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Anonymous wrote:The best situation if you had a younger than the eligibility window but grade up player would be to roster them "up" on the correct grade level team for development.

Ideally your club would be aware that your kid could also play down. This way they'd have 2x the number of teams they could play with for tournamants. Also for things like Talent IDs they'd be pretty much guaranteed an invite at the lover level bevause they're playing and developing at a higher level than everyone else their age.

This is very interesting for young Aug/Sept playera.

Playing on the team that's your kids grade will need to happen for college recruiting.

It's obvious that playing up but guesting down would create tournament monsters. I never thought about all the advantages playing up could bring for things like Talent IDs. I guess this depends on if US Soccer keeps things BY. I assume they would. But even then you'd need to be playing up with your grade to be considered because you'd be competing with the younger half of the grqde above SY team.

I was told both ODP and USYNT are staying BY. So no real benefit over this year for either of those

Younger Aug/Sept players need to be able to play at the level of the Jan to July players on the SY above them.

The ones that get screwed are the Oct, Nov, Dec birthdays.

Which is how it is now. My kid was one of 4 7th graders at the October USYNT ID camp.

I think the "issue" if you want to call it that is with SY the oldest players would be Aug 1st but with USYNT if they stayed BY the oldest player would be Jan 1st. Basically the younger kids on a SY team would be the oldest on a BY USYNT team.

Im probabaly just saying things people already understand. But this would definitely be a reason for young Aug/Sept birthdays to play up on a team thats their grade in school. At least this way you'd be in the running for a Talent ID invite. If you played on grade down team its not that you wouldn't be considered I just dont think you'd be the first pick.

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Anonymous wrote:The best situation if you had a younger than the eligibility window but grade up player would be to roster them "up" on the correct grade level team for development.

Ideally your club would be aware that your kid could also play down. This way they'd have 2x the number of teams they could play with for tournamants. Also for things like Talent IDs they'd be pretty much guaranteed an invite at the lover level bevause they're playing and developing at a higher level than everyone else their age.

This is very interesting for young Aug/Sept playera.

Playing on the team that's your kids grade will need to happen for college recruiting.

It's obvious that playing up but guesting down would create tournament monsters. I never thought about all the advantages playing up could bring for things like Talent IDs. I guess this depends on if US Soccer keeps things BY. I assume they would. But even then you'd need to be playing up with your grade to be considered because you'd be competing with the younger half of the grqde above SY team.

I was told both ODP and USYNT are staying BY. So no real benefit over this year for either of those

Younger Aug/Sept players need to be able to play at the level of the Jan to July players on the SY above them.

The ones that get screwed are the Oct, Nov, Dec birthdays.

Which is how it is now. My kid was one of 4 7th graders at the October USYNT ID camp.

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Anonymous wrote:The best situation if you had a younger than the eligibility window but grade up player would be to roster them "up" on the correct grade level team for development.

Ideally your club would be aware that your kid could also play down. This way they'd have 2x the number of teams they could play with for tournamants. Also for things like Talent IDs they'd be pretty much guaranteed an invite at the lover level bevause they're playing and developing at a higher level than everyone else their age.

This is very interesting for young Aug/Sept playera.

Playing on the team that's your kids grade will need to happen for college recruiting.

It's obvious that playing up but guesting down would create tournament monsters. I never thought about all the advantages playing up could bring for things like Talent IDs. I guess this depends on if US Soccer keeps things BY. I assume they would. But even then you'd need to be playing up with your grade to be considered because you'd be competing with the younger half of the grqde above SY team.

I was told both ODP and USYNT are staying BY. So no real benefit over this year for either of those

Younger Aug/Sept players need to be able to play at the level of the Jan to July players on the SY above them.

The ones that get screwed are the Oct, Nov, Dec birthdays.

Which is how it is now. My kid was one of 4 7th graders at the October USYNT ID camp.

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Anonymous wrote:The best situation if you had a younger than the eligibility window but grade up player would be to roster them "up" on the correct grade level team for development.

Ideally your club would be aware that your kid could also play down. This way they'd have 2x the number of teams they could play with for tournamants. Also for things like Talent IDs they'd be pretty much guaranteed an invite at the lover level bevause they're playing and developing at a higher level than everyone else their age.

This is very interesting for young Aug/Sept playera.

Playing on the team that's your kids grade will need to happen for college recruiting.

