Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:46
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
My guess is the coroner has identified something already that suggests murder even though the media has reported the autopsy won't be performed until tomorrow. With that information, the police have enough information to declare his home a crime scene.
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:44
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why weren’t the police watching him???
Clearly his family is colluding at least in his escape. It was stupid to trust them.
People who kill or raise females are given every possible benefit of the doubt. I am SO over it!
He left his parents place (supposedly) on September 1st. They kept stalling her parents until they filed a missing persons report on September 11th.
The police couldn't 'watch' him if they didn't know a crime had been committed.
Lastly had the parents trusted their guts and filed earlier - they might have located and detained him on the 3rd or 4th before he disappeared or crossed the border.
Are you telling me you can’t conduct surveillance from a public vantage point, of the last person to see a missing person alive? Doubt it.
Especially given the extremely suspicious timing of the reporting, and his behavior.
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:40
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Why weren’t the police watching him???
Clearly his family is colluding at least in his escape. It was stupid to trust them.
People who kill or raise females are given every possible benefit of the doubt. I am SO over it!
*should read “rape” not raise
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:38
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:This guy is 23 years old and on the run...how far can he really go? He doesn't seem smart or mature enough to be on his own and running from the police. I hope his parents get what is coming to them.
I think he is definitely found soon - just don't know whether dead or alive.
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:37
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:This guy is 23 years old and on the run...how far can he really go? He doesn't seem smart or mature enough to be on his own and running from the police. I hope his parents get what is coming to them.
What do you mean? This is the best time to run respectively. He’s in the best physical shape of his life, he could take sketchy physical labor jobs to stay off the grid, he has no ties to a specific community, his parents most likely gave him money, he had a headstart of 13 days post-crime to plan and run, hes experienced with living in rough terrain and his DNA isn’t in the system.
The only thing better would be military/sniper training.
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:34
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:I'm just here to watch the thread shift from adamantly defending the obvious murderer because he's a white guy and white guys deserve infinite benefit of the doubt and deference to adamantly defending the incompetent cops because they're white guys who deserve infinite benefit of the doubt and deference.
Soon enough we'll be on to BL's dad - poor guy. His stupid wife must've made him help his son cover up a murder, right internet?
Yes, a sad +1000. At least the sexist morons are consistent (I guess that what happens when you subscribe to a total and hierarchical worldview!). You can predict what BS they are going to spout from a mile off.
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:28
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
This guy is 23 years old and on the run...how far can he really go? He doesn't seem smart or mature enough to be on his own and running from the police. I hope his parents get what is coming to them.
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:25
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Why weren’t the police watching him???
Clearly his family is colluding at least in his escape. It was stupid to trust them.
People who kill or raise females are given every possible benefit of the doubt. I am SO over it!
He left his parents place (supposedly) on September 1st. They kept stalling her parents until they filed a missing persons report on September 11th.
The police couldn't 'watch' him if they didn't know a crime had been committed.
Lastly had the parents trusted their guts and filed earlier - they might have located and detained him on the 3rd or 4th before he disappeared or crossed the border.
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:22
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:For those defending the police officers. They are not very observant if they did not notice that Brian established himself as a liar when he said he did not have a cell phone but Gabby did, which was in the van, and then shortly afterwards pulled his cell phone out of his back pocket.
ok so he was a liar. What grounds did they have to keep him or hold him? If she was unwilling to tell them what was going on, ask for help or leave him there was only so much they could have done. She was always going to go back to him.
Not blaming her, but the only person to blame for her death is brian laundrie and the choices he made. The cops did they best they could with what they knew at the time.
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:19
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if the parents (and other family members) have been regularly withdrawing cash from their accounts and conveniently left wads of it laying around the house for Brian to pick up. That, plus a passport, probably means he is long gone probably to a place with difficult extradition back to US. Parents could deny they purposefully gave him money to help with his escape.
He tells them he's going for a walk in the swamp, with a backpack filled with cash & passport, and that's what they report.
He's too big of chicken to go to a country without extradition. We are talking places like Russia, China, Afghanistan, etc. He's not prepped for that.
He could easily do Brazil. His parents could have easily done a home equity loan in a day and cashed it all out. Now that the parents have been taken in, I'd bet it is for questioning about assisting him in some form or fashion.
No, he couldn’t.
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:19
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Legally allowed? Show me the law. It may be their policy or how they do things, but I seriously doubt there is a law.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I watched the police body cam footage & think the police ultimately made many mistakes.
While they were very friendly and attempted to stay fair to both sides - the fact that they put up Brian in a hotel room while allowing Gabby to leave alone, uncomfortably driving the van to an unknown destination is outrageous.
I get that the officer stressed in the video that they, the authorities could not treat either party differently due to gender but c’mon…..gender definitely matters when sending a Female off alone in a van to fend for herself while driving a Male to a hotel and assuring he arrives safe and will be taken care of.
A girl has a much better chance at possibly attracting predators vs. a guy.
So yes gender matters in this case.
She deserved a hotel room while Brian should have had the option to just take the van.
Bad judgement of the officers IMO.
Also labeling her the “Aggressor” and him the “Victim” was preposterous at best.
Even then w/out the knowledge we have now.
Anyone speaking to them could see that she was continuously crying while he was chatting cheerfully w/the cops.
It was apparent that she was scared while to him, none of what was happening was even a big deal.
We have been over this SO. MANY. TIMES. She admitted to slapping/scratching him, so technically she was the abuser in the situation. They're not legally allowed to put the abuser up in a hotel room.
According to the body cam footage, they had to be separated bc the police were opting to give her a citation instead of arresting her. One of them had to stay elsewhere, since they were living together in the van. Laundrie said they had no money for a hotel. The police referenced an agency called "CK," which apparently puts up victims of domestic violence or pays for their hotel rooms. They didn't call it in for her bc they had determined that she was the abuser/aggressor in the situation, based on his statements, her statements, and witness statements. In hindsight, she may have been better off had they arrested her.
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:18
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Why weren’t the police watching him???
Clearly his family is colluding at least in his escape. It was stupid to trust them.
People who kill or raise females are given every possible benefit of the doubt. I am SO over it!
Clearly his family is colluding at least in his escape. It was stupid to trust them.
People who kill or raise females are given every possible benefit of the doubt. I am SO over it!
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:17
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
I hope he escapes to the Amazon basin where he'll take a swim in the Amazon River.
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:14
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
For those defending the police officers. They are not very observant if they did not notice that Brian established himself as a liar when he said he did not have a cell phone but Gabby did, which was in the van, and then shortly afterwards pulled his cell phone out of his back pocket.
Anonymous
09/20/2021 11:11
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if the parents (and other family members) have been regularly withdrawing cash from their accounts and conveniently left wads of it laying around the house for Brian to pick up. That, plus a passport, probably means he is long gone probably to a place with difficult extradition back to US. Parents could deny they purposefully gave him money to help with his escape.
He tells them he's going for a walk in the swamp, with a backpack filled with cash & passport, and that's what they report.
He's too big of chicken to go to a country without extradition. We are talking places like Russia, China, Afghanistan, etc. He's not prepped for that.
He could easily do Brazil. His parents could have easily done a home equity loan in a day and cashed it all out. Now that the parents have been taken in, I'd bet it is for questioning about assisting him in some form or fashion.
I mean unless he slipped in and disappeared to a life in the middle of nowhere of South America. I doubt it - the kid doesn't strike me as one who knows even un poquito de Espanol and it would take him years to learn.
Aside from that I hope they were taken in and charged as accessories to murder after the fact.