Anonymous wrote:Last post: the precious birds are up in the trees, far from that little dog. If they had the sense to fly thousands of miles I bet they had the sense to avoid a small dog.

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Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

I think she was approaching him to ask him to stop videoing her. Is this just a thing now, we can all video each other all the time?

If he didn't video the situation, he may be in jail right now. That's what happens when a white woman says that she is being threatened by a black man.

He did threaten to poison her dog (or implied as much), by his own admission. Probably shocked that a “Karen” would go nuclear on him, but it was just a little bit misogynist to provoke someone like that and not expect a response, in New York of all places. I strongly doubt Cooper would have challenged a fellow black man with a bully breed in the same way.

No, he didn't.

STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM.

So many nasty racists on this site. It's disgusting.

DP. I don't think that he did, if so I missed it. But he did threaten her. And he is hardly a victim. He hasn't lost his job, his dog, received death threats, and possibly charged with a hate crime or criminal charges.

He said, on his own social media, that he was going to “do something she wouldn’t like” and then brought out something he kept for such “intransigence”.
The implication being that he was going to poison her dog or otherwise lure it away (to do harm).

Then she should keep her dog on leash so nobody gives or threatens to give any treats, poisoned or not. She could have so easily avoided all this and we could be over in other threads talking about whether or not our children's sports careers are ruined forever by the shutdown. Amy is like the butterfly who flapped its wings. I bet she is wishing so hard that she had clipped poor Henry's leash on or that she stayed out of the Ramble altogether and nobody would have to wonder about whether birdwatchers carry poisoned dog treats.

Yes, she probably is. And Chris Cooper would kinda feel a bit better if maybe some people would tone down the death threats aimed at her.

All he wanted to do was scare her, not have other people scare her.

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Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

I think she was approaching him to ask him to stop videoing her. Is this just a thing now, we can all video each other all the time?

If he didn't video the situation, he may be in jail right now. That's what happens when a white woman says that she is being threatened by a black man.

He did threaten to poison her dog (or implied as much), by his own admission. Probably shocked that a “Karen” would go nuclear on him, but it was just a little bit misogynist to provoke someone like that and not expect a response, in New York of all places. I strongly doubt Cooper would have challenged a fellow black man with a bully breed in the same way.

No, he didn't.

STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM.

So many nasty racists on this site. It's disgusting.

DP. I don't think that he did, if so I missed it. But he did threaten her. And he is hardly a victim. He hasn't lost his job, his dog, received death threats, and possibly charged with a hate crime or criminal charges.

He said, on his own social media, that he was going to “do something she wouldn’t like” and then brought out something he kept for such “intransigence”.
The implication being that he was going to poison her dog or otherwise lure it away (to do harm).

Then she should keep her dog on leash so nobody gives or threatens to give any treats, poisoned or not. She could have so easily avoided all this and we could be over in other threads talking about whether or not our children's sports careers are ruined forever by the shutdown. Amy is like the butterfly who flapped its wings. I bet she is wishing so hard that she had clipped poor Henry's leash on or that she stayed out of the Ramble altogether and nobody would have to wonder about whether birdwatchers carry poisoned dog treats.

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Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

I think she was approaching him to ask him to stop videoing her. Is this just a thing now, we can all video each other all the time?

If he didn't video the situation, he may be in jail right now. That's what happens when a white woman says that she is being threatened by a black man.

He did threaten to poison her dog (or implied as much), by his own admission. Probably shocked that a “Karen” would go nuclear on him, but it was just a little bit misogynist to provoke someone like that and not expect a response, in New York of all places. I strongly doubt Cooper would have challenged a fellow black man with a bully breed in the same way.

No, he didn't.

STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM.

So many nasty racists on this site. It's disgusting.

DP. I don't think that he did, if so I missed it. But he did threaten her. And he is hardly a victim. He hasn't lost his job, his dog, received death threats, and possibly charged with a hate crime or criminal charges.

He said, on his own social media, that he was going to “do something she wouldn’t like” and then brought out something he kept for such “intransigence”.
The implication being that he was going to poison her dog or otherwise lure it away (to do harm).

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Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

I think she was approaching him to ask him to stop videoing her. Is this just a thing now, we can all video each other all the time?

If he didn't video the situation, he may be in jail right now. That's what happens when a white woman says that she is being threatened by a black man.

He did threaten to poison her dog (or implied as much), by his own admission. Probably shocked that a “Karen” would go nuclear on him, but it was just a little bit misogynist to provoke someone like that and not expect a response, in New York of all places. I strongly doubt Cooper would have challenged a fellow black man with a bully breed in the same way.