It's obvious that playing up but guesting down would create tournament monsters. I never thought about all the advantages playing up could bring for things like Talent IDs. I guess this depends on if US Soccer keeps things BY. I assume they would. But even then you'd need to be playing up with your grade to be considered because you'd be competing with the younger half of the grqde above SY team.

I was told both ODP and USYNT are staying BY. So no real benefit over this year for either of those

Younger Aug/Sept players need to be able to play at the level of the Jan to July players on the SY above them.

The ones that get screwed are the Oct, Nov, Dec birthdays.

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Anonymous wrote:The best situation if you had a younger than the eligibility window but grade up player would be to roster them "up" on the correct grade level team for development.

Ideally your club would be aware that your kid could also play down. This way they'd have 2x the number of teams they could play with for tournamants. Also for things like Talent IDs they'd be pretty much guaranteed an invite at the lover level bevause they're playing and developing at a higher level than everyone else their age.

This is very interesting for young Aug/Sept playera.

Playing on the team that's your kids grade will need to happen for college recruiting.

It's obvious that playing up but guesting down would create tournament monsters. I never thought about all the advantages playing up could bring for things like Talent IDs. I guess this depends on if US Soccer keeps things BY. I assume they would. But even then you'd need to be playing up with your grade to be considered because you'd be competing with the younger half of the grqde above SY team.

I was told both ODP and USYNT are staying BY. So no real benefit over this year for either of those

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Anonymous wrote:The best situation if you had a younger than the eligibility window but grade up player would be to roster them "up" on the correct grade level team for development.

Ideally your club would be aware that your kid could also play down. This way they'd have 2x the number of teams they could play with for tournamants. Also for things like Talent IDs they'd be pretty much guaranteed an invite at the lover level bevause they're playing and developing at a higher level than everyone else their age.

This is very interesting for young Aug/Sept playera.

Playing on the team that's your kids grade will need to happen for college recruiting.

It's obvious that playing up but guesting down would create tournament monsters. I never thought about all the advantages playing up could bring for things like Talent IDs. I guess this depends on if US Soccer keeps things BY. I assume they would. But even then you'd need to be playing up with your grade to be considered because you'd be competing with the younger half of the grqde above SY team.

Anonymous wrote:The best situation if you had a younger than the eligibility window but grade up player would be to roster them "up" on the correct grade level team for development.

Ideally your club would be aware that your kid could also play down. This way they'd have 2x the number of teams they could play with for tournamants. Also for things like Talent IDs they'd be pretty much guaranteed an invite at the lover level bevause they're playing and developing at a higher level than everyone else their age.

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Anonymous wrote:Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.

I think the club would like her to drop down but think they would allow her to stay up if I pushed.

I am leaning towards pushing to keep her up and not sure how that will go over.

There are alternative clubs but none as good as our current one.

Recruiting will start so need to make the decision and just live with it.

Will coaches overlook her if she is trapped when very few off grade kids will be out there now with the age group changes.

Is it better to develop or stand out

Does it all really matter in the first place or is this not really a problem either way

It only matters if your kid is younger than their grade level SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window team.

If they're older than the SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window likely from being held back they will have to play whatever grwade level team they're eligible for. What this means is in club soccer you cant gain any advantage over other players by degrading/regrading.

Play in the correct age bracket so the player isn’t trapped. This is a no-brainer and a big part of the reason for the changes. Then let her standout as a player and leader on the new team. Again, this is a no brainer. If the older team needs a guest player then step in when needed.

How would a player be "trapped" by playing up on their correct grade team? I don't think you understand what you write.

Try reading it again, and use your finger to go over each word.

“Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.“

"Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged."

It could go either way.

Dude, if the player would be playing with their proper grade, why would they be ‘trapped’? That would only occur if they were playing with the grade up. This isn’t rocket science.

A younger than the eligibility window of 8/1-7/31 player but a grade up in school (likely Aug/Sept birthday) wouldn't be "playing up" the would be playing with their grade. Which would make HS soccer at 9th grade work.

The player is a fall birthday currently playing in the BY system with players who are all a grade older (something very common right now). Hence ‘younger’ than teammates and they would be trapped if they played ‘up’ next year (instead of playing ‘down’ with their actual grade).

That’s literally what they wrote. I don’t understand how you can’t understand their own words.

