the Department of Justice, to resolve criminal and civil liability arising from the illegal promotion of certain pharmaceutical products.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history
On May 16, 1997, President Bill Clinton issued a formal Presidential Apology for the Tuskegee study. The quotes from this deserve their own post
https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm
"The Deans of twelve of the most eminent American schools of public health sent a letter to President Barack Obama vigorously protesting the precedent that was set when the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) used the guise of a vaccination campaign to hunt for Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan."
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2013/klag-CIA-vaccination-cover-pakistan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What I don’t understand is why we even need mandates. You can look at the vaccine data, and see that it’s very effective. Why dig in your heels and wait for the government to tell you to get vaccinated, or wear a mask? What happened to common sense? Self-preservation? Caring about the common good?
It has been a requirement to attend school that you are vaccinated. This has been the case for decades. You people are such morons. Required vaccinations are nothing new.
Anonymous wrote:What I don’t understand is why we even need mandates. You can look at the vaccine data, and see that it’s very effective. Why dig in your heels and wait for the government to tell you to get vaccinated, or wear a mask? What happened to common sense? Self-preservation? Caring about the common good?