No, he didn't.

STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM.

So many nasty racists on this site. It's disgusting.

DP. I don't think that he did, if so I missed it. But he did threaten her. And he is hardly a victim. He hasn't lost his job, his dog, received death threats, and possibly charged with a hate crime or criminal charges.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. Luring someone else’s dog to you with a treat is bizarre at best and threatening at worst. What was he going to do, force her to leash the dog?

Yes. That’s exactly the point.

No, he was trying to scare her, to punish her for ignoring the leash laws. (While video recording her.)

It worked, too.

The implication was that the treat was poisoned. Anyone with a dog knows that there are sickos that do this (and it’s why I trained my dog to never take a treat unless commanded and why I keep my dog on leash).

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Anonymous wrote:DP. Luring someone else’s dog to you with a treat is bizarre at best and threatening at worst. What was he going to do, force her to leash the dog?

Yes. That’s exactly the point.

No, he was trying to scare her, to punish her for ignoring the leash laws. (While video recording her.)

It worked, too.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. Luring someone else’s dog to you with a treat is bizarre at best and threatening at worst. What was he going to do, force her to leash the dog?

Yes. That’s exactly the point.

Anonymous wrote:DP. Luring someone else’s dog to you with a treat is bizarre at best and threatening at worst. What was he going to do, force her to leash the dog?

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what she was doing with the dog? I am confused. Why is she trying to subdue it? Why is she holding him by the collar? Why doesn’t she just leash him?

I’m a lifelong dog owner, have never handled a dog this way or seen someone handling a dog this way.

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Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

I think she was approaching him to ask him to stop videoing her. Is this just a thing now, we can all video each other all the time?

If he didn't video the situation, he may be in jail right now. That's what happens when a white woman says that she is being threatened by a black man.

He did threaten to poison her dog (or implied as much), by his own admission. Probably shocked that a “Karen” would go nuclear on him, but it was just a little bit misogynist to provoke someone like that and not expect a response, in New York of all places. I strongly doubt Cooper would have challenged a fellow black man with a bully breed in the same way.

No, he didn't.

STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM.

So many nasty racists on this site. It's disgusting.

DP. I don't think that he did, if so I missed it. But he did threaten her. And he is hardly a victim. He hasn't lost his job, his dog, received death threats, and possibly charged with a hate crime or criminal charges.

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Anonymous wrote:Question - I'm assuming there would not be this amount of outrage (or any at all) if she had not called the police? Or if she hadn't referred to him as 'African American'? What if she had just said 'F U, I'll do what I want and won't leash my dog' (asshole move for sure, but things like this surely happen every day among people of all races). I'm just trying to differentiate between racist behavior and being a run of the mill asshole (I am white, but have both been the asshole and had others of all races be the asshole to me throughout my life).

This may sound ignorant but I'm trying to understand.

She knew exactly what she was doing by saying "I'm going to tell them that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN is threatening me". Then she said it again, before calling the police and claiming that he - excuse me, that an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN, was threatening her and her dog. In normal circumstances where there is conflict and someone feels strongly that they need police intervention/help, they call and explain what is happening. The operator will then ask for a description of the other party/suspect/perpetrator. By premeditating her fake distress and preempting the description, she planned to turn a very busy police department into a weapon by falsely claiming to be threatened by a *gasp* BLACK man. She was hoping that she would be seen as an innocent white woman who was being attacked in Central Park by a black man who would cause her harm. What she didn't know that she was getting was a Harvard grad who is on the Board of Directors of the Audobon Society.

When she got on the phone she began to wail about this AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN as if she were being attacked and even ended the call with a sense of urgency as if her life were in danger. This was unnecessary and racist.

White people are certainly able to experience conflict with black people and NOT be racist. She could have said "Mind your own business, jerk", "Don't give my dog treats, dork", or "F*ck off, birdman". She would have been rude, but not racist. If she truly felt threatened she could have just walked away, and certainly not aggressively approached him as shown at the start of the video.

I think she was approaching him to ask him to stop videoing her. Is this just a thing now, we can all video each other all the time?

If he didn't video the situation, he may be in jail right now. That's what happens when a white woman says that she is being threatened by a black man.

He did threaten to poison her dog (or implied as much), by his own admission. Probably shocked that a “Karen” would go nuclear on him, but it was just a little bit misogynist to provoke someone like that and not expect a response, in New York of all places. I strongly doubt Cooper would have challenged a fellow black man with a bully breed in the same way.

No, he didn't.

STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM.

So many nasty racists on this site. It's disgusting.