Again, please read the word they wrote man. I’m not making this up-

‘Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?’

Please explain the above statement in your scenario.

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You love responding to your own posts.

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Anonymous wrote:Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.

I think the club would like her to drop down but think they would allow her to stay up if I pushed.

I am leaning towards pushing to keep her up and not sure how that will go over.

There are alternative clubs but none as good as our current one.

Recruiting will start so need to make the decision and just live with it.

Will coaches overlook her if she is trapped when very few off grade kids will be out there now with the age group changes.

Is it better to develop or stand out

Does it all really matter in the first place or is this not really a problem either way

It only matters if your kid is younger than their grade level SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window team.

If they're older than the SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window likely from being held back they will have to play whatever grwade level team they're eligible for. What this means is in club soccer you cant gain any advantage over other players by degrading/regrading.

Play in the correct age bracket so the player isn’t trapped. This is a no-brainer and a big part of the reason for the changes. Then let her standout as a player and leader on the new team. Again, this is a no brainer. If the older team needs a guest player then step in when needed.

How would a player be "trapped" by playing up on their correct grade team? I don't think you understand what you write.

Try reading it again, and use your finger to go over each word.

“Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.“

"Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged."

It could go either way.

Dude, if the player would be playing with their proper grade, why would they be ‘trapped’? That would only occur if they were playing with the grade up. This isn’t rocket science.

A younger than the eligibility window of 8/1-7/31 player but a grade up in school (likely Aug/Sept birthday) wouldn't be "playing up" the would be playing with their grade. Which would make HS soccer at 9th grade work.

The player is a fall birthday currently playing in the BY system with players who are all a grade older (something very common right now). Hence ‘younger’ than teammates and they would be trapped if they played ‘up’ next year (instead of playing ‘down’ with their actual grade).

That’s literally what they wrote. I don’t understand how you can’t understand their own words.

Again, please read the word they wrote man. I’m not making this up-

‘Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?’

Please explain the above statement in your scenario.

+1

You love responding to your own posts.

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Agree, the guy is a loon.

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Anonymous wrote:Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.

I think the club would like her to drop down but think they would allow her to stay up if I pushed.

I am leaning towards pushing to keep her up and not sure how that will go over.

There are alternative clubs but none as good as our current one.

Recruiting will start so need to make the decision and just live with it.

Will coaches overlook her if she is trapped when very few off grade kids will be out there now with the age group changes.

Is it better to develop or stand out

Does it all really matter in the first place or is this not really a problem either way

It only matters if your kid is younger than their grade level SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window team.

If they're older than the SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window likely from being held back they will have to play whatever grwade level team they're eligible for. What this means is in club soccer you cant gain any advantage over other players by degrading/regrading.

Play in the correct age bracket so the player isn’t trapped. This is a no-brainer and a big part of the reason for the changes. Then let her standout as a player and leader on the new team. Again, this is a no brainer. If the older team needs a guest player then step in when needed.

How would a player be "trapped" by playing up on their correct grade team? I don't think you understand what you write.

Try reading it again, and use your finger to go over each word.

“Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.“

"Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged."

It could go either way.

Dude, if the player would be playing with their proper grade, why would they be ‘trapped’? That would only occur if they were playing with the grade up. This isn’t rocket science.

A younger than the eligibility window of 8/1-7/31 player but a grade up in school (likely Aug/Sept birthday) wouldn't be "playing up" the would be playing with their grade. Which would make HS soccer at 9th grade work.

The player is a fall birthday currently playing in the BY system with players who are all a grade older (something very common right now). Hence ‘younger’ than teammates and they would be trapped if they played ‘up’ next year (instead of playing ‘down’ with their actual grade).

That’s literally what they wrote. I don’t understand how you can’t understand their own words.

Again, please read the word they wrote man. I’m not making this up-

‘Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?’

Please explain the above statement in your scenario.

+1

You love responding to your own posts.

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Anonymous wrote:Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.

I think the club would like her to drop down but think they would allow her to stay up if I pushed.

I am leaning towards pushing to keep her up and not sure how that will go over.

There are alternative clubs but none as good as our current one.

Recruiting will start so need to make the decision and just live with it.

Will coaches overlook her if she is trapped when very few off grade kids will be out there now with the age group changes.

Is it better to develop or stand out

Does it all really matter in the first place or is this not really a problem either way

It only matters if your kid is younger than their grade level SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window team.

If they're older than the SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window likely from being held back they will have to play whatever grwade level team they're eligible for. What this means is in club soccer you cant gain any advantage over other players by degrading/regrading.

Play in the correct age bracket so the player isn’t trapped. This is a no-brainer and a big part of the reason for the changes. Then let her standout as a player and leader on the new team. Again, this is a no brainer. If the older team needs a guest player then step in when needed.

How would a player be "trapped" by playing up on their correct grade team? I don't think you understand what you write.

Try reading it again, and use your finger to go over each word.

“Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.“

"Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged."

It could go either way.

Dude, if the player would be playing with their proper grade, why would they be ‘trapped’? That would only occur if they were playing with the grade up. This isn’t rocket science.

A younger than the eligibility window of 8/1-7/31 player but a grade up in school (likely Aug/Sept birthday) wouldn't be "playing up" the would be playing with their grade. Which would make HS soccer at 9th grade work.

The player is a fall birthday currently playing in the BY system with players who are all a grade older (something very common right now). Hence ‘younger’ than teammates and they would be trapped if they played ‘up’ next year (instead of playing ‘down’ with their actual grade).

That’s literally what they wrote. I don’t understand how you can’t understand their own words.

Again, please read the word they wrote man. I’m not making this up-

‘Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?’

Please explain the above statement in your scenario.

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Anonymous wrote:Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.

I think the club would like her to drop down but think they would allow her to stay up if I pushed.

I am leaning towards pushing to keep her up and not sure how that will go over.

There are alternative clubs but none as good as our current one.

Recruiting will start so need to make the decision and just live with it.

Will coaches overlook her if she is trapped when very few off grade kids will be out there now with the age group changes.

Is it better to develop or stand out

Does it all really matter in the first place or is this not really a problem either way

It only matters if your kid is younger than their grade level SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window team.

If they're older than the SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window likely from being held back they will have to play whatever grwade level team they're eligible for. What this means is in club soccer you cant gain any advantage over other players by degrading/regrading.

Play in the correct age bracket so the player isn’t trapped. This is a no-brainer and a big part of the reason for the changes. Then let her standout as a player and leader on the new team. Again, this is a no brainer. If the older team needs a guest player then step in when needed.

How would a player be "trapped" by playing up on their correct grade team? I don't think you understand what you write.

You should apologize for being rude as you were wrong and obnoxious about thinking you were correct.

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Anonymous wrote:Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.

I think the club would like her to drop down but think they would allow her to stay up if I pushed.

I am leaning towards pushing to keep her up and not sure how that will go over.

There are alternative clubs but none as good as our current one.

Recruiting will start so need to make the decision and just live with it.

Will coaches overlook her if she is trapped when very few off grade kids will be out there now with the age group changes.

Is it better to develop or stand out

Does it all really matter in the first place or is this not really a problem either way

It only matters if your kid is younger than their grade level SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window team.

If they're older than the SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window likely from being held back they will have to play whatever grwade level team they're eligible for. What this means is in club soccer you cant gain any advantage over other players by degrading/regrading.

Play in the correct age bracket so the player isn’t trapped. This is a no-brainer and a big part of the reason for the changes. Then let her standout as a player and leader on the new team. Again, this is a no brainer. If the older team needs a guest player then step in when needed.

How would a player be "trapped" by playing up on their correct grade team? I don't think you understand what you write.

Try reading it again, and use your finger to go over each word.

“Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.“

"Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged."

It could go either way.

Dude, if the player would be playing with their proper grade, why would they be ‘trapped’? That would only occur if they were playing with the grade up. This isn’t rocket science.

A younger than the eligibility window of 8/1-7/31 player but a grade up in school (likely Aug/Sept birthday) wouldn't be "playing up" the would be playing with their grade. Which would make HS soccer at 9th grade work.

The player is a fall birthday currently playing in the BY system with players who are all a grade older (something very common right now). Hence ‘younger’ than teammates and they would be trapped if they played ‘up’ next year (instead of playing ‘down’ with their actual grade).

That’s literally what they wrote. I don’t understand how you can’t understand their own words.

Again, please read the word they wrote man. I’m not making this up-

‘Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?’

Please explain the above statement in your scenario.

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Anonymous wrote:Need some advice. DD is a top player on a household name top team in ECNL and the only younger on her team.

Do I stay on current team and play against good players but be trapped?

Do I drop down to the grade level team and be their top player but not be as challenged.

I think the club would like her to drop down but think they would allow her to stay up if I pushed.

I am leaning towards pushing to keep her up and not sure how that will go over.

There are alternative clubs but none as good as our current one.

Recruiting will start so need to make the decision and just live with it.

Will coaches overlook her if she is trapped when very few off grade kids will be out there now with the age group changes.

Is it better to develop or stand out

Does it all really matter in the first place or is this not really a problem either way

It only matters if your kid is younger than their grade level SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window team.

If they're older than the SY 8/1-7/31 eligibility window likely from being held back they will have to play whatever grwade level team they're eligible for. What this means is in club soccer you cant gain any advantage over other players by degrading/regrading.

Play in the correct age bracket so the player isn’t trapped. This is a no-brainer and a big part of the reason for the changes. Then let her standout as a player and leader on the new team. Again, this is a no brainer. If the older team needs a guest player then step in when needed.

How would a player be "trapped" by playing up on their correct grade team? I don't think you understand what you write.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to mention the first two tiers of boys college recruiting are MLS Club academies then MLS Next teams
Both are BY and school grades are not on anyone's radar

Its because with BY "trapped" players are playing up not down.

Playing up means playing in an older age group
Trapped players today hardly ever play up since they are the youngest in their age group

Yeah, for the vast majority of fall/q4 players they will actually be playing with kids in their own grade for once in their playing careers. The focus on a tiny number of August kids who might play with kids a grade lower than them is purely caused by on one Mr Delusional August Guy.

It will be interesting to see how these players do and how they’ll adapt. Many will be put into leadership positions they don’t have prior experience with having always been the youngest.

My Q4 player on a MLS Next team has one kid from his school on his team and they're in different grades

Why people keeping talking about being friends in the same grade when the players go to all different schools is ludicrously silly

I don't mean playing with kids from their school, I mean Q4s getting to play with kids their age or younger instead of being the youngest... Everyone knows at these big clubs most of the kids are coming from different schools. I don't see anyone talking about playing with friends from school here (at least within the last 20 or so pages). Though, it is US Soccer's theory that, for the very small percentage that can/will do that, it will keep them invested in soccer longer than the BY cohorts.

It's for the ulittles - for them to all be on grade.

It also settles 80% of trapped player issues.

It was NOT done to fix RAE, as it does not, just shifts the window.

This was discussed unto death in the original 1000 page opus thread. You may not agree with it, but it is a done deal.

100% reguarding "on grade" exactly what people have been saying for over a year.

Now we have crazy crazytown trying to change SY (School Year) to SY (Seasonal Year) so after they get what they want (changing from BY to SY) they can move the goalposts again trying to say grade in school isnt important. When in reality is is very important and what was used to justify the change from BY to SY (school year) in the first place.

So dishonest.

School years are dates set by state/school district. So soccer had to create a compromise school year at the national level. Hence 8/1 to 7/31. Always been dates, this grades thing is just someone constantly throwing a dead cat on the table to take the oxygen out of the room.

What is your agenda? You sit on this thread all day long

Yeah, you figured that guy out! He has the evil agenda of providing accurate and correct information on an online discussion board. Dun dun dun! You cracked the case Sherlock!

You sound like you have issues.

This whole thread has issues. Who gives a sh*t about the age shift? It ain’t the kids…

The only people who should give a shit are the Aug kids who are really young for their grade. Throws a wrench in things but it’s not the end of the world. Certainly not worth pages and pages of discussion.

Its worth understanding what being a young Aug or even Sept birthday means. If your kid is good and shows talent It's better for them to roster on the grade up team so things dont get weird when its time for college recruiting. Players like this can and likely will guest with the grade down team at tournamants. I could also see them being added to the younger group for things like Talent IDs. It would be ironic if young Aug/Sept birthdays as long as they were rostered on a team thats a grade up would get more opportunities because they could play on grade down teams for special events.

I could see them playing on age, like clubs said that is how they are going to roster kids. On age. Oldest is a gift not to be thrown away to advantage some guy's Sept daughter who keeps trying to reverse engineer the rules to help his DD at the expense of others.

What are you talking about?

Time to take a step back.

Responding to the misinformation campaign to try to shame kids to play up when it isn't even an option.

The sooner you realize that you are the misinformation campaign the better.